Kid Oakland calls for unity.
It’s a worthy ambition. But I think it is illusory. The reason? Our representatives have no unity. What can Joe Biden have to say to voters of color or single women, when he votes for the bankruptcy bill? What can the gay community have to say to Representative Gene Taylor? How can pro-choice people make common strategy with Ben Nelson? How can environmentalists stand together with Senator Max Baucus?
Peter Daou diagnosed the problem correctly.
It would seem reasonable to conclude, then, that the best strategy for the progressive netroots is to go after the media and Democratic Party leaders and spend less time and energy attacking the Bush administration. If the netroots alone can’t change the political landscape without the participation of the media and Democratic establishment, then there’s no point wasting precious online space blasting away at Republicans while the other sides of the triangle stand idly by. Indeed, blog powerhouses like Kos and Josh Marshall have taken an aggressive stance toward Democratic politicians they see as selling out core Democratic Party principles. Kos’s willingness to attack the DLC is mocked on the right, but it is precisely the right’s fear that Kos will “close the triangle” that causes them to protest so loudly. Similarly, when Atrios, Digby, Oliver Willis, and so many other progressive bloggers attack the media, they are leveraging whatever power they have to compel the media to assume a role as the third side of their triangle.
As I told Peter, the irony of his article is that it is now Kos that is being attacked for selling out core Democratic Party principles. Back to Kid Oakland:
Did attacking the left and embracing the right help us define a cohesive approach to Democratic unity against Roberts? I think not.
Are Peter and Kid’s analyses compatible, or mutually exclusive? Where does Kos fit into this tapestry?
All three are looking to be effective. To be effective you have to be heard. It’s not enough to be heard by the mainstream media; the MSM has to transmit the message to the larger public. The right-wing blogs have two advantages. Right-wing personalities dominate talk radio and cable news. And Republican politicians stay unified and on message. This creates the triangle that Daou speaks of, and it enables the right to marginalize progressives… to Michael Moore us. Kos is so afraid of being Michael Moored that he tamped down all talk of voter fraud, disassociated himself from hippies, and purged conspiracy theorists. In my opinion, he is surrendering without a fight and undermining his own raison d’être.
But at the same time he has carved a coherent strategy. The strategy is to run the strongest candidates regardless of their positions on the issues. If Casey has the organization, money, and name recognition to beat Santorum, run him ahead of someone who doesn’t. The logic is that Casey’s vote for Reid is more important than Casey’s votes on reproductive rights. And that might be true. For me, it’s more than Casey’s vote for Reid. It’s the critical importance of getting subpoena power in at least one house of Congress.
The problem with this strategy is at least twofold. First, it runs dangerously close to ‘not standing for anything’, even though the idea is the best way to protect our rights is to gain a majority. Second, the strategy, by its very nature, is willing to sacrifice on the issues (short-term) in the interest of a greater good (down the road). And this is a prescription for serious infighting, as we have all witnessed.
Which leads me back to Daou. Daou suggests that the best way to be effective is not to prattle on endlessly about Bush’s outrages, but to attack the right-wing of the Democratic Party and force them to stick up for our issues…to attack the lazy media and make them cover Bush’s outrages…to close the left-wing triangle.
He uses Kos’s attacks on the DLC as an example of how this can be done properly (he might have added Armando’s relentless attacks on David Brooks). Yet, here is Kid Oakland attacking Kos for engaging in some ostensibly DLC-like behavior. Does this all make sense?
Yes, it does. It may be confusing, and it may lead some into conspiratorial paroxysms…but it is more a confluence of interests. For both Kos and the DLC, the goal is a new ruling majority. The DLC wants to elect moderates and centrists because they are ultimately hoping to make the Democratic Party into a second pro-business, pro-enormous defense budget party. Kos wants to elect moderates and centrists because they are…well…electable. At least, that is the theory; and it has a lot of merit in certain states and districts. So, Markos can simultaneously attack the DLC on the issues while advocating a strategy that looks startlingly similar to the one advocated by the DLC.
