It’s interesting that the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) designated the Family Research Center (FRC) as a hate group and now sees no real distinction between them and the Aryan Nation groups. Unsurprisingly, the FRC has responded with fury. They point with righteous indignation to their recent political successes:
The Left’s smear campaigns of conservatives is also being driven by the clear evidence that the American public is losing patience with their radical policy agenda as seen in the recent election and in the fact that every state, currently more than thirty, that has had the opportunity to defend the natural definition of marriage has done so. Earlier this month, voters in Iowa sent a powerful message when they removed three Supreme Court justices who imposed same-sex marriage on the state. Would the SPLC also smear the good people of Iowa?
Yet, the SPLC didn’t focus on the debate over the appropriate definition of marriage. They focused on homophobic statements made by FRC officials. Specifically, they focused on statements made by Peter Sprigg and Tim Dailey.
Both Dailey and Sprigg have pushed false accusations linking gay men to pedophilia (see related story, p. 31): Sprigg has written that most men who engage in same-sex child molestation “identify themselves as homosexual or bisexual,” and Dailey and Sprigg devoted an entire chapter of their 2004 book Getting It Straight to similar material. The men claimed that “homosexuals are overrepresented in child sex offenses” and similarly asserted that “homosexuals are attracted in inordinate numbers to boys.”
More recently, in March 2008, Sprigg, responding to a question about uniting gay partners during the immigration process, said: “I would much prefer to export homosexuals from the United States than to import them.” He later apologized, but then went on, last February, to tell MSNBC host Chris Matthews, “I think there would be a place for criminal sanctions on homosexual behavior.” “So we should outlaw gay behavior?” Matthews asked. “Yes,” Sprigg replied. At around the same time, Sprigg claimed that allowing gay people to serve openly in the military would lead to an increase in gay-on-straight sexual assaults.
They also note that current FRC head Tony Perkins once paid over $80,000 for Klan chief David Duke’s mailing list and has made appearances before the Klan-related Council of Conservative Citizens. So, the designation of the FRC as a hate group is not based on their views on marriage, but on their propensity to pal around with white supremacists while spreading vile lies about gay behavior and calling for their deportation.
On the other hand, it’s hard not to see the designation as in some respects political in nature. The dealings with racist groups are quite old: those cited occurred in 1996 and 2001. While the outbursts of Peter Sprigg and Tim Dailey are not necessarily representative of the FRC, at least not as their ‘official’ positions. This does seem like a new development for the SPLC. They are expanding the scope of what they consider a hate group from what it has been historically. Here is how they justify it:
Generally, the SPLC’s listings of these groups is based on their propagation of known falsehoods — claims about LGBT people that have been thoroughly discredited by scientific authorities — and repeated, groundless name-calling. Viewing homosexuality as unbiblical does not qualify organizations for listing as hate groups.
And to expand on that:
SPLC Research Director Heidi Beirich told me the FRC is part of a growing list of what the SPLC calls anti-gay groups masking themselves under the guise of conservatism or Christianity.
“What this really is is a wholesale defamation attack on gays and lesbians,” Beirich said. “Some of the stuff is just as crude if you compare it to, say, the Klan’s racism. But a lot of it’s a little more sophisticated and they try to make it more scientific even though what they’re pushing are falsehoods.”
…As Beirich told me, there is no difference between the FRC and the KKK in the eyes of the SPLC now…
I asked her if a Republican choosing to address the FRC convention next year would be making the same choice as one who addressed an Aryan Nation rally.
“Yeah,” she told me. “What we’re saying is these [anti-gay] groups perpetrate hate — just like those [racist] organizations do.”
Ms. Beirich did clarify that she doesn’t think all supporters of the FRC are aware of or necessarily agree with the organization’s hateful anti-gay message and that they may be primarily attracted to their evangelical purpose. That distinction alone, it seems to me, makes it quite a reach to say that making a speech before the FRC is no different than making one before the Aryan Nation.
It’s pretty hard to get me to say a word in the defense of the Family Research Council but I don’t see them as in the same league as the Klan. But even if I see a bit of irrational exuberance and false equivalence here, that doesn’t mean that I disagree with the overall point, which is that the FRC is spewing lies that foster hate and that can lead to and be used to justify violence against gays. It goes beyond a mere disagreement about the proper legal definition of marriage.
