I just saw the new documentary Sir, No Sir which was wonderful. It takes us back to 1962 and the War in Vietnam and how the resistance was born and grew. Just as importantly it shows us how it has been co-opted and revised since then by the conservatives:
The Vietnam War has been the subject of hundreds of films, both fiction and non-fiction, but this story-the story of the rebellion of thousands of American soldiers against the war-has never been told in film.This is certainly not for lack of evidence. By the Pentagon’s own figures, 503,926 “incidents of desertion” occurred between 1966 and 1971; officers were being “fragged”(killed with fragmentation grenades by their own troops) at an alarming rate; and by 1971 entire units were refusing to go into battle in unprecedented numbers.
In the course of a few short years, over 100 underground newspapers were published by soldiers around the world; local and national antiwar GI organizations were joined by thousands; thousands more demonstrated against the war at every major base in the world in 1970 and 1971, including in Vietnam itself; stockades and federal prisons were filling up with soldiers jailed for their opposition to the war and the military.
The part that jolted me to the back wall of the theater was when they talked about the reaction of the public to the returning GI’s. They go back and investigate the ‘girls would spit at the returning GI’s at the airport” rhetoric and show it for the urban myth it is. I was in my teens when the war ended and never saw anyone disrespect a returning soldier from the war. They go back and check news reports in tv and newspapers and find no instances of this supposed occurrance. They show Sylvester Stallone in “Rambo” (a right-wing film from the Reagan era) spouting this as he had an Uzzi or some such in his hands screaming what is basically a total non-truth. Here is the link to the book written about this, titled The Spitting Image, scroll down for the reviews on amazon.
This is something hawks have done to rewrite history. They show no incidents reported of it, combined with very important facts. First the myth states that these GI’s would return to the ‘airport’ and face derision. The fact is that GI’s did not return to civilian airports but to military bases. Secondly the myth states over and over that these hippie chicks spit at them. The real kicker here is that women don’t spit in general even today when behavior is looser than ever. Hippies and war protesters were quite peaceful in general so this wide occurring event always made my alarm bells go off but until I saw this film today did it come into perspective for what it is, an urban myth.
The film does a great job showing how the media downplayed the far-reaching implications that most returning GI’s came home disillusioned with the war and joined the resistance themselves and many started their rebuke of the military in Vietnam and also on or near the military bases at the local coffeehouses.
I encourage people to do their own research and most importantly to see this film now and when it is available on video. It’s very important as it is the precedent for where we are now in Iraq and Afghanistan and possibly very soon in Iran. Please check out the trailer to the film HERE.
That you saw this documentary of the Reality, and that you wrote this Diary!
This is a Must See as another Brother of Vietnam Points out in his Latest Newsletters, modeled after those underground G.I. News of the time.
GI Special 4D20 Show All The Troops Sir! No Sir!.pdf
I’ll post up a few more links to recent G.I. Specials After work.
Or you can visit my little blog HERE. I started hosting some of Toms Newsletters as his Site was Shut Down awhile back, not by his choosing. You’ll find them over on the Right Hand Side, all in PDF form.
By the way. I add a new one as Tom sends them out, which is pretty much Every Day. I’ll probably keep a list of Ten, deleting the last while adding the New.
So you can check them out, A few other sites are osting as well, he lists us at the bottom.
Tom can be abit Harsh, but it’s honest, in his wording.;c}
Newest is at op of list.
One great reason to see the film is to see how incredibly conservative our society has become in the last 30 years (when the film ends).
Soldiers openly disobeying the orders of a lying government and hanging out at coffeehouses writing and listening to poetry seems ages ago.
For all we know there could be alot of desertion and refusal to fight that isn’t even covered by the corporate owned media.
Desertion and refusal to fight wasn’t really covered by the media then either, IIRC (I was pretty young). It only gradually came to light after the fact. Ex-troops in coffeehouses were only seen as a local oddity for a long time; it took a while for folks to connect the dots regarding veteran opposition to the war.
One wonders with the Internet if it would still be possible to hide such behavior today.
run in with an activist when he got of the plane in California. I spoke with Janet Strange in Austin about it and she knows a lot about the topic and also how out of proportion the soldier abuse thing has been played. She did say that there were a few activists in the California area who had a more radical take on the returning Vietnam soldiers.
i would be surprised if it didn’t happen a few times to hundreds of thousands of returning soldiers. Something tells me many more hippies came up and handed them flowers but then that doesn’t make for an interesting story for the wingers.
I think many more policemen were treated with derision and called Pigs on a daily basis (and reacted in kind with their billy clubs). it was a combustible time in this country.
the urban myth makes it sounds like soldiers had to stay in the house for fear of being spit on routinely as they walked down the streets of America.
Hi Wilfred, always enjoy your movie diaries. Speaking of soldiers deserting, I read not to long ago(think from truthout)that the military said about 8000 soldiers have deserted since Iraq war started-with numbers from each branch of military. And also included was the fact that the Pentagon I believe is making a point now after all these years to go after and find soldiers who deserted during the Vietnam War.
I’m looking forward seeing this movie and glad it has been talked about here.
Is now placed on my site along with the few I’ve caught!
It’s also sent out to a few Groups, most notiably, Pro-Peace and Vets, as well as the Sir! No Sir board in the Discussion Section!!
Now here’s another Must See, especially after what the ‘swifties’ tried, once more to do, during the last election, but also for the Historic Nature of the ‘Winter Soldier Testimony’:
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i reviewed “Winter Soldiers” when it came out and loved it (even more than Sir, No Sir) and they do mention the Winter Soldiers toward the end of this film.