Have you ever wondered whether Pat Robertson is a genuine believer in Christianity or just a tool of Wall Street investment bankers and anti-communist corporate boards?:
You know, I don’t know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we’re trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It’s a whole lot cheaper than starting a war. And I don’t think any oil shipments will stop. But this man is a terrific danger and the United … This is in our sphere of influence, so we can’t let this happen. We have the Monroe Doctrine, we have other doctrines that we have announced. And without question, this is a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us very badly. We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don’t need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It’s a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.
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I have.
That rhetoric doesn’t have an iota of Christian thinking associated with it. But Allen Dulles probably would have approved.
Unforutnately, lots of violence has been perpetrated in the name of religion throughout the course of history. But only for “good” reasons. It would be nice to think that religion would seek a better way.
I am, however, curious about Robertson’s support for a “popular coup.” I suspect that wouldn’t apply here at home.
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Boo you hit the nail on the head with the “corporate” stuff. Pat Robertson invested his followers money and financially benefited from Charles Taylor’s murderous reign in Liberia and his compadre, Foday Sankoh, head of the RUF.
Let me connect the dots – Pat Robertson made financial gain from war crimes. Not “war crimes” but War Crimes, as in being prosecuted by the United Nations war crimes.
I’ve been to VA Beach and trust me, the kool-aid is flowin’ like a mighty river down there.
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Had to wonder about Pat’s professed Christianity when he prayed and encouraged his followers to pray for openings on the Supreme Court. To my knowledge, Jesus wasn’t a terribly political fellow, can’t seem to find any instance of him leading anyone in prayer to overthrow Caesar. Wouldn’t an actual Christian pray to change hearts, not justices?
Robertson seems to be drinking some strange kool-aide(Jim Beam maybe) given his murderous bent. He’s praying again for another justice to kick the bucket so they can make sure they really have the court stacked..add Chavez to his list and I’d start to wonder why this nut job is allowed on the national tv to promote this kind of shit..wouldn’t that be terrorist lingo? Calling for people to die or be assassinated-ok-Janet’s nipple-not ok and civilization as we know it ended that day right cause of an almost glimpse of a nipple..Priorities, Priorities.
This kind of thing gives me a headache — a heartache, too.
As an ex-Christian I haven’t done a lot of bible-readin’ lately, so maybe this comes from livin’ down here in bible-totin’, bible-quotin’ east TN, but the first thing that came to my mind on readin’ this was Matthew 7:1-5:
“Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull the mote out of thine eye; and behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast the mote out of thy brother’s eye.”
“He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword” (Matthew 26:52) would also seem to be apt…
Interesting that I quoted part of that scripture earlier today in my piece on the Progressive Policy Institute.
Imagine the reaction should anyone dare express the same sentiment toward Robertson himself.
I’d offer to be the first, but I don’t need Homeland Security at my doorstep. Suffice it to say, I do believe that America would be a much better place if the leaders of the religious right went to Hell now, rather than later. It’s not as if the timing will make any difference in how surprised they’ll be to see who they’ve been serving all along.
Contrary to what Robertson says, there is no popular opposition to Chavez in Venezuela. The coup failed precisely because the people blocked it. He is overwhelmingly popular. Only the traditional predator classes — rich landowners and the church — oppose him. As usual, the predators are a small minority and traditional allies of the US.
For Pat Robertson and the religious right, of course, the poor aren’t really people when they stand in the way of their own mugging.
What the US really fears in Venezuela is a successful socialist state. We can get the oil, one way or another, but the current regime cannot survive the appearance of a viable alternative to predatory capitalism. If Chavez uses the nation’s resources to improve the lot of the poor there, who knows but that the American poor might demand the same. The energy and mineral companies that rely on the all-you-can-eat buffet of free BLM land would have a lot to fear.
If Chavez was the dictator the neo-cons would have you believe he is, the bourgeois and ecclesiastical predators who are Mr. Robertson’s darlings would have long since been liquidated and silenced. That they can spew their self-serving, treasonous crap without interference from Chavez is testament to his dedication to civil liberties. Would that dissidents in Iraq had such privileges!
