Senator Jack Reed of Rhode Island gave the Democratic response to the President’s speech.
Good evening.
I’m Senator Jack Reed from Rhode Island, and I was privileged to serve in the United States Army for 12 years.
I opposed the war in Iraq from the beginning. It was a flawed strategy that diverted attention and resources away from hunting down Osama bin Laden’s terrorist network.
Okay, this is a pretty good start, but invading Iraq can’t really be called a strategy. A strategy for what? It might have been a strategy for ending the sanctions on Iraq so we could go in there and pump some oil, but it wasn’t a strategy in any normal military sense of the word. Reed shouldn’t call it a strategy, flawed or otherwise.
And since then, too often, the President’s Iraq policies have worsened America’s security. Hundreds of billions have been spent. Our military is strained. Over 27,000 Americans have been wounded, and over 3,700 of our best and brightest have been killed.
Tonight, a nation eager for change in Iraq heard the President speak about his plans for the future. But once again, the President failed to provide either a plan to successfully end the war or a convincing rationale to continue it.
So true. But that doesn’t mean that he won’t get his money…does it?
The President rightfully invoked the valor of our troops in his speech, but his plan does not amount to real change. Soldiers take a solemn oath to protect our nation, and we have a solemn responsibility to send them into battle only with clear and achievable missions.
And, I presume, you have a solemn duty to take them out of battle for the same reasons.
Tonight, the President provided neither.
As a former Army officer, I know the great sacrifices our soldiers and their families make. Our military can defeat any foe on the battlefield. Yet, as General Petraeus has repeatedly stated, Iraq’s fundamental problems are not military, they are political. The only way to create a lasting peace in Iraq is for Iraqi leaders to negotiate a settlement of their long-standing differences.
Invoking General Petraeus for added credibility is a dubious exercise. We’d all like to respect our generals, but even the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs thinks Petraeus is a “an ass-kissing little chickensh*t“, and he added, “I hate people like that”. Petraeus is a lobbyist for more war…not a credible source for what is going on in Iraq.
When the President launched the “surge” in January, he told us that its purpose was to provide Iraqi leaders with the time to make that political progress. But now, nine months into the surge, the President’s own advisers tell us that Iraq’s leaders have not, and are not likely to do so. Meanwhile, thousands of brave Americans remain in the crossfire of another country’s civil war.
So, this means you will refuse to fund the war?
So tonight, we find ourselves at a critical moment.
Do we continue to heed the President’s call that all Iraq needs is more time, more money, and the indefinite presence of 130,000 American troops — the same number as nine months ago? Or do we follow what is in our nation’s best interest and redefine our mission in Iraq?
Redefining the mission must mean a plan to get out? Right?
Democrats believe it is time to change course. We think it’s wrong that the President tells us there’s not enough money for our veterans and children’s health care because he is spending $10 billion a month in Iraq. We have put forth a plan to responsibly and rapidly begin a reduction of our troops. Our proposal can not erase the mistakes of the last four and a half years, but we can chart a better way forward.
Beginning a reduction of the troops doesn’t sound like anything more than the President has proposed.
That is why our plan focuses on counter-terrorism and training the Iraqi army. It engages in diplomacy to bring warring factions to the table and addresses regional issues that inflame the situation. It begins a responsible and rapid redeployment of our troops out of Iraq. And it returns our focus to those who seek to do us harm: Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups.
Oooh. You meant the Baker-Hamilton report all along. Why didn’t you say that at the outset? That is not a plan for getting out of Iraq.
An endless and unlimited military presence in Iraq is not an option. Democrats and Republicans in Congress and throughout the nation can not and must not stand idly by while our interests throughout the world are undermined and our Armed Forces are stretched toward the breaking point.
If an endless military presence in Iraq is not an option then why are you going to pay for it?
We intend to exercise our Constitutional duties and profoundly change our military involvement in Iraq. We ask Americans of good will of whatever party to join with us in this historic effort to restore the strength and security of the United States. I urge the President to listen to the American people and work with Congress to start bringing our troops home and develop a new policy that is truly worthy of their sacrifices.
Thank you.
I really wish you would exercise your constitutional duties and impeach and convict the President and the Vice-President. But you have no intention of doing anything but passing some toothless amendments to a war supplemental bill that will not end this war and compel the President to do anything substantively different than he’s done since the last supplemental funding bill. You know it, I know it, and a smattering of people that actually pay attention know it.