So, where does unity come into this? My answer? It doesn’t. The attempt to be a big tent party is alienating to progressives. The attempt to make the party adhere to core progressive values is alienating to moderates and culture-war voters. The only thing we can still unite around is the odious and monstrous Bush administration. We are only united in opposition. As Bush’s numbers fall, the throngs under the big tent grow and grow. All that is required is that we join together to say ‘NO’. And that is where Daou’s analysis remains solid. We are effective when we are calling for the media and the centrists to say ‘NO’ to this administration. We need to punish those that refuse to say ‘NO’. And since we keep seeing our centrists sell us out, this is not a call for unity, but a call for internecine warfare.
Can progressives seize control of the Party so that we no longer have Schumer (an alleged progressive) recruiting people like Casey? Yes, but only if we are willing to pay for it. When Rahm Immanuel or Chuck Schumer go looking for candidates they look for candidates that can self-finance or who have the connections to raise lots of money. But that, too often, gives us candidates that don’t represent progressive values. It leads to candidates that are either beholden to large contributors or who have the wrong life experiences to stick up for the little guy. If we want to be effective we not only need to close Daou’s triangle, we have to have a carrot (money) and a stick (primary challengers). Until we can accomplish all three of these things, we are stuck waging a battle not only against the GOP, but for the soul of the Democratic Party.
dividing a conquering themselves?
Can progressives seize control of the Party so that we no longer have Schumer (an alleged progressive) recruiting people like Casey? Yes, but only if we are willing to pay for it.
advocating for challenging Casey with own candidate (announced or unannounced)?
http://www.chuck2006.com/
I can get behind this. I live in MD and have given some thought to volunteering some time as his campaign progresses.
I will be donating this evening and will donate more in the future as the campaign moves forward.
Yay! (I like Chuck.)
There are 2 good reasons that the left needs to challenge all of those that are “right wing Dems” (IMHO).
The second reason is why you will almost never see a GOP candidate go unchallenged in primaries. It gives their candidates free air time on the news to get their message out before the elections have even started.
In our case it puts a bit of pressure on Dems to respond to OUR ISSUES regardless of whether or not a truly left leaning candidate wins the primaries. And if they should happen to win? Well, they have a recognizable face for the voters already.
It costs more overall… But it pays off big time come elections.
And this comes directly from supporting candidates that don’t back our issues. The Religious Right took control of the GOP first by proving that they could make or break a candidate and then by breaking those that refused to deal with them. If we want a unified front, we have to do the same.
Hackett seems to have disproved this by almost winning in a deep-red district that he should have had no chance at all in. There appears to be no reason to run someone who’s not a progressive in any district or state. To win, Democrats simply have to run progressives who aren’t afraid to be progressives, and inspire people to vote for a candidate rather than against a candidate.
Remember: in an election between a Republican and a Republican, the Republican always wins.
We want people to vote for a candidate because it blunts negative campaigning. If the Republicans have a candidate that their guys are voting for and our guys are voting against, they can win by suppressing turnout. Which appears to be the primary effect of a negative campaign. The people voting for their candidate still do, the people voting against him get turned off of the entire process.
The attempt to be a big tent party is not alienating to progressives. What is alienating is being told “Your issues don’t matter. Maybe we’ll get to them after we win. If you’re good.” Because we’ve been told this for decades, in some form or another, and guess what hasn’t happened? When the religious right got tired of being told this and decided to do something about it, they took total control of the government over a period of twenty to thirty years. (Depending on how you measure their rise) Meanwhile, “our” representatives are still telling us to “be good”.
Making the party adhere to core progressive values (such as, say, a commitment to supporting human rights. How sad that that’s considered a core progressive value, and not a minimum requirement for involvement in our political system) is not necessarily alienating to moderates. Many hold progressive stances on many issues – abortion, gay marriage, taxation, the role of government among them. The merely don’t self-identify as progressive because of decades of being told that liberals and socialists are bad. Thus, rather than abandoning our issues in the attempt to chase the centre as it creeps rightwards, we must find ways to talk about them that don’t scare off moderates. For example, talking about reproductive choice and emphasizing the need to reduce the number of abortions by eliminating unwanted pregnancies.
