In truth, it’s easy to get a warrant allowing the FBI or NSA to wiretap someone who may have a connection to a suspected terrorist. Under FISA (The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act), special courts were created that make it much easier for the Government to obtain a warrant. The Government can obtain a “sneak and peak” warrant from these courts without the need to present any evidence whatsoever:
Secret searches can now be authorized by a secret court without public knowledge or Department of Justice accountability, so long as the government can allege there is any foreign intelligence basis for the search.
. . . In 1978 the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act created an exception to the Fourth Amendment’s “probable cause requirement” for physical searches, wiretaps, and subpoenas of business records. FISA created a secret court that granted search warrants so long as a pleading before a closed court asserted that the “primary purpose” of the search or wire tap was to gather foreign intelligence. The warrant needn’t be based on a suspicion of criminal behavior. But the target had to be “linked to foreign espionage.” In theory, American citizens were safe unless they were suspected “agents of a foreign power.” A good indicator of the objectivity of the FISA court: It rejected only five of the 14,000 warrant applications it received before 2001, although it recently became clear that many of those warrants were based on false allegations. The FISA court is not supposed to second-guess the government. These are not adversarial proceedings. Nor does the FISA court maintain ongoing oversight over the surveillance. Patriot amends FISA to allow searches when “a significant purpose” is intelligence-gathering. Not “primary,” but significant. Now you can be subject to secret searches authorized by a secret court so long as there is any foreign intelligence component (and increasingly, drug-related offenses are deemed to have a terrorist component). Moreover, the party to be searched need not be connected to foreign espionage anymore. It’s enough that the government may merely learn something about a terror investigation. Section 207 of the act lengthens the durations of FISA warrants to as long as 120 days in some cases. Finally, under the pre-Patriot FISA and Title III, fruits of FISA search warrants could be used only for information-gathering, not for prosecution. But now intelligence information obtained using FISA’s lower standards for probable cause can be passed along for prosecution purposes.
Short story: All the Government needs for a wiretap or other secret search is a plausible excuse that the Government may learn something useful with respect to terrorists. That’s all. The type of hurdle you can jump over just by claiming someone once traveled to the Middle East or has an Islamic sounding name. It’s a ridiculously low standard. And remember, this is a secret court whose records are classified and sealed from public view.
So why did Bush order secret wiretaps without getting these easy as pie to obtain warrants? It’s not like the FISA courts were turning down government requests for warrants at an alarming rate after all. In fact, since their inception, they’ve only denied granting the Government the warrants it requested FOUR TIMES in 25 years.
Well, David Sirota, in his blog entry at The Huffington Post tells us why Bush ordered these illegal wiretaps without any judicial oversight:
The answer is obvious, though as yet largely unstated in the mainstream media: because the President was likely ordering surveillance operations that were so outrageous, so unrelated to the War on Terror, and, to put it in Constitutional terms, so “unreasonable” that even a FISA court would not have granted them.
This is no conspiracy theory – all the signs point right to this conclusion. In fact, it would be a conspiracy theory to say otherwise, because it would be ignoring the cold, hard facts that we already know.
Two years ago, the New York Times reported that the administration is using the FBI to “collect extensive information on the tactics, training and organization of antiwar demonstrators.” Then, just a few months ago, the Times reported that the FBI “has collected at least 3,500 pages of internal documents in the last several years on a handful of civil rights and antiwar protest groups.” And just this past week, NBC News obtained a 400-page Pentagon document outlining the Bush administration’s surveillance of anti-war peace groups. The report noted that the administration had monitored 1,500 different events (aka. anti-war protests) in just a 10-month period.
These are exactly the kind of surveillance operations even a government-tilted FISA court would reject, and it raises yet more questions: Are these anti-war peace groups the targets of Bush’s warrantless, illegal surveillance operations? Who else has the President been targeting? Has it been his partisan political enemies a la Richard Nixon? Or has he been invading the privacy of unsuspecting citizens in broad sweeps with no probable cause at all?