Whether this will hurt the credibility of the SPLC as much as that of the FRC remains to be seen. It will certainly lead the right to make a loud and concerted effort to brand the SPLC as a purely political organization that serves the left. But, at the same time, politicians now have to consider whether they want to appear before a group that has been designated by the SPLC as a hate group. It should be remembered that the SPLC earned its sterling reputation by using civil law suits to all but destroy the Ku Klux Klan. That’s not a group and a reputation that you want to going up against.
My hope is that the SPLC doesn’t get marginalized and lose its moral authority over this, and that the FRC cleans up its act and polices itself better so that they are not allowing hate speech to get co-mingled with their political mission. I vehemently disagree with their positions on social issues, including gay rights, but I can distinguish between political differences and hate. Maybe this humiliating rebuke will get the FRC to make those distinctions better in the future.
Essentially, they define a lot of groups as “hate” groups, and their definition is quite loose. Plus, the director and asst director of the SLPC make 350K, and this is all from contributions. I am beginning to think that the SLPC is a big fat scam.
have you been watching Fox?
Nope. You comfortable with Dees making 350K?
I am. That amounts to $175 an hour. Not an outrageous salary for being the trial lawyer for an organization like SPLC.
Lawyers’ rates are not cheap. And he has to hobnob with the legal class in order to have a good shot at winning his cases. Networking is a big thing in attracting donors and in building cases.
This information was not an issue until SPLC issued a list of hate groups that included the Family Research Council and other groups who have been fanning the flames of homophobia.
Back in the day, prominent Alabamans associated with the KKK tried the same sort of smear job.
Morris Dees earns every penny of that money. Unlike the folks at some nonprofits.
SPLC has become the new ACORN for the right. They are pushing a story that SPLC parks cash in the Caymans and that Morris Dees lives a lavish lifestyle. Of course, that is routine projection for the right. One might investigate when FRC parks cash and inquire into the lifestyle of its “great way to make a living” acolytes.
This attack on Dees is intended to dry up donations to SPLC. Make sure that it doesn’t succeed.
The Southern Poverty Law Center has been fighting the War On Terror for as long as I can remember. With enough support, they won’t get marginalized.
Exposure and embarrasment is a potent weapon in this battle – conflict always gets the front page treatment. It’s good to see somebody push the envelope.
I certainly regard the creatures at the helm of the Family Research Council as every bit as hateful as those who ran the KKK. Sure, they don’t act out on their hateful impulses by physically attacking the objects of their intolerance and derision, but then the high-mucky-mucks in the KKK weren’t necessarily the ones who went out and directly murdered those they hated either. They, like the FRC leaders, were content to weaponize the ignorance of their followers and whip them up into a frenzy so they’d go out and actually do the crimes.
In the case of the FRC, they have already done enormous damage on the political front with regard to their anti-abortion-rights efforts and these attempts to deprive women of the decisionmaking authority over their own bodies is not only aggressively hateful in its own way but is an expression of their belief-based authoritarianism that is anathema to the very concept of democracy. To my mind, there’s plenty of hate and resentment wrapped up in all that.
It is unfortunate that we are now in this rightwing-ascendant period again, a period of sharp and highly destructive decline in our country and in the broader world at large. In times like these it’s inevitable that organizations like the Southern Poverty Law Center will be vilified, and because the public is fearful and uncertain, they’ll be more inclined to go along with the smear-based propaganda.
“hate” and “a political opinion with which I do not agree”. And they go a long way to blurring the difference between them.
It is NOT appropriate to use the term “hate” for “political difference”.
dataguy, I am not conflating hate with political difference. I am refering to the visceral animus that drives the zealots aggression. Amongst the anti-abortion rights crowd there is palpable hatred for the women who seek abortions and the doctors who perform them. In the homophobic world the hatred and resentment, (and fear), of ‘the gay’ is just as vicious. Line up your liberals, ACLU people, foreigners, non-Christians, (especially Muslims and Jews, the 2 competing Abrahamic religions), and the amount of hatred aimed at all of these groups is truly astounding.
These hatreds and fears, and the people who weaponize the ignorance of others with them,(people like Tony Perkins of FRC and Dobson and Hagee, etc.), are the proximate cause of what is characterized as ‘political differences’ on these subjects.
