David Hackworth, I wish you could see this image.
Hack, you won’t believe this: John Holley and his wife Stacey say that they were told by the military that their son’s body — the body of their only child — would arrive “as freight” at Lindbergh Field.
Matthew was a medic with the 101st Airborne unit and died on Nov. 15.
“When someone dies in combat, they need to give them due respect they deserve for (the) sacrifice they made,” said John Holley.
John and Stacey Holley, who were both in the Army, made some calls, and with the help of U.S. Sen. Barbara Boxer, Matthew was greeted with honor and respect.
“Our familiarity with military protocol and things of that sort allowed us to kind of put our foot down — we’re not sure other parents have that same knowledge,” said Stacey Holley.
The Holleys now want to make sure every fallen hero gets the proper welcome.
The bodies of dead service members arrive at Dover Air Force Base.
From that point, they are sent to their families on commercial airliners.
Reporters from 10News called the Defense Department for an explanation. A representative said she did not know why this is happening. (Read all at 10News.com.)
Arms and Influence blog, where I first read about this story, says it so well:
Regardless of your position in the war, I think every American can agree that the bodies of American soldiers should be transported and delivered to the United States with full dignity and respect. If the Defense Department is cutting corners, as this report suggests, perhaps a few political opponents might unite to demand better treatment for the bodies of the fallen. (Emphasis mine.)
Hackworth wrote in 2004:
Donald Rumsfeld – who’s known as a people-eating systems man – has a long history that shows he prefers technology to humans. Certainly as SecDef he’s always gone for high-tech military gear rather than giving the boots on the ground max priority when it comes to the basics: armored vehicles and vests, sufficient ammo and all the other vital stuff that helps soldiers make it through the Valley of Death.
His beloved shock-and-awe whiz-bang wonder weapons worked well enough initially in Afghanistan and Iraq, but as we saw on the tube last week, we’re once again back to the age-old struggle of man against man – with grunts, not machines, taking and holding ground.
And now, apparently, Rumsfeld’s obsession with machines and their efficiency has translated into his using one to replace his own John Hancock on KIA (killed in action) letters to parents and spouses. Two Pentagon-based colonels, who’ve both insisted on anonymity to protect their careers, have indignantly reported that the SecDef has relinquished this sacred duty to a signature device rather than signing the sad documents himself. … Read all.
After his staff lied about it — and thanks to Hackworth’s loud campaign — Rumsfeld finally said he would sign the letters personally. I wonder if he is. As we know, you can’t believe anything these maniacal idiots tell us.
BUT IT’S NOT JUST THE U.S. DEAD who are treated so callously — with their families receiving their children’s bodies as “freight” and the condolence letters being auto-signed.
I could not believe the president’s response to this question following his latest speech on Iraq today.
I thought I might answer some questions. (Laughter.) Yes, ma’am.
Q Since the inception of the Iraqi war, I’d like to know the approximate total of Iraqis who have been killed. And by Iraqis I include civilians, military, police, insurgents, translators.
THE PRESIDENT: How many Iraqi citizens have died in this war? I would say 30,000, more or less, have died as a result of the initial incursion and the ongoing violence against Iraqis. We’ve lost about 2,140 of our own troops in Iraq.
Yes.Q Mr. President, thank you —
THE PRESIDENT: I’ll repeat the question. If I don’t like it, I’ll make it up. (Laughter and applause.)
Q — Thank you for coming to the city where liberty was born. Central to your policy in Iraq is the role of the Iraqis. We hear widely different tales about how the Iraqis are doing in their own area of defense.
First things first: I think this was a planted question. Bush had those numbers too ready.
But, it doesn’t matter that he’d been prepped for the question. What mattered was that the words “ I would say 30,000, more or less, …” fell so easily from his lips. It was just a number. And his self-satisfied look gave away that he was pleased with himself for remembering the correct answer.