Have you attended an antiwar demonstration in the last 2 years? Have you written letters to the President or your Congressional representatives denouncing the war or the Bush administration? Do you belong to any groups that seek the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq? Are you a member of the Democratic party, Moveon.org, the ACLU or any other progressive organization? Have you ever posted anything at a liberal blog?
If you answered yes to any of the above, you may be one of the American citizens targeted by these unlawful searches, whether your phone or internet connection has been tapped, or other private records (medical? financial?) searched. You fit the profile of a person for whom a FISA court would not grant the Government a warrant, but one whom Bush and Company might very well like to tabs on.
So, when you hear the bullpuckey talking points from your right wing friends about how Bush was only trying to protect the country from terrorists, be sure and tell them: “Yes. Terrorists like me.”
I wasn’t kidding the other night when I commented that they might be tapping Senator Kennedy’s phonelines. I mean, he was on the “no fly list” for terists…
I really think this is Watergate all over again, and they are using the WOT as an excuse to perform “political monitoring” and, perhaps, even corporate espionage.
That would be just the sort of things they would not want to tip off FISA about.
I suspect they wiretapped Fitz. To them, he’s the real central front in the war on terror.
Now that would make some major headlines! lol
Now I know this will sound paranoid but I get at least two or three hangup calls a day. Anything?
That is just Billy-bung O’Liely. He is shy about his falafel madness…
The only thing to worry about is if he actually starts speaking!
ROTFLMAO!!!!
Steven D, I sent your comment to one of my co-workers, and he came up with this:
Brilliant.
OOPS! Coffe with brandy and keyboards do not mix well together.
Excuse me while I wipe off the keyboard and make a new coffee.
Reid? Boxer? Dean? Pelosi? etc?
Watergate goes techno.
There was this that happened…
Tuesday, December 16th, 2003
The final outcome was that the prosecution chose not to present evidence and her case was dismissed.
Bailed George out, it sounds like.
Can’t have news of this spreading can they?
OOPS! Too late!
How about a possibility even more bizarre…
Say, maybe GWB was duped into this war and didn’t really know shit about foreign policy…yeah. Let’s imagine he’s every bit the bastard in politics but sincerely depended on others for foreign policy and intelligence. I’m not making excuses, honest, but consider it.
When the Plame case evidence came in from Italy, it held enough credible evidence to implicate Americans involved in arms/drugs/smuuggling/terror rings as were the Iran-Contra groups. What if GWB figured this out and jumped on illegal wiretaps to get evidence of his GOP buds to present to Fitz?
…wait,….I knocked my chair over when I fell on the floor.
Ok,…the same heat was on and GWB oredered these taps to find out who knew what and who was talking to who(m)?
The problem with this is that the taps were authorized in 2001, well before Plame, Iraq or Niger came into play.
Don’t we have more than one issue in play here? Some programs were authorized by Ashcroft and renewed but weren’t some also court approved? Also, in late 2002, Ashcroft/Justice had a legal filing to FISA saying their services wouldn’t be needed anymore : )
I think they’ve done all of it…illegal/legal domestic and foreign for security and some for personal gain.
I think Iraq and all you mentioned were well in the mix and being tapped in 2001.
Suspicions lighted up in recollection of the MCI fraud which misrouted domestic telephone traffic onto international networks.
Domestic traffic originating from the MCI network became fair game for warrantless taps of international calls. For that matter, any domestic traffic which happens to pass through a foreign line loses constitutional protection under this policy.
Likewise, if Visa wires your account data to a customer service center in India, that data is open to secret U.S. government review.
Good catch
Then, against all good common sense and better choices, that was the company cronied in to rebuild Iraq’s telecom infrastructure. There were several pieces on what a poor, bankrupt choice they were…unqualified.
I remember the story quite well, but didn’t know how it ultimately turned out.
Oh yes–this was definitely done to make it go away.