I’d say that culture-war voters are already lost to the left, unless we lose ourselves. I’m not talking about moderates here, I’m talking about people who self-id as being fighters on the front lines of the culture war. These people have made a deep, personal commitment to supporting and perpetuating inequality, bigotry, misogyny, war, and hatred. We can’t get their vote, nor should we want to get their vote.
Awesome, awesome, awesome post. I regret that I have but a single 4 to give you.
Thanks. I guess I, as a Canadian, don’t see where all this desperate strategizing and backpedalling is coming from. Every piece of information I’ve seen from south of the border – from polls to election results to anecdotal reports – says that if the Democrats actually ran progressive candidates that talked about progressive issues, they’d win. Full stop. Instead, they keep running borderline Republican candidates, and keep losing.
Speaking as someone situated just north of another border quite to the south of you, I hear you loud and clear. Some days it’s enough to make me reach for my tin-foil hat collection but then I remember: Never attribute to malice that which simple stupidity and stubbornness can explain. :p
Yes! The problem with Party Unity in the current political climate is; “What do we unify around?”
Do we come together in support of fundamental principles that we will not compromise on? Or do we unify behind the plan to do whatever it takes to oust the Repubs from power, (even if it means caving in on core principles like abortion rights, etc.)?
Is there any middle ground between these 2 approaches to unity? Is it possible to synchronize both into one overarching unifying strategy?
Frankly, given the current crop of Dems, I think not. And as to the above choices, i.e. “stand on principle” vs. “win at any cost”, I know where I stand.
There’s a time and place for compromise, but when it becomes standard operating procedure it becomes capitulation. Our Dems have been doing that for too long already, and as long as we keep electing the appeasers and self-absorbed, the party will keep getting weaker and weaker. IMHO!
How do you compromise with someone who things you are not entitled to the civil and human rights and equal protections under the law that every other American enjoys?
How do you compromise with someone who claims you have no right over your own body?
How do you compromise with someone who claims that your poverty means you’re a bad person?
How do you compromise with someone who claims that some people are more equal than others?
How do you compromise with someone who believes it’s okay for our government to torture people, who believes that the government should be able to lock you up without charges for a duration of forever, who believes that unless you’re rich you don’t deserve the rights of bankruptcy….
This is what we’re running up against. We’re trying to build unity in a party that is comprised, to a large degree, by people who oppose equal rights, who oppose reproductive rights, who oppose gay rights, who oppose anti-poverty programs. Any wonder why we’re always coming up short?
And some big voices say we need to pretend that these politicians really don’t believe what they believe, and really don’t do what they do, and of course don’t do what they believe.
Is there any wonder why we’re calling BULLSHIT! on that whole game plan?
And this has gotten way beyond realpolitik, and into trying to set the agenda so that we continue to pretend these people don’t oppose equal rights for large segments of the population. It’s gotten into not only backing the right-wing Democrats who already are in office, but also backing the same types of folks in primaries.
In primaries!
And the rationale? Bush Bush Bush. Well, Bush is a politician in his last term, and it’s already failing miserably. Opposing a term-limited losing politician is hardly the basis for building a party. And opposing any substantive values talk is hardly the basis for building a party identity.
Who are the Democrats, anyway, aside from the folks across the aisles from the Republicans? What do Democrats stand for? What do Democrats vote for? I see an undefined blob. And until we start figuring out what the party is supposed to be all about, this strategy of anybody-but-a-Republican is going to keep losing, whether it’s led by the DLC, the NDN or whoever else wins the inside baseball game.
is why an intraparty insurgency is unavoidable.
