When we look at the candidates for president, there are different ways of judging their electability. The most obvious is political talent. Fred Thompson, for example, has very little political skill. He simply doesn’t have the ‘fire in the belly’ required to win a presidential race. On the Democratic side, Senator Dodd suffers from a charisma deficit that prevents him from rising to the top tier of candidates. This is a shame, because Dodd and Thompson are probably the best people to run the country (from their respective parties) at this time. If I had a vote in the Iowa caucuses, my first choice would be Dodd. If I voted in the Republican caucus, my vote would be for Thompson. But neither of them are going to last long in the campaign, as voters sense that their lack of political talent makes them a risky pick for the general election.
Another criteria is policy. There are policy positions that can make you unelectable. Mike Huckabee’s tax plan is a deal breaker. Ron Paul’s desire to abolish the Department of Education, the IRS, the Department of Homeland Security, and to withdraw our troops from Germany and South Korea are all too radical to withstand sustained scrutiny in a long presidential campaign. The media will not take these positions seriously. Dennis Kucinich and (to a lesser extent) Bill Richardson have taken policy positions that threaten their electability.
Character is another factor that influences electability. Rudy Giuliani’s serial tax-financed adultery, shady business dealings, and loose connections to organized crime would be crippling in a general election. Mitt Romney’s flip-flopping on issues like abortion and his exaggerations about his biography combine the worse aspects of Al Gore and John Kerry. John Edwards is vulnerable (whether we like it or not) on the charge that his populism is insincere. It’s not just expensive haircuts…it’s his huge home and his work with a hedge fund. Edwards’ populism is also pushing the edges on policy of what is possible in American politics. His anti-corporatism assures that the corporate press will be hostile to his campaign from start to finish.
Another consideration is age or inexperience. John McCain would be the oldest president ever elected, and we all saw how Ronald Reagan deteriorated mentally in his last two years in office. If we are looking for foreign policy experience, the only top candidates that have a decent resume are Hillary Clinton and John McCain. By this I mean, they are the only ones that have been immersed in foreign policy for a number of years and know a lot of foreign leaders. Of course, Biden, Dodd, and Duncan Hunter have a lot of years of experience in Congress working on international affairs. Bill Richardson has the best resume on foreign affairs, but he has poor judgment (as seen just this week, on Pakistan).
Another factor in electability is the ability to raise money. Those taking public financing, like John Edwards, may find themselves short on money between the day they secure the nomination and the day they become the official nominee (at the convention). A well financed opponent could use that time to define the race in their favor.
Race, gender, and religion are all factors in electability that will weigh most heavily on the campaigns of Clinton, Obama, Huckabee, and Romney.
A factor related to political talent is likeability. Mike Huckabee and Barack Obama lead the field in this category. Hillary Clinton and Alan Keyes are taking up the rear.
When we look at the candidates, all of them have weaknesses. The only Republican that passes enough tests to be a viable candidate in the general election is John McCain. He has the age issue and his fundraising sucks, he has some problems with the Republican base, but he is the Establishment pick and he has the experience.
On the Democratic side, only Kucinich and Richardson are truly unelectable, i.e., they would lose to almost any conceivable Republican opponent. For Kucinich this is for lack of political talent, lack of likeability, lack of fundraising, poor media relations, and policies that are out of the mainstream. For Richardson, it is lack of political talent, lack of fundraising, and poor judgment leading to policies far out of the mainstream.
Dodd and Biden, while they could beat any Republican, are not going to be the nominees.
That leaves Clinton, Obama, and Edwards as the only possible nominees, and they all have their electability problems. For Clinton, the biggest problem is high negatives. For Obama, racism and inexperience. For Edwards, it’s a hostile corporate press. I honestly think that Obama will have the easiest ride of the three. It’s remarkable, but the (partly) African-American is the MOST electable candidate in the Democratic field. Yet, that fact is not decisive because all Democrats (except Richardson and Kucinich) can beat all Republicans (except McCain). If the Republicans nominate Romney or Huckabee, the Democrats will win the presidency no matter the (plausible) Democratic nominee.
However, the upside potential is different. Both Edwards and Obama have the potential to win a landslide election and bring in larger congressional majorities in the bargain. Clinton probably cannot do that. She can win, but I can’t see her breaking the red/blue divide.
I have ideological reasons for opposing the Clintons, but I also have electability reasons. I think Clinton is the only one of the top three that is likely to lose to John McCain. That makes my decision a choice between John Edwards and Barack Obama. That’s a subject for another diary.
since the PA primary is one of the last ones, you don’t actually have to decide between obama or edwards. i mean, if there’s any race left by april (and there probably won’t be), it’s unlikely that both obama and edwards will still be standing.
at least that’s how i see it. so i don’t have a problem remaining officially undecided and go back and forth on almost a daily basis–though in all honesty i seem to lean towards obama more.
The only reason for a Pennsylvanian to make up their mind now is if they want to be an activists, help in the early state, or help with the petition drives… I have made up my mind and am doing that.