I mean really it is a no brainier because that was even my first thought when I heard if the non-FISA spying. Indeed why circumvent the ‘secret’ court other than the court would not approve of what you are doing?
Just recently:
Pentagon Caught Spying on U.S. Anti-War and Anti-Nuclear Activists
Newly leaked Pentagon documents have confirmed the military has been monitoring and collecting intelligence on anti-war groups across the country. Peace protests are being described as threats and the military is collecting data on who is attending demonstrations. We speak with William Arkin, the former Army intelligence officer, who obtained the secret Pentagon documents. [includes rush transcript]
Earlier this week NBC News exposed the existence of a secret Pentagon database to track intelligence gathered inside the United States. The database including information on dozens of anti-war protests and rallies particularly actions targeting military recruiting.
The list included: counter-military recruiting meetings held at a Quaker Meeting House in Lake Forth, Florida. Anti-nuclear protests staged in Nebraska on the 50th anniversary of the U.S. atomic bombing of Nagasaki…
continued at:
http://www.pacifica.org/programs/dn/051215.html
This is Nixon DeJa Vu. It didn’t fly then, it shouldn’t fly now.
So today bush says that just talking about this aides the enemy. So finding out who they were tapping is a non starter then I guess. These assholes are so over the top. The only thing helping the enemy is our invasion of Iraq so by extension bush, cheney and rumi are traitors.
I believe the bad one is spelled rummy
I can understand your taking exception to that spelling! lol
Don’t worry… We knew what was meant!
Y’all heve me more aware of the omnipotent surveillance. I’m used to it but I usually don’t think much about the aggregator’s lack of comprehension and context.
Hard to trust ignorant technology gobbling up intelligent words.
Ok. You last me after the part where the FBI started surveillance on your first 10 letter word… lol jk
You “LOST” me … See what I mean? You confuled me so much I can’t even spell! lol jk (kindof sortof:)
ha!
I said I ain’t skeered of no Carnivore
But I do watch out for them. Just cause you’re innocent son, don’t mean we can’t hassle you anyway.
then you must be one of those spam-header artists.
I never tried to construct headers for spoofing the route but I’ve seen some really odd things in what can be found out there. Companies and websites that should be trusted or ones connected to the admin that consistently land on banned lists for spam. I learned the truer meanings of snort and spew in the lexicon watchers and watcher-watchers.
Sometimes in surfing, a newsgroup thread can be found that is all gibberish except for the subject lines when reshuffled in different orders. Still doesn’t mean anything to me but damn if there aren’t some coincidences most of the time.
ruminant adumbrations.
Last chance! (auto-delete if you’re sure you’re std-free.)
I always think this one’s a trap.
Ah hah thats where I saw it spelled with an i. Sorry my mistake. 🙂
Hey, no problem. I was just having some fun when I saw that.
The Rumi
Have you attended an antiwar demonstration in the last 2 years? Have you written letters to the President or your Congressional representatives denouncing the war or the Bush administration? Do you belong to any groups that seek the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq? Are you a member of the Democratic party, Moveon.org, the ACLU or any other progressive organization? Have you ever posted anything at a liberal blog?
Sure, post a few crappy art diaries and one is suspect. But seriously, one could not put anything past this administration.
When is a democracy not a democracy?
When it’s leaders hold themselves unaccountable to the law.
Josef Stalin had a terrific democratic constitution too, as seen here. And Uber-fascists John Yoo and Alberto Gonzales, as well as the rest of the Bush regime policy implementers are treating our own constitution the same way Stalin treated his; ignoring it whenever it interfered with their agenda.
No one would argue Stalin presided over a functioning democracy. And no one should argue BushCo is presiding over one either.
you bet your ass this is the kind of stuff they’d use against Joe Wilson, or Ramsey Clark, or Richard Clarke, or Colleen Rowley, or …
Forget Nixon. They’re taking a play from Hoover’s book. The only question is who is doing the cross dressing?