We cannot hold together with the current strategy because, while it might look good on paper, people will be people. People will not stand by and watch their rights get trifled with because it will ultimately benefit them down the road. The Iraqis aren’t willing to do it, and the progressives aren’t willing to do it. If we take the strategy of electing moderates and centrists we will walk right into the trap Bush walked into Iraq and Israel walked into in Lebanon. The people were not willing to wait around to see benefits that come to slow, are not assured, and provide cover for more nefarious goals by the policymakers.
If it won’t work, don’t try it. That’s how I see it. If the party is broken, then we must fix it to the best of our ability. And the only way to fix it is to become indespensible. You cross us, you lose. Now, how do we go about making ourselves indespensible? That is the question.
Because I am not interested in taking my ball and going home. I’m not interested in electing more republicans because the democrat doesn’t fit my critieria for purity.
In other words, Kos isn’t all wrong, Kid Oakland isn’t all wrong, Peter Daou isn’t all wrong. And they are not all right either.
The key is to build the netroots structures, but not to give aid and comfort to the enemy while doing it. And that is a tightrope that is difficult to navigate.
But one thing is for sure. Our battlefield is the primaries. No unity until they are over. And no selling out to Bush apologists in the primaries.
In other words, Kos isn’t all wrong, Kid Oakland isn’t all wrong, Peter Daou isn’t all wrong. And they are not all right either.
It’s about more than a few individuals floating around the blogosphere. They are little more than email ids to me.
It amazes me when somebody who doesn’t know me from Adam rejoins with a SOP “single-issue voter” accusation.
This year, I had an opportunity to sign a contract w/ a S&P 500 company. I was elated! It meant that I was taking my business to the next level with greater access. And, BTW, that’s tough for a woman — to swim with the sharks.
As a good liberal, I researched the company online (I had a hunch) and found out to my dismay that they union-bust & pollute. This was the single factor in deciding against this business relationship.
What are you going to tell me? Support the corporate criminals! Or, “kudos, we have unity!”
When you call for expediency in our politics, you are advocating the former.
If you’d respond with the latter, think again before calling (anyone) to the mat for maintaining purity.
For, the next time some “email id” decides to display contempt for “purity”, I will say — this purity is how I manage all aspects of my life. And before you come at me again, I will ask you: what sacrifice to your bottom line have you made in the name of what you believe in?
In order for us, (i.e. real progressives), to become indispensible we have to multiply our numbers an show we are unwilling to compromise on the core principles by giving any support, either lip service or money, to those who would sell out those principles.
As soon as we compromise our principles, we go back to being powerless political nobodies.
That’s my point. If you stand for the core principles of basic human rights you cannot compromise with those that are willing to abandon those rights for thesake of beating the Repubs.
The turncoat, sellout Dems are a greater threat to the Dem party than the lunatic Repubs are.
I began my previous comment by saying “What do we unify around. Nothing positive can develop without first answering that question, and in doing so, defining who “we” are. none of the anti-abortion, anti-gay, anti-equal rights, anti-working class advocates are part of my “we”. If I had a tent, they would not be welcome to hawk their views in it.
This is tragic…
As we speak about so called Party Unity Armando once again front pages two of the most hard core wingnut anti-women fundamentalists… this is insane.
What part of HELL NO to anti-choice Democrats do people not understand…
this is a freaking joke…
“What do we unify upon? What is our message? What do we stand for? We have allowed the republicans to define who we are and the Ademocrats in office believed them. So, they keep moving to the center/right. Nader had it right back in the 90’s when he started calling our government a duopoly and screamed about corporate welfare and special interests and campaign reform. Everyone but a few just laughed at him but for all his faualts he was right and now look what we are stuck with. Basically a one party system that doesn’t give a shit about us only themselves and their fatcat buddies they play golf with for the month of August. I’m sick to death of all this crap and about ready to throw the towel in.
If we want to really take back our country then do something god damn it! Stop supporting these assholes and find us some real candidates that won’t be corrupted and change the gd campaign finance regulations. Enough is enough. I am no genius but if we keep on doing what we are doing we will keep getting the same gd results. Now what do you all want to do about it? Support and vote for someone that believes in what used to be our liberal values or just some narcisstic deem dino that looks “electable”.