Then again there is a very real chance that this race may continue to the end. Democratic primaries divide the delegates proportionally so unless these races are a blow out the only restrictions on continuing to run is money and national support. Both Obama and Hilary have enough of both to continue at least until Feb. 5, potentially beyond.
I do agree with BooMan’s analysis on this one. The corollary to electability is who can campaign and win in a way which will allow them to govern well.
Good analysis, but I’m not sure why you think that, of the republicans, Thompson would do the best job of running. It’s unclear to me that Thompson has any particular talents or accomplishments to his name.
(Just thought I’d pick on the most trivial bone I could find…)
Here’s a big bone question, and one that unfortunately is realistic: will Hillary choose Obama as a running mate?
Don’t know why I am so pessimistic; maybe it’s the national polls.
thompson sucks at running. I am only saying that if I had to pick a Republican, it would be Grandpa Fred.
I meant to say, what make you think that Thompson would be any good at running THE COUNTRY?
…although perhaps your logic is that he wouldn’t try, and that for a republican, that’s the best we can hope for (!!)
He’s not a bad actor. But then, we already tried that and you know how that turned out.
enough of the crap about the media doesn’t like Edwards. Every blog reports this like it is a fact.
Yeah, they made fun of his haircut. Good, that was pretty stupid for someone trying to be Gomer Pyle.
He is boring and a pretty boy. That is a fact. If the media reports it, good.
Obama has been called Muslim, Saddamn, and a coke dealer. Is that what you consider positive coverage.
None of those started in the Mainstream Media. All of them have been fed by opposition primary campaigns and some of them were started in the right wing media.
Is that what he’s doing?
The complaint of the Edwards’ camp, and I think it’s a valid one, is that the media has worked overtime to frame the race as Clinton v. Obama. I even heard one pundit say that an Edwards win in Iowa would be meaningless. They seem to think that he’s bad for ratings. Whether he’d be good for the country is something they don’t give a fuck about.
If Bloomberg were to throw his hat in, certainly NOT as VP for Hillary, all bets are off, eh? But it would put the choice of VP for any Dem candidate at a critical juncture, ’cause his candidacy wouldn’t stop short of just sucking the GOP runners to a standstill.
My thoughts, seconded. Mike Bloomberg and Chuck Hagel are the ones to watch.
Wapo via Huffpost reporting
Moderates Unite! Bloomberg to Lead Unity Government Summit
That’s a serious list of prominent formers.
Key word being “former”. While they have some gravitas based on their records, none could win a major election (gov., sen., etc.) this cycle.
booman you really have to get out more
specifically to the south and midwest…the southern midwest…try that one.
this is the most rascist of nations….you cant even begin to understand how much unless you live in rural kentucky, rural south carolina, urban south carolina, southwest florida….i have lived in all these places….hell southern southern nj is hugely racist.
the racism is part of the fabric of life in these places…in most of the country except liberal cities….its intrinsic, institutionalized and normal.
they will NEVER vote for obama….a republican, light skinned black man they may go for…like a colin powel….possibly….but not obama….you are dreaming if you think he is more electable than biden, richardson, clinton or dodd….only kucinich would get less votes than obama.
edwards is going to win the whole thing.
i dont think i have even seen a black person since i got to florida except at the airport.
all i see around me are billboards with tiny white fetuses on them.
these people are crazy.
on the other hand its a sunny 81 degrees out and the pool is 95.
What would you be willing to bet on that hypothesis? If Obama is the nominee and the GOP nominates anyone other than Huckabee then I’m willing to bet that Obama wins the popular vote by at least 7% and picks up at least two states from the Confederacy.
What do you want to bet on it?
If Huckabee is the GOP nominee then I expect a third-party/independent candidate to surface on the right so the numbers will be skewed – how skewed, I don’t know, but head-to-head I’m sure that Obama will win handily.
im still in florida and was stranded in key west for a few days (not a bag place to get stranded except for the drunks whom i cant tolerate) so i didnt get to reply to this post from oscar.
and now its the day after iowa and i was wrong and maybe oscar is right.
if oscar is right i will send him a big cheesesteak from philly, and not one from those crappy genos and pats joints…..i’ll send him a good one.
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What would you be willing to bet on that hypothesis? If Obama is the nominee and the GOP nominates anyone other than Huckabee then I’m willing to bet that Obama wins the popular vote by at least 7% and picks up at least two states from the Confederacy.
What do you want to bet on it?
Edwards comes across as fake at least to me. I’m sorry but he does. He lost that freaking debate to Cheney when Kerry had just torn Bush up and I can’t forgive unless he is the Dem nominee then I’ll vote for him over the fascist nominee.
Obama comes across as honest and smart I like him a lot. If we can survive bush (if?) we can survive an Obama learning curve for sure. I feel like he is a good man.
1.Biden 2.Obama 3.Dodd because electability is very important and every Democratic candidate is light years ahead of the fascist seers and snake handlers.