Overall, I thought Reed’s speech was forceful and excellently presented. But it doesn’t change the fact that there is only one way to end this war and that is to refuse to pay for it. You have the votes if you don’t vote.
“Petraeus is a lobbyist for more war…not a credible source for what is going on in Iraq.“
Better than that! Petraeus’s ambitions (for which he is well-known) are – surprise, surprise! – not limited to his military career:
“The US commander in Iraq, General David Petraeus, expressed long-term interest in running for the US presidency when he was stationed in Baghdad, according to a senior Iraqi official who knew him at that time.
Sabah Khadim, then a senior adviser at Iraq’s Interior Ministry, says General Petraeus discussed with him his ambition when the general was head of training and recruitment of the Iraqi army in 2004-05.
“I asked him if he was planning to run in 2008 and he said, ‘No, that would be too soon’,” Mr Khadim, who now lives in London, said.
General Petraeus has a reputation in the US Army for being a man of great ambition. If he succeeds in reversing America’s apparent failure in Iraq, he would be a natural candidate for the White House in the presidential election in 2012.
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Oh yeah! Did you ever wonder WHY he is such an “ass-kissing little chicken s***”?
Well, as you can see above, he has his reasons.
And I really like the way Helena Cobban described Petraeus’s entry into the hearing room on Monday:
“I guess the main thing that struck me was the cock-a-hoop way that Petraeus preened his way around the hearing room, gladhanding everyone like a seasoned politician… Whereas Crocker looked anguished, concerned, and very uncomfortable.
“Also, whenever the Congress members asked questions that were not specifically directed to one or other of the two “witnesses”, Petraeus jumped right in and answered them without even seeming to ask Crocker if he wanted to go first. Even when they were on clearly political (as opposed to more military) subjects.
“It was alpha-doggist discourse-hogging of the first order. Fairly nauseating, all in all.
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Well done, BooMan. I like the way you laid this out….and like your comments at all the right places.
Who are we kidding here? If the Democrats wanted to do something….they can do something.
Actually, they can’t do something because I don’t think Reid or Pelosi can get their caucuses to sign off on a strategy of refusing to pass a supplemental.
That’s what they really mean when they say they don’t have the votes.
Things are looking too good for the Dems for them to seriously contemplate a confrontation over funding the troops. They’ll try to pass stuff, but when it gets filibustered or vetoed, they’ll cave.
Nothing has changed since the spring.
So…you write an entire post basically snarking the hell out of the chickenshit Dems as represented by yet another “Reporting for duty” blowhard loser American Hero.
And then you ruin the whole thing at the end by reverting to your Dimwitocrat roots, saying “Overall, I thought Reed’s speech was forceful and excellently presented.”
I nearly blew my cookies.
Jesus, Booman.
They are going to do NOTHING.
Except posture and bloviate.
And you tell me that I outsmart myself?
Please.
AG
As a pundit, I thought he gave an effective speech. A tough speech. But the problem is that they are not going to back it up.
And Reed is a member in good standing of that club.
Proof?
He was chosen to rebut Butthead’s speech by the Beavises at the top of the Democratic Party. A safe choice. No loose cannon he.
No stupid cannon, either. He knows what’s up.
Politics.
Whch by any other name still reeks of the blood of innocents. ESPECIALLY in time of unilaterally aggressive war.
If Lincoln made his Gettysburg Address and then turned around and betrayed the concepts that were implicit in it…in fact if he was a witting participant in a process that was absolutely guaranteed to subvert its sentiments…how “effective” or “tough” would that speech really have been?
Do as I say, not as I do?
THAT’S tough and aggressive?
Sorry, Booman.
You ARE being a pundit.
That’s Novak-level bullshit.
AG
you’re grumpy today.
People are dying while the PermaGov of “my” country…which country already VOTED to stop the war, in the last election…absolutely refuses to take any action other than the dithering of bullshit.
While we march inexorably towards a nuclear confrontation which will quite likely kill me, my family and my friends as well as all of the work that all of our forefathers did in the dream of founding a real democracy.
We are quite literally in the control of representatives of a MONSTROUS evil.
And you dare to use the word “grumpy”!!!???
You are jerking off in unison with the Dems and the complicit mass media, Booman.
Shame on you.
Wake the fuck up.
It is crunch time.
AG
take a walk or something. You’ll feel better.