Check out David Sirota’s piece on the Dem strategy re the Roberts nomination.
Here’s part of it (please read it all):
This last capitulation is particularly embarrassing when you look at the recent shenanigans. Hours after one Democratic leader tried to lead his party in a strong direction, other Democratic Senators were – as usual – undermining him. Meanwhile, still other profile-in-courage Democrats were running all over Washington publicly handwringing about how they will vote. And then, what do you know, come next election, these same Democrats will wonder how come America doesn’t know what we stand for? For the love of god, they will bellow, how come no one thinks we are strong, and take strong positions? What a hilarious, laugh-out-loud, piss-your-pants joke it would all be – if it wasn’t so sad.
Ok. In the course of writing this, I’ve found my answer. As pathetic and braindead as the media is in only being able to see their narrow, insulated little playground of Washington, D.C. in terms of inaccurate stereotypes that reflect nothing of the actual real world, the current state of Democratic Party affairs is more pathetic. And it is time for all of us to let them know it, or the party will never change, and never win another national election.
Sirotablog has been running some great pieces on the really effed up Dem politicians that hand it all over to the republicans whenever the left really needs the votes…
And he is right. Some of them need to have some real discipline brought down on them from the party.
because it looks like you just want money…
is that supposed to mean?
I just wrote an article specifically NOT calling for unity.
As for money, my position is that until small donors can match large donors, we won’t move the party, the media, or the country to the left.
only if we are willing to pay for it
Don’t you think this is a bit rich… on the day that the Democrats sealed our fate for the next 30 years???
This party is dead… no amout of rah..rah or infusion of cash is going to revive it…
I’ll believe in party unity when our elected Democratic officials feel the need to unify with the base… but so far the only unity I see is parallel front page headlines…
Sorry, but this the WRONG DAY… for this.
Don’t you think this is a bit rich… on the day that the Democrats sealed our fate for the next 30 years???
If you’re referring to the Roberts nomination, even if all the Dems on the committee voted aginst his confirmation, they still would have been outnumbered. The only way this wouldn’t have made it out of committee would have been for a Republican or two to vote against him. We knew that wouldn’t happen.
This party is dead… no amout of rah..rah or infusion of cash is going to revive it…
The party isn’t dead. It’s comatose with minimal brain damage. Do you want to be the one to pull the plug?
I feel like I am Bill Murray in Groundhogs Day. Waking up to the same bad day over and over and over again. And expected to give to these idiots and vote for them over and over and over again.
The same damn day: Demcrats that we funded and elected screws that crap out of us and now were are suppose to “save” the party… tell it to the judge…Roberts that is…
even if all the Dems on the committee voted aginst his confirmation, they still would have been outnumbered.
There is a difference between good intent and bad intent. The Democratic leaderhip never had good intended to oppose Roberts. Nor do they ever intend on being an opposition group they are quite comfortable being in the minority which automatically negates their responsiblity to DO ANYTHING and their losses can be easily excused (like you just did). Bush is polling in the 30% and has just oversaw one the most spectacular debacles in the history of the US… but the Dems are still caving in.
There is no plug to pull they all drank the Kool-aid in a mass suicide… now they are just spirits floating in DC trying to get paid…
Alas, tomorrow is another day and things can change.
Uh… that is the point it doesn’t change… unless radical action is taken… and that is not by throwing more money into this party.
Who’s suggesting just “throwing” money into the party? Seems to me the call is more focused than that.
This party is dead… no amout of rah..rah or infusion of cash is going to revive it.
Do you see a new Progressive party evolving to replace the Dem Party?
Does the internet and blogosphere activist facilitate the new party?
Do you see a new Progressive party evolving to replace the Dem Party?
I have not seen this yet.
Does the internet and blogosphere activist facilitate the new party?
NO in fact the leading bloggers have instead stifled and suppressed true activism in blogosphere and pushed instead a credit card activism…with the same old DLC ideas.