What matters is that he didn’t convey a single word of sympathy or caring for those 30,000 dead.
What is odd is that the rounded number of 30,000 so closely matches the Iraq Body Count site’s numbers of a minimum of 27,383 and a maximum of 30,892.
What is sickening is that Bush just moved on to the next question, joking along the way … with nary a recognition of so many dead and wounded, or any evidence of any caring about those human beings. What a fucking asshole he is.
Hack, even if you’re gone, we need your ever-present conscience and writings to remind us to challenge these heartless thugs every step of the way. And, I’m glad your Web site remains up for us to read.
Update [2005-12-13 17:4:28 by susanhu]: Meteor Blades notes:
Obviously, your point here …
…is not to challenge the numbers but rather the attitude. So I won’t go into a long rant, however:
With all due respect to the Iraqi Body Count folks, their study is nearly six months old and “is based on comprehensive analysis of over 10,000 media reports published between March 2003 and March 2005″. I personally think the Lancet study’s calculatons about how many Iraqis may have died in – or, better stated because – of this war should not be ignored. Perhaps as many as 194,000, Lancet’s authors concluded. Certainly more than 100,000. And that study was done more than 15 months ago.
is a fucking monster. I am sick of this nightmare, someone wake me up. >:(
I saw this over the weekend here on the local news(San Diego). Par for course of this administration. They don’t bother to even armor our troops with the proper equipment to protect them from death and maiming. Why would they bother to transport these souls with the dignity they deserve.
30,000 Iraqis, more or less? WHat happen to the 100,000 count of last fall? That number is way too low. We will never know because they stopped counting a long time ago. They are of no concern to this administration. They don’t care. To them the more Iraqis dead the better. This war monging cabal is despicable. There are no words to describe the hate and the rage if feel towards them.
Nobody in this MisAdministration wants to acknowledge the high cost of human life by any country of nationality. Rummy doesn’t want to sign the letters because that would require him to personally know how many people have died. His use of a machine is of itself a concession. So many have died that he would rather not have to sign all those letters. Disgusting.
Bush has to quote a figure and move on to the next quip because 30,000 is a goodly number of people. Rather than face the number, he’ll give a quick quote and scoot on to the next item.
Sending American soldiers bodies home as freight is just another part of the denial. It’s consistent with the policy of avoiding letting people see how many are coming back in flag-draped coffings.
It’s part of the deception and disregard for human life that underlies this hideous war.
Well, if they’re not white Christians, then these are not real deaths. Hardly worth counting apparently, so why bother with sham sympathy. Just more bodies to climb over to reach the goal of world domination.
sounds like another ‘watch this drive’ moment.
He could lump the Iraqi deaths in with the body count of the “insurgents”, as Tucker Carlson appeared to do a couple of months ago — I’m still pissed about that…
I missed that, Cali. What did he say?
P.S. Look at this image that someone posted in the DKos version of this story.
I read the story about war dead shipped as freight yesterday and sent off a heads up email to Olbermann at Countdown. (I figured he’d be the only one who’d be willing to run with this first as a national story).
Maybe others here could drop him a line about it too. It can’t hurt for his editors to have more people calling their attention to it.
Countdown’s email address is;
countdown@msnbc.com
This may be a stupid question, but isn’t freight how you ship bodies? Are there any other realistic options? (I’m assuming special flights or convoys for each body would be prohibitively expensive, even for the Pentagon. Wouldn’t the money be better spent on say, body armor or medical care for the living?)
I believe protocol is they are supposed to fly on military planes to the closest base and met by a full color guard. If that is unavailable they are flown on a commercial jet but flag draped and met by at least one member of the armed services. Considering the body was shipped to San Diego (huge naval base there) and this is apparently happening to other fallen vets, this is betond any reason. It would seem the callousness of this Admin knows no bounds. They are sick fucks.
You think Rummy had any second thoughts about his leadership when he had to sign the 10 death letters the other day?