So the breaking news banner on CNN (online and on TV) is touting the fact that the House has passed a stimulus package which includes tax rebates for individuals and families.
While I haven’t seen the final numbers that are in the bill, nor do I know if the Senate will pass a similar bill, NOR do I know who will be eligible for these rebates, I can tell you that the whole idea of tax rebates are no different than putting a band aid on a gaping chest wound.
There are so many things wrong with a quick temporary “fix”, which may very well help some (or many) families in the short term – whether it be paying bills or whatever else they may do with the rebate checks. For starters, as bonddad and a number of others have written about extensively, the economy is pretty much completely in the shitter – no matter what metrics you look at. There was just another article today that indicated the housing market “downturn” has yet to hit bottom. People are paying their mortgage with their credit cards and then can’t pay their credit card bills. It won’t be long before people go into default on their credit cards (if they haven’t already) and then can’t pay their mortgage.
The price of oil has skyrocketed, sending the price of gas, food and just about anything else that either uses gas or oil or petroleum based “products” to make or transport through the roof. The dollar is weaker than it was last week, which is weaker than the week before that, which was weaker than the week, month and year before that – which may only be good for foreign tourism since goods are still cheaper than they are in other countries – even in Canada.
Of course, the whole “you can’t get into or out of this country without being violated in at least two or three different ways” has put a crimp into that as well.
But I digress.
Let’s look at what the likely use of these “rebate checks” will be. I can think of a few categories, and what the likely result is (short term, medium term and long term). As the missus said to me this morning – it really doesn’t matter who gets these checks or what they are used for – they will just go right back into the pockets of Bush and his cronies. and you thought I could get riled up…..
The smart thing to do would be, of course, to deal with the root causes of this recession as opposed to a small band aid patch, most of which ultimately will not be used for anything that will be a mid to long term solution.
Tax rebates being used to pay down debt
OK, so some people will use this to pay off some debt. It could be credit card debt, it could be part of a past due bill for heating, telephone, medical bills, rent or mortgage. So where does all of the money that each lucky individual gets ultimately go to?
Yup – the same corporate interests that are at the root of the problem for higher credit card interest rates, the banks that had a big hand in the housing crisis, the oil, phone or utility companies or the insurance companies who are overbilling the ones who are lucky enough to be insured but are denying claims.
How does this help those who really need help – not just a few hundred dollars that won’t even begin to address the underlying causes of their trouble?
Tax rebates being saved
If someone is at the income level where they are eligible for a rebate and can actually stash some of it away, that doesn’t go back into the economy and therefore won’t do much to address the underlying issue here. Coupled with the declining dollar, these savings may not be worth all that much in the grand scheme of things – especially if nothing is done to strengthen the value of the dollar vs. gold and other countries’ forms of currency.
Tax rebates being used for additional current expenses
Maybe now people can afford another tank of gas, or another gallon of milk. Of course, the higher gas prices has contributed to the higher cost of, well, gas – not to mention milk and many other items that I noted above. Once again, there is nothing that will contribute to addressing the root cause of the higher gas prices, higher food prices or higher price of utility bills, and may other items that most people need on a day to day basis.
So who wins with these rebates? Short term, maybe people have one less mortgage payment to worry about, or one less creditor banging on their door, or one less credit agency who is harassing them, or may be able to actually pay for heat during the winter.
But, where does this money ultimately go? And who does this actually help? And what underlying problem or cause does this really address? And of course, how will this be paid for and who will ultimately bear the brunt of the costs?
Mid term, this will not help anyone – other than those who will be on the receiving end of the checks that millions of Americans will now be able to write. Long term, this is yet another disaster in a long line of disasters from short sighted thinking and behavior.
This “stimulus package”, regardless of what final form it ultimately takes, will NOT stimulate anything other than the profits of the credit card companies, the banks, the oil companies and anyone else who will be receiving the ultimate benefit of the lion’s share of these rebates (and of course, business tax cuts too – for the double benefit for corporate interests).
It is nothing more than a bad shell game and yet another cruel joke on We the People.
It’s more like sticking an axe into a gaping chest wound. Record deficits are not addressed by cutting taxes. I know this is anathema to the essentially adolescent world-view of the Republicans, but you have to pay back what you owe.
It’s like that, but with the band aid made out of skin you ripped off a different part of your body. It’s money that we don’t have now and will have to be obtained in some way later.
I think Huckabee actually had it right in the last Republican debate when he said we’re going to borrow money from china to give rebates to people so that they can buy more stuff from China, and then wondered aloud exactly whose economy was being stimulated.