What concerns me about the attacks within the Democratic party is not that they take place, but that they mimic the hostility that is directed between the right and left as a whole. Kos himself, like Fromm in the DLC, does not know how to state his disagreements forcefully without engaging in a a hostile, ad-hominem polemic that is ultimately wounding. And those wounds do not heal quickly, if they heal at all.
I have no problem using invective and harsh arguments against the likes of Bush and his ilk – though I think they are ineffective against moderate Republicans who might be otherwise persuaded. But within the progressive community, or the larger Democratic populace, this tearing down is devastating. I think it played a large role in the loss of the last Presidential election. It certainly led to Kerry as the candidate and left us with a top-down traditional campaign leadership that was woefully unprepared to to battle with the Republicans.
Somehow, the hostility of argument has to be tempered with appreciation of commonalities. I am frankly tired and weary of hearing strong, articulate voices use that rhetorical power to flay away at some sub-group of the progressive community, not to mention the DLC vs. all other Dems decalague. I could say that Kos needs to be more of a publisher and restrain that hair trigger temper. It flies off (fortunately rarely) in a way that damages his own and his community’s credibility and strength. Or I could insist that other regular writers need to refrain from playing whack-mole with atomic sledgehammers against persons who dare disagree with their idiosyncratic arguments.
But I don’t intend an “attack Kos or this or that person on the left”. Rather, it is a matter of the emotion attached to the words. And print does a very lousy job at communicating that tone well, except when the feelings are running very high. I like the research of John Gottman, who studies what makes couples have a good vs. bad relationship. One of the very important things is the ratio of good interactions to negative ones. 10:1 appears to be the magic index. In other words, a lot, ten or more positive things, have to be said or done to counteract the bad effect of a single negative interaction. If the ratio changes, and becomes 6:1, or 3:1, it would still seem like things should be good. But not so. Bad interactions overpower memory, prior history, and cause lasting damage. They bring on actions, thoughts, and feelings, that are not easily corrected.
Your words above show this: Even people who are so involved, who write often, who rightly get lots of praise for insights and high quality writing, are still remembering the same, negative things: Brazile. Women’s studies. NARAL. . These were damaging to our cohesion and relationships. It will not fly to expect that we can cohere around opposition to Bush, or his successor, or backers, or blindly untroubled followers. No, we have to band together for positive reasons. And we cannot do that by flaying at each other for failing to pass some orthodoxy test whether on the right or left.
I don’t know how we can be united with all of our differences and particular interests. But ending the cruelty of our infighting will help. Children usually grow up able to fight and argue without drawing blood except by accident. We need to remember how we did that, and do likewise.
BooMan asks, “What can Joe Biden have to say to voters of color or single women, when he votes for the bankruptcy bill?..”
Good question. Here is a bigger version.
What can either party say to the millions of Americans who are poor, non white, female, and especially those living with a combination.
The problem of US politicians is not a partisan one. Very simply, the politicians do not represent the interest of the people, and the government does not see benefitting the people as its reason for existing.
Politicians work for corporations. They do not work for you. Even if you are not yet “poor,” and fear not, every effort is being made to see that you are poor as soon as possible, your politicians’ best interest is not your own.
Now if you happen to be very, very wealthy, and own a portfolio replete with defense and energy and prison industry instruments. In that case, yes, your alleged government and your politicians just may be acting in your best interests. Sort of. Short term, kind of like Marie Antoinette’s hairdresser.
The plain truth is that neither party has anything to offer to the poor, beyond a photo op ride to the polls on election day for a handful, and maybe a little pork puff here or there for a campaign manager’s brother in law, but in terms of infrastructure, both physical and social that separate a functioning society from a failed state, no.
No health care, no living wage, no right to housing, a steady march toward women’s bodies as state property, and an educational system that some say produces over 40% literate high school graduates.
But there is unlimited money available for crimes against humanity, for destroying cities so that rich men can make more money for “rebuilding” them, better to spend a dollar to kill someone else’s child than a dime to care for your own.
