Open Thread

Things are getting weird when Joe Klein starts making sense.

12 Comments

priscianus jr on October 31, 2008 at 12:07 pm

With all respect, Boo, Klein’s been making sense for the several months now.

priscianus jr on October 31, 2008 at 12:08 pm

Sorry, that should have been “the last several months now.”

idredit on October 31, 2008 at 12:36 pm

yeah Klein was thrown off the McCain plane and bus.

and as for the Khalidi smear, it’ll be difficult for McCain to hold his head high. Even the JTA (Jewish Telegraph Agency – The Global News Service of the Jewish People ) has stepped up to the plate to set the record stright:

Khalidi and the PLO

Starting in 1988, intermittently at first and then routinely from the launch of the Oslo talks in 1993, U.S. presidents have waived bans on contacts with the Palestine Liberation Organization.

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Now, however, in the dying, damning days of an election campaign, we’ve somehow been DeLoreaned back to the 1980s and contact with the group has become radioactive, even though the Israeli government, with full Bush administration blessing, is scrambling to come to a peace agreement with Mahmoud Abbas, who is still the PLO’s leader.

So here’s the thing: What everyone acknowledges is that Khalidi was an adviser to the Palestinian delegation to the 1991 Madrid talks. That delegation – to a person – could not have had any formal affiliation with the PLO. Israel regarded the group as terrorist and its laws banned contact with its members; then-Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir made NOT being affiliated with the PLO it a condition of Israel’s agreement to participate. The names of the Palestinian team would have been vetted by Israeli intelligence.

“Seventeen years ago,” once upon a time, didn’t mean ancient history; one would expect older members of the McCain team to remember what was, at the time, a critical step in getting the sides to Madrid. The younger folks I can forgive and educate (Michael Goldfarb, consider yourself educated.)

McCain is so desperate, I’m listening up. Soon it’ll be palling around with holstein cows and Angus beef.

anarchronarchist on October 31, 2008 at 12:47 pm

Phillies, Phillies, Phillies, Phillies.

Phillies.

(Biggest Parade in City History Occurs)

Salunga on October 31, 2008 at 8:08 pm

Best fans in the world!

anarchronarchist on October 31, 2008 at 1:03 pm

.. and a Financial Meltdown…

.. But did anyone notice that we’ve attacked 2 sovereign nations in the last week?

Syria
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,444199,00.html

Pakistan
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27473526/

The more things change…

….sigh….

americanforliberty on October 31, 2008 at 2:17 pm

Elizabeth Dole fakes opponents voice in TV ad and calls Kay Hagan un-Christian.

http://news.aol.com/elections/article/religion-jab-makes-senate-race-nastier/233471

Will this too be McCain’s last charge against Obama.

robertdsc on October 31, 2008 at 2:41 pm

Could anyone please help me with an Obama-related position?

I’m arguing against a push by someone who says that Obama supports partial-birth abortion. I’ve said that he opposes it if the law in question does not have an allowance for the life of the mother.

In basic terms, what does this mean? From my reading, I can get an outline that seems to say that if the exception is not allowed, then the law in question could be used to take down all abortions. I’m not entirely sure on any of this.

Any help would be appreciated.

americanforliberty on October 31, 2008 at 2:43 pm

Sarah Palin…you have no choice no matter what..
Joyful Alternative on October 31, 2008 at 7:19 pm

My understanding is that “partial birth abortion” is a made-up term (like “death tax” for inheritance tax) for a procedure done late in pregnancy, rarely, to save the woman’s life. There is an alternative late abortion method, but it’s much more dangerous to the woman’s health.

So the end result of this legislation is that a few late-term abortions will still be done, as necessary, just like before, but the surgery that will be done has higher morbidity and mortality rates; just as many abortions will be done, but more women will die or suffer injury.

Any experts please correct me.