Hillary Clinton just made an appearance at the Yearly Kos convention. She gave a short speech and then said she wanted to take questions. Peter Daou asked everyone to identify themselves and where they blogged. The first question, from a member of the National Teacher’s Association, was about No Child Left Behind. Education is clearly one of Hillary’s animating passions because she spoke for almost fifteen minutes. This left very little time for any other questions. She promised to repeal the Military Commissions Act and shut down the Guantanamo prison. She said that she voted against the FISA law last night but noted it had a sunset provision and said she would revisit it as President.
Then she received a great question. A gay man stood up and thanked her for committing to do away with the Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy. The he said, “but I want to know if you will commit to doing away with four other pieces of legislation that your husband passed?”
After a lot of laughter, he listed them: The Defense of Marriage Act, the 1996 telecommunication bill, NAFTA, and the welfare reform bill.
It was a great question. Hillary defended DOMA as a necessary way of preventing a Hate Amendment to the constitution. She did commit to repealing that third section of the law, which she said denies full rights under federal law. She told the audience to ask Al Gore about the telecommunications act because she was no expert. Her comments on NAFTA were predictable and standard.
[aside: ooh, Obama just got a HUGE cheer while being introduced at the candidate’s forum.]
I’ll have more after the conference.
Edwards is pushing an old school populist line. He’s saying that he’s going to take on and beat the oil and health industries. No money from lobbyists.
He is going to be tearing it up on the campaign trail because he doesn’t care anymore. He’s not playing it safe.
About gd time someone quits playing it safe…the really big question is going to be just how much coverage the MSM is going to allow him and if his message will get out to the general public.
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Sen. John Edwards speaking
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."
I’m at a library at the other side of town, where Daughter is attending a meeting of an Anime club. Thankfully, I can get online here. Can’t listen to the speeches, though.
I’ve transcribed a little over half of Howard Dean’s keynote address, by the way…
http://www.independentbloggers.org
Clinton got an incredulous response when she said that no one would think she’s influenced by lobbyists considering her long record of public service.
ha ha…does she really think net users are as dumb or uniformed as the general public? That we don’t know how to make use of places like ‘opensecrets, corpwatch etc?….jeezzzzz
Well, if she were testifying before the Judiciary she’d be ok.
We DON’T think she’s influenced by lobbyists.
We damn well KNOW she is.
So, technically, it wasn’t a lie.
ha ha again..long record of public service-big deal so does Senator Ted Stevens and we know how that’s working out.
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Who will be about change? Who is the candidate for change? And how do we bring about change?” asked former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, suggesting his rivals are creatures of the status quo.
Seven of the eight leading candidates attended the second Yearly Kos convention, participating in a candidate forum and conducting individual sessions designed to be more freewheeling.
The convention drew 1,500 bloggers, most of them liberal, who represent the latest advancement in communicating and community.
Sen. John Edwards, left, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., center, and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., look out over the crowd after they participated in the Yearly Kos Convention's Presidential Leadership Forum in Chicago. (AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast)
Edwards, the party’s 2004 vice presidential nominee, called on the field to join him, along with Obama, to forsake donations from lobbyists. That is a pledge he said Republicans should take, too. “We don’t want to trade their insiders for ours,” he said.
Clinton, who accepts such donations, did not respond.
MEDIA POWERBROKER ZUNIGA
Some political bloggers have huge audiences of people who trust their opinions. One such new media powerbroker is the convention’s spiritual leader, Markos Moulitsas Zuniga, founder of Daily Kos, among the first and most widely read political blogs.
“This really is democracy in action,” he said of the convention, which connected online activists though a traditional off-line gathering. “This is regular Americans using technology to engage in politics.”
While there is little hard data to support the theory, Zuniga and other observers contend that Clinton is viewed skeptically by the netroots community. The knock against her is that she is too moderate or too calculating, or both, particularly when it comes to the Iraq war. She has evolved from a hawkish Democrat to a candidate determined to improve her standing in the anti-war community.
Zuniga, who said he is in no hurry to endorse a candidate, said Clinton has improved her standing with the Kos community. Still, he said, Clinton’s best hope may be to mitigate the damage. “We may decide she’s not our first choice, but she’s not a bad choice,” he said.
YearlyKos: The Movement is Organized
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."
quite the turn of phrase there. appropriate word’s escape me…excuse me while l go hurl.
lTMF’sA
Oh good. I feared Markos might languish for lack of attention. Thank goodness someone is giving him some props. ‘Cause I’ve got this mental image of him flopped on his bed, wearing bunny slippers and downing pints of Häagen-Dazs, sobbing “When? When will all this hard work pay off? When will I finally rise from obscurity and receive just a tiny bit of recognition? When–?”
Oops. I seem to have pulled some snark-related muscle. I should probably go rest for a while.
He can say that of the convention. Unfortunatley he can say the same of his blog…
Sunset my ass! The stupid fool doen
t realize that all she and the rest of the traitors have once again capitulated! Given the goopers and the neogarbage lots more talking points, and pissed on all of us that daily go out and do battle with the constitution rapists, the anti gender free folks. The 45 million unovered poor bastards that don’t have a dime for med coverage are just one example of the folks that just find themselves once again screwed, lied to and that is that.
Sunset my ass. She just lost me and I bet that there will be a ton more. And don’t get me started on the proverbial question– If not her the who?
I answer- better to pass in 08 that eat one more speck of shit!
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A review with links to video reports.
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."