LOL. Gives a whole new meaning to ‘having their panties in a knot’…yuuuk…not an image I needed. Now I gotta go wash my eyes out.
Peace
brain cleansing. Oh sure, it costs a little more but it tends to get down there into the cracks and crevices.
BTW – I got my money on Hadley. In a strapless little number just made for twirling.
Good for Sirota for pointing out the obvious.
Again and again, we see the MSM failing to ask – and seek the answer to – the obvious question. Rather, they seek to distract attention from it.
In this case, the talking pundit-heads go on about whether or not warrants could be obtained quickly enough to protect us from terrist attack. What they are not discussing is the obvious point – that the reason for not seeking warrants is that this spying has nothing whatsoever to do with terrists at all.
One reporter pointed out that since 1979, the FISA court has only turned down 5 requests out of thousands.
These people are full of it.
And any fully grown adult should have been insulted at hearing the bastard go on and on about how he’s “protecting us” and implying that we should just trust him.
This posting may be monitored.
Maybe that should be the default signature for all of us.
What if they used it to find out what was going on in the Abramoff investigations? He has ties to all kinds of foreign interests.
There are a numerous stronger reasons why the administration would want to evade oversight.
Indiscriminate methods: Large-volume communications trunks are being tapped, and the administration does not want to pare its eavesdropping once the relevant chatter has been identified.
Deception of courts: The government has been lying to the courts and to defense attorneys about its access to information, and so does not want to petition the court to use sources that its has previously denied having.
Exposure of shadow intelligence operations: Subverting official intelligence operations.
Exposure of foreign agenda: Operations in support of non-U.S.A. operatives — e.g., Venezuelan coup.
Exposure of criminality: The sources might expose criminal complicity by members or friends of the administration or intelligence services.
The fear of getting turned down did not keep them from going to court. It was fear of getting caught breaking the law.
The motives could have been any of those listed above, but the listening (not taps, the NSA uses a different ‘no contact’ method of eavesdropping) didn’t require Bush to do what he did, even in terms of evading the FISC warrant review.
ECHELON, a sort of consortium of the NSA and its equivalent agencies in UK and Commonwealth countries that shares Signal Intercept capacity and inteligence. The U.S. has always had the capability of asking the UK or Canada to share the contents of their intercepts of US communications. The only thing novel about the Bush Administration’s use of the NSA is that it cuts out the middle man (thereby making it more secure, but also criminal.)
So, IMHO, Bush wasn’t evading the FISC’s limited sense of outrage, but that of our English speaking friends in the Commonwealth.
Still, just as making an infra-red image of a residence constitutes a search, so too does capturing and decoding telecom traffic constitute a tap. I’ll not follow the rules of euphemism.
It may be that we are screwing the Canadians and the Brits, but given how much our intelligence services have played the gullible rich kid to the U.K. artful-dodger urchins, it may also be that we are being led by our noses by the Brits.
No doubt this was a warrantless search, whatever the means used.
Anyhoo, I hadn’t really thought about a UK leadership role in this mess, BUT…
Norway happens to be the first country to pick up an oil concession in Iraq. They got it through a regional autonomous government, Kurdistan.
Britain has the other (Southern) oil sector and has far more influence on the regional authorities in the Shi’ite south than does the U.S.
UK and Norwegian interests in the oil and geopolitical areas are often aligned (warning link to big .pdf)
Qui Bono? Everything in Iraq is going according to plan, Y/N?
C&L has the video of Gonzales making bullshit up about this whole spying on Americans on the Today Show…
Go check it out, and then start tearing this piece of “crack-smoking-disjointed-logic” up.
He is trying to say that the power is derived from Congress authorizing the war, and he is also saying, “Well technology of today means that we have to yada yada”
This is such a load of CRAP. He cleared nothing up. He doesn’t even point to where Congress gave them that authority. He just says that they did.
Another asshat and lying piece of shit.