Hucklebee’s comment was one of the few flashes of sanity in that entire debate. His suggestion to use the money to rebuild I-95 (down the east coast) was at least an attempt to solve more than one problem — infrastructure repair and jobs, and keeping the money INSIDE the country.
Since a lot of our infrastructure IS in need of serious work and the construction industries are stalled right now because of the housing bubble collapsing, putting money into public works and infrastructure would actually be an idea worth exploring. (Also discussing what we wil need in a 21st century infrastructure as opposed to simply re-paving the 1950s highway system, too.)
A stiulous bill that does NOT address the unemployment situation in this country is a effing joke. Don’t think for one moment that the published rate is correct. Remember that once you use up your benefits you aren’t even counted!
The House passes the bill and now the Senate gets it. Lets see what they will come up with. That piece of shit pelosi just caved and now, it’s Reids turn. Call, write, fax your senators– Unemployed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Food Stamps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For crying out loud. Don’t these bastards get it? If you ain’t got shit and someone gives you 20.00 bucks, are you gonna pay down your debts or put it into the bank? Not a effing chance. You are gonna spend it instantly!! And isn’t it just what they are all looking for?
God, I can’t stand any of them! Not a one!
The greatest “stimulus package” that Congress could give the American people is responsible governance which doesn’t pour hundreds of millions of dollars and thousands of lives down an endless rathole in the Middle East. To call this a stimulus package is the biggest joke imaginable. It won’t do one thing to address the root causes of our problems. Just like Bush’s command to “GO SPEND MONEY” to fight terrorism, this money is nothing but a smoke and mirrors bribe to make the American people think that the government is actually doing something about their concerns.
Borrow more money to give to those who have already borrowed so much that they don’t have any money of their own left. Reward all us who have a negative savings rate already. What an absolute crock of shit.
How about some accountability? How about punishing those in the corporate world who helped lie us into this mess through their greed? That would be a HUGE stimulus package for me.
The whole thing is a crass maneuver by people who are out-of-touch.
before I get into what should be done, i need to know: will this rebate be counted as taxable income? and will this rebate, delivered in 2008, be deducted from my 2009 refund? I’m asking because that seemed to be the case with the $300 extra I got during Bush’s first round of tax cuts.
If the Senate and the House were serious about providing a fix, they would repeal the Bankruptcy Bill of 2005, or at least its worst provisions. As I’ve said at the bitter spiteful place
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Get rid of that horrible provision that allows usury, and go back to regulating the rates the CCC’s can charge, and people will be better positioned to pay their bills and improve their credit. When people’s bills are paid and their credit looks good, they can go back to buying useless crap again.
It’s not that difficult a concept.
Yes and yes.
You get to borrow from next-year you. It’s a very short term stimulus that will hurt us in the long run.
Off topic– another gooper quitting! Mo 9th! How many now?26, 27??
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Billions in Stimulus Miss the People Who Need It Most (the Daytona Beach News-Journal (Florida))
Somewhere this afternoon I also read (and can’t remember where) a comment by Rep. Keith Ellison to the effect that if Bush really wanted to provide economic stimulus to this country, he’d end the war and bring the troops home. Can’t argue with that…
This isn’t a stimulus package so much as a bribe… and an excuse to give tax rebates to businesses who will likely NOT use it to stimulate the economy. Those who would most need the assistance aren’t going to get much (if anything) at all.
It’s interesting that progressives on the Left and conservatives on the Right have a pretty similar view of this, yet most are so afraid we are headed into a recession they will do anything, even really stupid stuff, on the chance it will avoid a recession.
Rush was yammering on last week that this was simply either a transfer of wealth from those who won’t get checks (the rich) to those who will (middle class and poor)and/or a transfer of wealth from our kids to the Chinese to repay the new debt.
Either way it is putting money in the economy that is either already there or could have been invested in increased productivity (i.e. true wealth creation)
The crime of it is we are in this mess largely because rates were kept too low too long early in the decade out of a downturn.
Moreover, while banking and housing are a wreck other area are not. Durable goods orders were up 6% in December. No one expected that.
It is just vote buying by incumbents with our own money and credit.
Short-term it will prevent a liquidity crisis. Some bills will get paid. Some sales will be made. But is the economic problem of the moment a liquidity crisis? Not to my knowledge. It is a wage and salary crisis. Until that is fixed, we are economically up the creek and even the rich will begin to feel the pinch.
The sooner we admiut we’re due for recessionary pain, the less deep it’ll be, and the sooner it bottoms out. We gave Junior our credit cards, and we’re stuck with the bill.