It’s kind of sad to watch our foreign policy elite flail around impotently, lecturing Russia about international rules, international institutions, and respect for sovereignty. Russia, as you might remember, refused to vote for any authorization to use military force in Iraq. Now they get treated to gems like this from Condi ‘Mushroom Cloud’ Rice:
However, as U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice arrived at Bush’s ranch at 5:30 a.m. Saturday to brief the president on negotiations in Tbilisi, Georgia, she told reporters Russia faces a choice “to act in a 21st-century way, [to] fully integrate into the international institutions.
“I think it’s very much worthwhile to have given Russia that chance,” Rice said. “Now I think the behavior recently suggests that perhaps Russia has not taken that route … or that they would like to have it both ways — that is, that you behave in a 1968 way toward your neighbors by invading them and, at the same time, you continue to integrate into the political and diplomatic and economic and security structures of the international community. And I think the fact is you can’t have it both ways.”
One wonders whether Rice is truly deaf to irony.
“[The Russians] have a kind of imperial hangover,” said Fred Starr, a professor at the Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University. “They haven’t adjusted to post-Soviet reality.”
I don’t think Fred Starr has adjusted to post-Iraq War reality. But at least he is on-message, unlike this envoy:
In Georgia, popular anger against Russia remains high, and Saakashvili has yet to be called to account for the decision to assault Tskhinvali, a small city in which thousands of civilians were forced into their cellars by shelling.
Russian officials say 2,000 people died in Tskhinvali. That figure has been described as inflated by human rights groups. But there unquestionably was a large toll of civilian deaths and injuries, which has outraged Russia and shocked Georgia’s Western allies.
“It’s deplorable, simply deplorable, to fire on civilians like that, and illegal,” said Matthew Bryza, the U.S. special envoy to the region, in an interview. “It’s horrible.”
Regardless of who started this conflict, Russia is the stronger of the two, and the disputed regions are made up of ethnic Russians. The simplest way to resolve this issue is for Georgia to give up on ever regaining control over South Ossetia and Abkhazia. They did not control them before and they will not emerge from a lost war with greater control than they enjoyed before the conflict. However, one lesson we did learn from Germany’s annexation of the Sudetanland in 1938 is that the peaceful resolution of an ethnic-fueled border dispute can be a mere precursor for more imperial ambitions. Georgia’s territorial integrity and political independence from Russia is worth defending, and the best way to defend it is through negotiation. If Georgia is going to give a nod to reality, they’ll realize that South Ossetia and Abkhazia are gone. Formally acknowledging that fact may be deeply humiliating, but it is also one card they can play that Russia would actually value.
It is now clear that Russia opposes the integration of Georgia into NATO so strongly that they are willing to use military force to prevent it. But the pretext for military force is completely dependent on South Ossetia and Abkhazia remaining disputed territories within Georgia. What Georgia should do is to trade their claim to South Ossetia and Abkhazia for Russian acceptance of stepped up and semi-formalized security arrangements from the West to protect their remaining territory. Basically, Georgia would be saying that they recognize Russia’s military might and advantage but that in return for that acknowledgment they want Russia to recognize the legitimacy of the rest of Georgia and their right to seek out whatever allies they choose to protect their sovereignty.
Or, if we are going to use the favored language of the neo-cons (Munich, never again), it would be like trading the Sudetanland for German acknowledgment that the rest of Czech territory in inviolable, Western promises to protect Czechoslovakia from further territorial encroachment, and stepped up military aid to Czechoslovakia. This analogy is not perfect because the Munich capitulation stripped Prague of its natural and entrenched defenses against invasion. But Russia is not Nazi Germany, and they should be more responsive to honest, tough-nosed diplomacy and negotiation.
Whether that position is naive or not, it is a better deal for Georgia than they will get by refusing to acknowledge military reality and nursing a delusional hope of ever exercising dominion over South Ossetia and Abkhazia. It shows Russia respect but also lays down a marker. It recognizes our own weakness without capitulating to Russian force.