This is not about Democrats and Republicans, or their growing unity.
This is about whether the US is capable of self-government, and whether its own citizens are willing to allow themselves and their children to be destroyed by a handful of Somalia with money, and since we are being honest, whether the people of the world are willing to sit quietly and wait for their own child’s name to be called.
The last few weeks notwithstanding, it is my opinion that there are some Americans who do not agree with the policies of their warlords. A few of them even have electricity and internet access.
They are not wanted by either party, they are not wanted by the warlords.
They are just sitting there, leaning back against the wall, waiting to be asked to dance.
Wowser…
You sure know how to hammer a point home!
And, I certainly agree.
Excuse my ignorance, but what is a “handful of Somalia with money”? Am I totally missing something clever and brilliant?
warlords with lots of money and plans to get more.
When you say this:
do you mean “The only thing we do still unite around” or “The only thing we can possibly unite around”?
Reid ‘no’ vote on Roberts could be Dem green light
“Reid said he felt no pressure from within the caucus to consider filibustering Roberts but recalled that Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean had called him to urge strong and public opposition.
Reid said he told Dean, “Governor, you’ve got to do what you think is right.” As for liberal advocacy groups that have worked to foment resistance to Roberts, Reid said, many are “really hard to satisfy.”
Actually I like Reid, but I also realize that most of the DC Dems look at “liberal advocates” this way.
I guess we know most likely who they are talking about, as the issue lately has been women and their rights, civil rights, equal rights.
I found myself saying to myself Yes, Harry, we are hard to satisfy, yes we are.
It is like the call from the DCCC when I asked the lady why we didn’t just stand up for everyone..
Darn those “liberal advocacy” groups.
I’d say we’re really easy to satisfy. What most of us what is really, really simple: equal rights. Don’t vote for nominees and bills that seek to consign women to roles as breeding stock, don’t vote for things that relegate gays to a status as second-class citizens, don’t vote for unnecessary wars, don’t vote for things that help corporations and hurt people, don’t vote for torture.
Simple.
Though I’ve said this before I’ll keep saying it until they pry the remote from my cold, dead fingers – no progressive stands the chance of a fart in a windstorm without a fair shake from the press.
Bush got a tremendous boost in public opinion with his “Mission Accomplished” landing, not because of the event itself, but because of the reporters’ coming-in-their-pants description of it.
Dean ran out of steam, not because people weren’t moved by his message, but because the talking heads perpetually mocked him and called him “unelectable”.
All the talk about who’s on whose side is utterly meaningless unless we find a way to get past the folks who control the flow of information.
That’s what Daou’s article is all about. Have you read it?
Whatever Peter Daou’s virtues, concision is not among them.
I’ve read it, and it made a whole lot of sense to me. I think we’d all be wise to consider Daou’s points, and adjust our strategies accordingly.
The problem is that the media is controlled by the right-wing. And as long as they control the government, they control the access to the airwaves, which means they can keep giving Clear Channel and Fox and Time-Warner their other big supporters more and more access, while cutting out alternative sources of information. This is also what the recent de-regulation of telco lines (they no longer have to allow other companies to offer DSL ISP services using their lines) was all about.
Democrats have to realize that the media and Hollywood are no longer the allies of progressives, and probably never were.
The media whores itself out to whoever is in power, and to whoever helps them make the most money. Their loyalty to the rightwing ultimately would not survive if it was the left who was enabling them to make the most money.
It’s not about money for big media anymore. It hasn’t been for more than twenty years. It’s all about control over culture and how culture is shaped. It’s about getting the power to prevent distribution of dissenting views, and raise the barrier of entry so high that nothing else can ever compete with them.
Of course, their objectives are impossible. The digital computer guaranteed that. But they’re going to keep trying, and they’re going to cause a lot of damage before they fail.
I agree that controlling the message, controlling the composition and flow of info is the main function of the media now. Long gone are the days when news was actually news first and propaganda second. Now the entire delivery system is shaped by ideological alliegances.