As usual not only is Robertson calling for murder-most unchristian but a liar as well(nothing new there)..Chavez is not a dictator as you’ve mentioned he was elected overwhelmingly. Not selected nor was the vote rigged.
http://tinyurl.com/82dvk Common Dreams article by a woman from Code Pink Ladies on Chavez and what she found when she went to Venezuela. Sounds pretty good to me what he is doing except of course that gasp gasp he seems to be promoting socialism. You know free health care for all, educations, etc etc all those evil things that socialism promotes.
If anyone is a menace it’s fuckers like Robertson-who people call a man of god-(gag me with a crucifix) who can actually call for the assassination of a leader of another country and no one in the press seems to give a shit.
Robertson’s agenda has been so transparently obvious for at least the past 25 years that I have never had to wonder about that for a moment . . . and I’ll bet you haven’t, either. 😉
He favors a woman’s right to have an abortion, too — but only as long as she’s Chinese.
Another shining example from the Christain Right/Coalition. They cannot stand the thought of a cluster of cells being aborted but damn the torpedos full speed ahead on assinations for oil(which he mentioned several times in his answers)blood for oil in Iraq and bombs away in anyplace the deems a threat? Man, these people are just plain fucking crazy!
They need to get robertson on rico charges the way he exhorts money from ppl. he is not a christian!!!!!!!!! he is someone who is devious and sneaky and a rumor spreader.
“Thou Shalt not kill.” – Exodus 20:13 – The Sixth Commandment
Headline should read:
Pat Robertson publicly advocates rejection of The Ten Commandments.
I am so incensed by this I can hardly type.
As far as Latin America goes it’s the same old shit as before, as in Allen Dulles time, get rid of whoever doesn’t support the Banana Corps. (Now Oil Corps.)
For the definitive expose’ on those times, and to recognize the pattern from then to now see;
Paperback: Great Fear in Latin America
Author: John Gerassi
Publisher: MacMillan Publishing Company (March, 1965)
ISBN: 0020734107
What really amazes me is how blatant the loonies on the right have become. Assassination? And a twin threat of commies and Muslims… what next???
I hesitate to conjecture on outer limits as to how far they will go. So far it’s just words, but the problem is eventually some limbo-loonie will resort to violence.
I happened to hear Rush Limbaugh today listing the MSM TV networks, Cindy Sheehan, the left, the Democrats, etc, etc, as all being “success stories” for Osama BL and his terrorist network —- as far as I’m concerned, a new definition for insanity for Rush.
However, I think this new level of rabidity is working to our advantage in that this blatant insanity is becoming more obvious to independents and also some well-meaning Republicans -(must be those who only partook of the shot glass of kool-aid vs. the tumbler.)
If “god” is really with Pat then he ought to be willing to go mano a mano with Hugo. I’ve no doubt Hugo would be more than willing to take him on.
I haven’t been over to “the big city” in a while, but I happened to go over tonight and saw the following diary headline:
“Radical Cleric Issues Fatwa to Kill the President”
ROTFLMAO, after I clicked the diary and saw it was for the Robertson/Chavez story…
It’s too much fun to beat him up.
I caught him during the 1988 GOP convention, the “Welcome Pat” event outside his hotel. Planted myself 5 feet from his mike, shouted “GO BACK TO SOUTH AFRICA, PAT.” The black NOPD officer in charge enjoyed my shtick, refused to arrest me. Roberson’s goon swung on me 8 times, but I easily rolled away from his punches, continued to heckle, loud enough to be picked up by his mike.
Robertson abandoned the field, retreated to the Hotel. I suggested to my friends it was time to split. They dithered as I crossed the street.
At this point, a fresh squad of cops, led by a white Captain arrived, arrested my associates. I to get nasty to get them out of jail.
A question I have been wondering about for sometime. Exactly which flavor of “Christianity” does Pat Robertson say he believes in? Is he a Baptist, Methodist, or some other denomination??