If we let Georgian pride interfere, the region will be a permanent flash-point. The West overplayed their hand in Kosovo and Georgia and they need to negotiate for what they have some reasonable expectation of achieving. This solution, over the long-term, will make Georgia a more secure nation. After all, Russia could annex Georgia altogether in less than a week if they wanted to. The goal should be to change that vulnerability over time by raising the stakes (in trade, public relations, and military cost) of any Russian annexation of Georgia. For now, we are dealing from a position of profound weakness. Smart diplomacy, including painful tradeoffs, is the best route to securing Georgia’s independence.
The Georgians should shut up and settle for Finlandization. It has worked well for Finland. As to the US, it has no business in that part of the world, and the sooner we get out, the safer the world will be. The United States has worn out its welcome.
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The foreign policy of the EU and US combined towards Georgia, the Caucasus and Caspian Sea basin. The importance of the Turkey-Israel-Georgia-Azerbaijan alliance as seen by Israel’s participation in the BTC pipeline and sending arms and contractors to mirror Georgia’s army to the IDF.
Putin’s position came as no surprise as fruitful dialogue with the West was neglected from both sides. Russia is economically dependent on sales of gas and oil to Europe and the world.
Georgia’s attack on S Ossetia and NATO’s dilemma.
BALKANS AND KOSOVO’S INDEPENDENCE
Failed EU policy on the Balkans and Clinton’s take on Serbia and Bosnia. Clinton suffered from an aggressive Republican majority in Congress and ruined his own credibility as president.
Russia is now taking advantage of Kosovo’s independence and recognition by the West.
HISTORIC PERSPECTIVE
Excellent analysis placing today’s acts in historic perspective and giving food to thought. A joy to read! Victory in World War II and the Berlin Airlift were based on major accomplishments of American superiority in planning and logistics. This contrasts sharply with the bungled invasion of Iraq with aftermath and the impotent reaction to Russia’s interference in Georgia with Bush’s airlift interfering with a planned vacation in Texas. Roosevelt made the US loved and admired in the rest of the world, Bush and Neocons have become outcasts relying solely on superior military power, fear and cost of innocent lives.
My diary – McCain’s Ties with Lobbyist Scheunemann
British General Sir Mike Jackson’s take on US-Russian confrontation:
Georgia: Let’s not start World War III
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."
Give them the provinces. Screw the Munich-Chamberlain freakout. You laid out good reasons the provinces should be with Russia. We strongly suspect Russia has Imperialist ambitions anyway since they had an empire 15 short yrs ago. Take away any justification to occupy the rest of Georgia. Make them do it outside international law like Bush did. Georgia has broken the law with the shelling of Tskhinvali. Losing South Ossetia and Abkhazia is just acknowledging that reality.
Reread that last paragraph. Sentence by sentence;
The region will ALWAYS be a ‘flash point’.
The ‘west’ overplayed its hand in IRAQ, not in Kosovo or Georgia. Iraq showed that the projected military might of the US was limited in effectiveness. War = destruction in 99% of the cases.
Georgia will NEVER be a ‘secure nation’, at least in any near future. Russia can invade it at any time it wants, for any reason it wants, and there won’t be any western response (at least a response that can ‘hurt’ Russia.
Yes, Russia can annex Georgia anytime it wants….forever.
There are no ‘stakes’ that can be raised that would prevent the above if the Russians feel it is in their National interests.
Yep.. ‘profound weakness’ is the perfect phrase.
Georgia will NEVER have what can be considered TRUE ‘independence’. It will always be a Russian vassal state, which was the whole point Russia was making.
It never ceases to amaze me how Americans insist on failing to look at things from any position except their own. If the US was insistent on invading Mexico there is NOTHING anybody else could do to prevent it, economic or otherwise. America considers Mexico ‘ours’ in a geo political sense. No ‘negotiation’ will EVER change that. Russia considers Georgia the same way. Russia has not changed their position on that in 500 hundred years.
They certainly won’t change their position on that in the next 20.
It’s far beyond ‘naive’ to think otherwise. It’s entering neo-con world, where only theory rules, and reality has no place to live.
nalbar
BTW,
If by ‘the west overplayed its hand in Georgia’ you mean ‘sharpen a knife to a fine point and prick Russia’s underbelly with that knife’, then I agree.