So I walk out into the Bronx streets this fine, sunny late summer day. And I see hypnoperson after hypnoperson trancing down the street in one or another state of total media domination.
Just as are you, only on generally lower levels.
Yah.
I feel MUCH better.
Not.
AG
Give me a break. If you wanna break my balls at least acknowledge what I said. I said it was a generally tough and effective speech, well delivered. But the problem is that they won’t stand tall and hang tough, so what does it matter?
If that is somehow suffering from media hypnosis I don’t really get it. Because aside from some quibbles I had with the framing and content of the speech (which I pointed out) they problem wasn’t the speech, it was what comes after the speech.
The very use of the word “pundit” in self-description is all I need to hear on this matter, Booman.
It is a symtpom of TOTAL media hypnosis.
Worse…a form of self-hypnosis in your case.
Wise up. You are better than that.
And…how can a speech POSSSIBLY be referred to as tough and effective (especially the use of the word “effective”) WHEN IN ALMOST THE SAME BREATH YOU ADMIT THAT IT WILL NOT BE EFFECTIVE!!!???
That the same game will continue unabated.
Please.
You watch too many virally infected commentators.
Be careful, bro’.
No matter how immune you may dream that you are…it’s catching.
Bet on it.
My own prescription?
A bundled dose of NEWSTRIKE!!! and MEDIASTRIKE!!!, taken without fail for three whole weeks.
You can cheat a little and skim the headlines over at Google News.
Dassit, baby.
No more exposure to the mass media news vius.
None.
Cold turkey/
Cold lack of turkey blather
Three weeks later?
Your recent serious case of pundititis will have receded to tolerable levels once again.
BUT…to paraphrase John Philpot Curran from his speech on the Right of Election of Lord Mayor of Dublin, July 10, 1790.
Beware…
Be VERY ware.
AG
False logic derived from deliberately ignoring my point.
The speech would be fine if it were followed by strong action. In other words, he made the argument quite well for something he’s not going to be able to back up.
Which point, I think, I made quite clear and emphatic.
Unless this is a blog about effective rhetoric instead of about politics…a pundit’s tactic, in my opinion, to praise rhetorical power while simultaneously “disagreeing” with content…then you stand convicted of RAMPANT punditry by the above line.
I am sorry, Booman, but when I paid serious attention to the newsheads…WAY back in the distant past, I must admit, but my occasional brief nose-holding forays into the MSM invariably serve to reinforce this notion..it was a BASIC tactic (no doubt taught in Time Magazine Journalism 101 classes throughout our lovely educational system) for pundits to firmly place each foot on opposite sides of a question so that they could get the largest number of readers to pay attention with them. Yea OR nay. Circulation and ratings translate into power and/or dollars, as I am sure you know.
In this particular post, you thoroughly discredit Reed’s awful speech, and then finish off by complimenting him on its…
Its WHAT, Booman?
Its style?
FUCK style!!!
it is a speech which through its total lack of actionable substance cooperates in the further pursuit of Blood For Oil.
Really.
Raise some hell, Booman.
Purgatory is a TERRIBLE place to be.
AG
I try to identify myself when I slip into a pundit’s role, as opposed to my more usual activist, or advocates, role.
I don’t think anyone reading that, except perhaps you, missed the point.
The Dems should think carefully about this non-course they’re charting. If they can’t be bothered to end the war before the elections, what reason do I have to believe that they will end it after the elections? The current front-runner has made it pretty clear that she intends to keep a sizeable force in Iraq, the guy in second place doesn’t have any discernable views at all, and the guy in third, who I had supported until the past couple of days, $400 haircut and all, has announced that he will put Republicans in his cabinet! Republicans! Can you believe that shit?
Would someone like to tell me why I should bother to vote instead of spending that time with my continuing foreign language lessons? Is there anyone out there who wants to be President of the United States more than they want to be Mayor of Baghdad?
If you’ll pardon me, I’m going to go to the airport now in hopes of an opportunity to spit on returning politicians.
Edwards said he wants to put Republicans in his cabinet? I didn’t see that.
I actually could care less. I don’t think the promise is worth the paper it was written on. It’s makes some people feel better to fantasize about a world where Dems and Republicans just get along and agree on shit. Olympia Snowe can be the secretary of transportation for all I care.
Cabinet, closet…same thing.
Edwards himself is not worth the paper he is written on.
AG
The whole thing is here.