Hatred and Fear=Cause:
Murder and Political Difference=Effect
The discourse in this country has been coarsened beyond all recognition because people who count are too timid to call the perpetrators on what they say. And as rejection of these hateful views have been muted–for whatever reason–the volume of hate has been amplified until it drowns out everything else. Now we have Rush Limbaugh, Beck and the rest no longer bothering to use dog whistles; they come right out with unvarnished sexist, religiously bigoted and racist rants, and no one in the MSM (outside of a few on MSNBC) makes a peep, even a timid one.
I say good on the folks at the SPLC, and let’s have a lot more of it until the haters learn there may be a price to pay for their odious behavior.
Oh yeah, and for the commenter above who begrudges Dees his salary, how much would it take for you to pin a target on your back for every militia, Klan, and right wing hater in the nation to take a shot at?
Absolutely correct!
sorry BooMan, I was thrilled when the SPLC called out the FRC. Yes, they are filled with enough hate to qualify.
A better analogy of the FRC is with the White Citizens Councils, now called the Conservative Citizens Councils. Their role was to spread pseudo-scientific justifications for discrimination and to recruit people to opposing changes in the Civil Rights laws. It is no coincidence that folks who murdered civil rights workers in the South were members or local leaders of the White Citizens Councils, just as it is no coincidence that the folks who murder abortion doctors are members of Operation Rescue.
The leadership of these hate organizations get to nod-nod, wink-wink and pocket the dues as a part of their entrepreneurial venture. But they make their largesse off of speaking engagements, books, and other products and only take a couple hundred thousand out of the organization. But their assistants also take between $100K and $200K out of the organization. And they also have other enterprises. The executive bill can come in at several million dollars.
Yaaaaaawwwwwnnn……
Most Tea Partiers could give a rat’s butt about someone’s sexual orientation…
Hmmm…give me a choice between a gay person who thinks that individuals should keep most of the money they earn, and a heterosexual who feels that the Government is entitled to expropriates most of what people earn (tax?) (steal?)(oh…between 40 or 60 percent, depending on what State He or She creates wealth in)…
As a radical, heterosexual, right-winger…I’ll take the gay Homosexual over the Heterosexual!!!
I’ll take the gay person!!!
“As a radical, heterosexual, right-winger…I’ll take the gay Homosexual over the Heterosexual!!!” Well, now we know but this is not about being gay, it’s about hate, you know, you being a libertarian and all with their ties to neo-Nazi hate groups (see the Rand Paul family and Sharon Angle). The FRC was not designated a hate organization because of saying that being gay is unbiblical or any opposition to gay marriage but because of what they are doing as an organization. If an organization’s leaders are going to advocate harm to a group of people such as wanting them jailed or deported based on statements and beliefs that are proved over and over to be false, then, that organization is a hate organization. This is not a political issue but a civil rights issue. There is no difference between going after people because they’re Jewish, because their skin is black or brown or because of their sexual orientation or gender expression. Any organization advocating hate, especially ones injecting themselves into politics giving politicians a platform must be called out for what it is even when it tries to hide inside a religious and/or conservative context.
Germany allowed hate organizations to flourish for political gain with disastrous results. This should be a lesson for us because it will be a disaster for us as well if we let it continue. Stopping these hate organizations by not allowing any politicians to use their resources to make political gain from hate without cost is important beyond any political opinion, even yours.
I just saw Potok and Perkins together on Olbermann (Monday, Nov. 29). The transcript won’t be up till tomorrow so I’ll summarize:
Potok points out that the Hate Group classification is used for groups that knowingly promulgate disinformation used to promote hate.
Perkins denies that the official stance of FRC is what Sprigg states but immediately muddies the water by apparently retracting his denial, using a classic non-denial denial technique by eliding past the point while appearing to deny it. He states that the Texas decision overturning the law against sodomy was wrongly decided but FRC isn’t for legal action to change the result. I’m not sure what they could do at this point, so it’s deceptive sounding, but the gist of his comment was that they’re willing to accept the status quo but are still for criminalizing sodomy.
Perkins is your classic oily politician-lawyer type (sorry Booman) who misleads or lies every time he opens his mouth so it’s hard to find concrete statements that can be shown to be true or false. His comments were the standard Overton window diatribe about extremism on the left and other Republican talking points. He closes by citing the American College of Pediatricians’s stance on homosexuality, so he’s not backing down on the pedophilia claims that Potok cites as an example of FRC’s ‘hate disinformation.’
Also, Perkins refers to a “peer-reviewed” study that supports the contentious higher pedophilia claim. My impression was that he was citing something like Kinsey, which was drawn from a prison population and therefore not representative in certain respects.