But even though it’s clear that many of the top executives in corporate media are completely complicit in enabling and facilitating the propagation of the wingnut ideology, if they were losing money and power by doing so they’d jump ship in a heartbeat if they found a better source of income.
Sure the media congloms and their big money supporters want to control the message, but for the media itself, what that message is is ultimately less important than whether it’s profitable and power-centric.
True, but ultimately, they will only support a message that continues to give them power. The Republican message (You’re small, powerless, and alone in a hostile world. Let your corporate big brother deal with everything. Don’t ask questions) is good for them. The progressive message is not.
here in California we have a “Mod Squad,” or Moderate Caucus, that defeats environmental legislation with the help of corporate $$$ and the GOP. (from the Capital Weekly):
This is the reality we live in, even with a majority. Dollars pry the political process away from progress.
Vis a vis Daou: the most hopeful netroots actions I’ve seen are:
a) Netroots folks running for positions in the local Democratic Party and running for local public office, including election board. That is our point of entry. If we don’t do this, we don’t get future leaders or fair elections.
b) Netroots folks starting blogs like Nathan Rudy’s Blue 7th in opposition to their GOP Congress critters…and combining off-line with on-line activism.
Both of these are trends that all of us net activists might get behind and support. They move the Democratic Party in a reform/left direction and push for legislative majorities. That’s what we should be doing.
For us progressives, we have the added burden of the “Mod Squads” of the world. And once they are in and raising money, they are hard to stop.
Dollars, at the end of the day, dominate our politics in both parties.
(btw, this thread has some really great comments and and ideas….thanks to everyone above!)
Dollars pry the political process away from progress.
Every argument I ever make that touches on these topics eventually comes back to this. You said it well, so I’m done.
I’ve got your party unity right here.
Words can either convey a very powerful message or get all mucked up with words that seem to convey conflicting messages.
If I wanted to get behind unity I’d rather title this diary Party Equality-then I wouldn’t have to ADD on supposed special interest groups-such a stupid designation-as women, gays, black voters, latinos etc…the glaringly left out group of course would be white men because ah well they aren’t a special interest group..they just are.
Before anyone gets mad at me I am not putting down any white men here I’m just stating a rather obvious fact I think…and I also think that called institutional ‘male whiteism’ that afflicts way to many people-men and women alike.
As far as I’m concerned the Democrats are either for equality or they are not and if not they are going to ‘special interest’ themselves right out of all these groups they want support from when elections come around. Sorry buster, I am not some special interest group, I am a human being.
Unity comes from a simple premise-equality…when everyone really gets behind that then and only then will we(democrats, bloggers, etc) be a force to be reckoned with.
Both come from the effort of our representatives being willing to sacrifice what they stand for and those they actually represent in order to attract the errant centrists. The DLC will never generate a progressive leader and until the Democrats have strong leadership that appears sure if itself, there is no hope they will be able to defeat the Republicans.
Paul Hackett is a leader and shows it. The Senate breeds simpering compromisers who are always willing to bend to the demands of the very last voter instead of finding out what his dearest wish is and threatening it. Then if the guy votes against him, taking what was threatened. He won’t vote against you again or cross you. That is leadership, not politics.
Do that a bit and a recognized leader is born.
Name a Democrat who can do that. There are too few of them.
I reflexively bridle at calls for unity, and here’s why. When people start talking about unity, it usually translates to “keep your head down and be a good little, in this case, Democrat.” It’s a polite way of stifling dissent. It’s true that the GOP has been much better at party discipline and presenting a unified front, but then, stifling dissent is their SOP, now isn’t it. It’s much harder to reach consensus when you hold as a major goal individual liberty. I’ll still take my politics messy and democratic, thank-you very much.
It’s much harder to reach consensus when you hold as a major goal individual liberty.
True. However, if everyone on our side actually held individual liberty as a major goal, we wouldn’t have the kinds of problems we have today, which are mostly infighting about whose individual liberties are going to be tossed overboard in the quest for power.