You can understand my confusion, because like many others I’m sure, I have a hard time recognizing a particularly Christian thread in much of what he has to say.
I guess God in his infinite wisdom ordained that folks who came to live in North America, (after we ran off or killed the original native population), were to be the ones allowed to take the vast majority of the world’s resources as their own. Mr. Robertson no doubt is one of his chosen stewards, and can justify his personal excesses as God’s will. He must “get a pass” on commandment #6?
If we have to invade a country, overthrow a President, or what the hell, just assassinate them, it’s just all part of the divine plan of the almighty.
Since I pretty much checked out of organized religion at the ripe old age of thirteen, it has been good old-time God-fearin folk like our Mr. Robertson that confirm the wisdom of my adolescent action.
business ties with some dictator named Taylor? Robinson is a typical hypocrite. He preaches one thing from the pulpit, but he does whatever he wants away from it.
This should be publicized. Just because Chavez want his country to control it’s assets (oil). BushCO want to control all petroleum reserves and have an empire. Robinson is a sycophant to BushCO aspirations.
Drudge must read BooMan! He’s got the headline up at the top of his page:
“Pat Robertson Calls For Assassination Of Venezuelan President”
and it’s a headline in today’s Charlotte Observer. Ha!
I posted a journal on Dailykos about this subject. Since you beat me to it, I’ll just put it here.
Robertson’s rantings
by McGirk SF [Subscribe] [Edit Diary]
Tue Aug 23rd, 2005 at 01:01:16 PDT
Faux preacher Pat Robinson never fails to blow my mind. Around the time that Iraq war started, there was turmoil going on in Liberia. I’m not farmiliar with all the details, but I do recall that the presedent of Liberia was a guy named Charlse Taylor. There was major unrest in his country, and the U.N. was calling for him to step down, as was Faux President Bush. I had been flipping channels when I heard Robinson say “HOW DARE BUSH ORDER THE PRESIDENT OF A SOVERIGN NATION STEP DOWN! WHO DOSE HE THINK HE IS?”
I was shocked, initialy thinking Robertson may have actully found God. Of course, he was talking about Taylor, and not Hussein. It turns out that Robertson, a multi-millionare, had a sweetheart gold mining operation going in Liberia, which he had signed with Taylor, that would be nullified if Taylor was forced from power, and the gold mine would be socialized for the citizens of Liberia instead. Which brings me to his latest foriegn policy suggestion.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200508220006
McGirk SF’s diary :: ::
Looks like Pat no longer cares about respecting soverign nations rights. I wonder what oil deals or other investments Robinson had that were voided by Chaves, a man who actully cares for his country’s citizens.
”You know, I don’t know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we’re trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It’s a whole lot cheaper than starting a war. And I don’t think any oil shipments will stop. But this man is a terrific danger and the United … This is in our sphere of influence, so we can’t let this happen. We have the Monroe Doctrine, we have other doctrines that we have announced. And without question, this is a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us very badly. We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don’t need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It’s a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.”
I’ll bet Pat has got some kind of financial stake in Venezuela, but don’t know for sure. For that matter, I’ll bet Jesus had some kind of opinion on gays, for instance, but don’t know for sure. There is one a part in the Bible that dose make it perfectly clear, beyond a shadow of a doubt, what Jesus thinks of Robertson.
What Would Jesus Do?
Jesus would walk into Robertson’s church, grab him by the scruff of his neck and say,”Get your money grubbing ass out of my Father’s house, bitch.”, drag him down the aslie, throw his ass in the street, and take a sledgehapper to his limo. The Bible is perfectly clear on that one.
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You must tell him about the ES&S contract with SAIC (.pdf) to change the democratic outcome of elections!
If the machines would have done the job, Chavez would have been “fixed” out of power and was second option of assassination not necessary. Someone at the religious wheel of ES&S should be held accountable and be fired, or at least have all gratifications for path to heaven taken away.
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