For starters, I must give a hat tip to technopolitical for leading me to this document. But it is simply amazing that, despite all of the talk about how much we can torture people before our “leaders” can’t actually call it torture anymore, there is actually an old CIA document from the 1960s that defines tactics not nearly as horrific as those we have been hearing about as “torture and physical coercion and should never be considered otherwise”.
Oh, yeah – I am serious (and please stop calling me “Shirley”….)
The originally classified and confidential Memorandum to J. Edgar Hoover from the CIA discusses brainwashing, mind control and interrogation – all from, as the report indicates, a “psychological viewpoint”. Even more telling – especially in light of the time in history under which this document was prepared, is that the CIA view of “torture” is under the section dealing with Communist Control Techniques.
So can we compare the tactics approved of and pushed by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, McCain, Rice, Hadley and any of the other war criminals who are responsible for dragging this country’s name through the gutter?
I’ll give you a few passages because frankly, it is quite shocking how this document is used to talk about how the “Communists” can use mind control techniques and as stated on the very first page of the document (even before the Table of Contents):
We know how that men can be made to do exactly anything…..It’s all a question of finding the right means. If only we take enough trouble and go sufficiently slowly, we can make him kill his aged parents and eat them in a stew.” (Jules Romains. VERDUN. A.A. Knopf, 1939, P. 156)
In discussing the “involuntary re-education” of an individual, where he or she can be taught to believe, well, pretty much anything with enough pressure and tactics, the document said the following:
It is not necessary to use direct physical means to reduce a person to a state where involuntary re-education can take place.
Interestingly, the document also talks about propaganda, brainwashing and false confessions as well as the issues that go along with it. In laying out reasons why it is important to understand the psychology of those who are brainwashed and how to deal with people who have become brainwashed, the document says the following:
The propaganda-value of false confessions and the public anxiety concerning brainwashing loom, however, as major preoccupations. Statements of brainwashed individuals have been a sharp-edged tool in the Communist propaganda kit.
—snip—
Another and even more effective propaganda goal may be the creation of a state of fear within the populace [of western bloc nations].
There is a large amount of information relating to brainwashing and the “result of a false confession”, including the arrest, the collection of “evidence” the detention (including isolation) and other “parts of the process”. And when discussing the interrogation techniques of Communist interrogators, there is the following (and startling) passage (scroll down to page 25):
Two of the most effective of these [ways to apply pressure] are creating fatigue and preventing the prisoner adequate sleep.
—snip—
Continued loss of sleep produced clouding of consciousness and a loss of alertness, both of which impair the victim’s ability to sustain isolation.
Another simple and effective type of pressure is that of maintaining the temperature of the cell at a level which is either too hot or too cold for comfort.
—snip—
Still another pressure is to reduce the food ration to the point to which the prisoner experiences constant hunger.
—snip—
The effects of isolation, anxiety, fatigue, lack of sleep, uncomfortable temperatures, and chronic hunger produce disturbances of mood, attitudes, and behavior in nearly all prisoners. The living organism cannot entirely withstand such assaults.
The Communists do not look upon these assaults as “torture”. Undoubtedly, they use the methods which they do in order to conform, in a typical legalistic manner, to Communist theory which demands that “no force or torture be used in extracting information from prisoners.” But these methods do constitute torture and physical coercion and should never be considered otherwise.
Well, well, well. So when it is others that are using these tactics (and they aren’t nearly as bad as what we have heard of in Abu Ghraib, Afghanistan, other countries where to where many innocent people are “rendered”, or in Guantanamo), then it is most certainly torture and should never be considered otherwise”
But when it is done and ordered by Rumsfeld, Bush or any others that represent the United States, then we have a stark similarity to that “communist assertion” that is noted above.
Kind of like this comment from our very own Senator Richard Grassley:
“We don’t have to draw a line against torture because America doesn’t torture prisoners,” he said. “The courts have said what we’ve been doing is only unlawful because Congress hasn’t given the president authority to do it.”
Hell, even the CIA knew this was torture back in the 1960s.
in orange
Torture makes Americans less safe. It puts Americans abroad at risk, not just soldiers but anyone really. The US has seemingly declared that anyone it deems to be an enemy is subject to capture, detention and torture. By that logic, any American abroad is vulnerable to capture and torture by Islamic militants or any other group that the US seems to be at war with.
Not only that, but torture produces a steady stream of useless information, no different than the witch hunts of a more medieval time. People will just tell you whatever you want to hear because if you don’t confess, you obviously just need more torture. By wasting time following up false leads and junk information, torture is making people less safe.
Those reasons aside, the fact that people are willing to sacrifice their humanity and decency in the name of trying to make themselves a little safer is pathetic. I think it was BooMan who said yesterday that the right-wing bedwetters seem to think the world is like “24” and they can play the role of Jack Bauer, torturing information out of people just in time to foil a terrorist plot.
ha – that was in my diary but I’ll take the comparison to Booman anyday!!!
Heh, sorry about that, it was a very apt comparison though. We have a bunch of Republicans running around pretending to be Jack Bauer just like Ronald Reagan ran around telling stories based on movies he was in. At least Ronnie could blame the onset of Alzheimers, these current nimrods can only blame themselves.
no worries on the comparison. As for this comment of yours:
They can only blame themselves, but they DO blame everyone else…..
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The CIA would have called it torture — and warned us against those who would claim otherwise:
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thank you again for finding this document!!!
The modern conservative anti-Communist movement that took over the Republican Party maintained that the US was subject to takeover by Communists because of our democratic values. They lusted for the parallel structure of political commisars in the technocratic bureaucracies. They enjoyed the derring-do of the idea of cells operating behind the scenes. They began to build their propaganda infrastructure in the 1970s (see Brock’s The Republican Noise Machine. In power, they took steps to seize the levers of cultural and economic power. With Bush, they phonied up elections. The use of torture should not be a surprise. The next step is the actual purge of the Republican Party (not as a metaphor but with the methods that Stalin used).
They have become the devil they hated.
at breakfast today…
Let’s suppose Bill O’Reilly, or maybe Ann Coulter, went to Venezula. And they were sitting in a coffee shop down there, and made an off the cuff remark about how bad Hugo Chavez was, or how someone needed to slip some rat poison in his caramel flan or such.
That evening, when ensconced in their hotel rooms, the state police come and seize said Bill or Ann and haul them off to prison.
They’re held without benefit of legal counsel, treated in the most inhumane ways possible. Near-drowning, degrading photos (but Bill might like those), the works.
Then, several months or years later, they’re dragged in front of a secret court, charged with “fomenting treason against the government of Argentina”.
They’re not allowed to see any evidence against them or to face their accusers, not allowed to defend themselves by showing their books thus proving they have a sick-ass sense of humor, but that they weren’t actually serious.
They’re tried, convicted, and sentenced to death.
The ultra-right wing would be up in arms, clamoring for the United States to take action; the “weaker” ones asking for economic sanctions while the rest urge full-scale military action.
Oh, but it’s okay if we’re after brown-skinned Muslims…
and make that “Venezuela”.
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