You would think Georgia would know that if you prick the bear enough, eventually he will wake up angry. How stupid are they?
nalbar
Saakashvili was America’s man in the Caucasus. He came to America and was funded the State Department through the “Freedom Support Act.” Once in office he build up the military for no other reason than to retake the two breakaway provinces that seceded from Georgia the same time that Georgia seceded from the old USSR.
There was no other reason for the U.S. to finance the buildup. A report from Moldova last November said that the U.S. was even paying the Georgian troops salaries. Nice to know that the flattening of Tskhinvali was done entirely on our dime, eh? And Saakashvili, you’ve just been April Glaspied.
Well, there was another reason for the U.S. to finance this. That would be to cause exactly what just happened. This bit of adventurism has started our next Cold War. More money for the MIComplex, more paranoia, more control of civilians by the military.
The death of irony is just a measurement of the control of the media by the MIC. I don’t even laugh at Bush’s pledge of keeping Georgia’s sovereign territory. Five days is too long for Russia to occupy parts of Georgia, five years isn’t long enough for the U.S. to occupy Iraq and Afghanistan.
Everything’s A-OK for the fascists. The TV is littered with people who can lie with straight faces, and they lie to people who can’t or won’t figure out the lies.
Great post Bob.
The adventurism of American policy is completely locked into our discourse. Every single POTUS is locked into continuing the mistakes of previous administrations.
We are ruled by retards.
nalbar
In the new Great Game of Oil played out on Central Asia’s chessboard – a game that started in December 2001, it’s the last move.
How do you spell CHECKMATE? thought you could.
to BushCheneyRice, their eyes wide shut, Russia has just said
CHECKMATE
we should have avoided going into Afghanistan and Iraq. But it was all about oil. The Russians weren’t fooled. To take out evil AQ and OBL, the U.S. could have used special ops, as Israel does.
Next up, the world’s oil order through pricing will now be changed.
[hint: away from the US dollar and short-term contracts. Russia and OPEC controls more than 85% of the world’s oil reserves, yet oil pricing is controlled in the West through its futures exchange.]
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Just minutes ago in another televised interview, Holbrooke lays out the claim that Russian backed Ossetian militias had provoked Georgia, Saakashvili had no other option than protect the Georgian villages from etnic cleansing. [By mortar and artillery bombardement of capital Tskhinvali.] Conveniently Holbrooke explains the scenario followed by Russia’s Putin as he had written in his book and interviews more than a year ago. Putin hates Saakashvili, the West’s great democratic leader, and wants to overthrow his government. Sounds quite similar to discussions about one great democracy (Israel) in the Middle East on whose behalve the US invaded and occupied Iraq. I wonder what happened to the Russian peacekeepers stationed in South Ossetia when Georgia started the attack.
Sorry BooMan, Holbrooke has no credibilty and is just another war hawk with different feathers.
Washington Post by Richard Holbrooke, Nov. 27, 2006
“Much is at stake: Putin’s long-term strategic goal is to create a sphere of Russian dominance and hegemony in the vast area the Soviet Union and the czars once ruled. If he succeeds in bringing down the most independent and pro-Western leader in the former Soviet space outside the Baltics, he will have gone a long way toward his goal. Also at stake: President Bush’s “freedom agenda,” stability in the Caucasus and the European Union’s attitude toward a small European country on the edge of the world’s most volatile region.”
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."
Well, the whole thing was so predictable for people like Holbrooke that he could write it down in a book a year ago.
If I didn’t feel like crap today I’d be more expansive, but I feel like crap. This whole operation was planned and paid for by the U.S. So Holbrooke could predict it? He probably helped draw up the blueprints.
Georgians are some of the most annoyingly nationalistic people I have ever had the chance to encounter over the internet. It truly is unreal sometimes.
That said, the only reason WWII actually did stop those questions is because of the massive people movements, Germans and poles shifted around, Poland shifted west so there were less ethnic Russians etc. Expulsion and heavy Franco-ization in Alsance Lorraine. That particular part of the peace is forgotten.