Burning books is stupid. Getting mad about burned books is stupid. Killing people who had nothing to do with burning any books because you’re mad that a book got burned? That’s World Champion Stupid. It’s especially stupid because the moron preacher from Florida only had something like 30 congregants that he could pull together for his little game with matches. You’re going to kill random people because of what happened in someone’s living room on the other side of the world?
I feel badly for everyone who died or sustained injuries, but I feel especially badly for the five Nepalese guards who were killed. They were killed with their own weapons because they refused to use them on unarmed protesters. They went to work for the United Nations and this is their reward. It makes me angry, frankly.
The people who work for the UN in Afghanistan aren’t too happy about it.
Foreigners committed to assisting in the rebuilding of Afghanistan have long accepted the possibility that they might die at the hands of warring parties, but this degree of violence from ordinary citizens is not something most of us factored into our decision to work here…
…This is not the beginning of the end for the international community in Afghanistan. This is the end. Terry Jones and others will continue to pull anti-Islam stunts and opportunistic extremists here will use those actions to incite attacks against foreigners. Unless we, the internationals, want our guards to fire on unarmed protestors from now on, the day has come for us to leave Afghanistan.
And then there’s this:
The act drew little response worldwide, but provoked angry condemnation in this region, where it was reported in the local media and where anti-American sentiment already runs high. Last week, President Asif Ali Zardari of Pakistan condemned the burning in an address before Parliament, and President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan on Thursday called on the United States to bring those responsible for the Koran burning to justice.
A prominent Afghan cleric, Mullah Qyamudin Kashaf, the acting head of the influential Ulema Council of Afghanistan and a Karzai appointee, also called for American authorities to arrest and try Mr. Jones in the Koran burning.
I’m all for showing some basic respect for other people’s religious faith, but every last one of these jerks can kiss my ass. This is America, and we can burn any damn book we want any damn time we want. No one is going to arrest this fruitcake for burning a book and the fact that you think that we should arrest him means that you don’t understand the first thing about what it means to live in a free society with freedom of conscience. The dumb preacher got a bunch of innocent people killed, but only because a bunch of equally dumb people decided to murder people who had no responsibility or relationship to the man who instigated their ire. And who kills someone for burning a book? I don’t care that the book is sacred. It was probably published in New York before it sat in a Border’s warehouse for months waiting for some religious nutjob to buy it. Just like any other book, it was lit ablaze when the temperature hit 451 degrees fahrenheit. Allah didn’t intervene to prevent the burning, so it must have been something he felt like he had under control. I hope he isn’t the kind of guy who thinks his honor is protected by butchering UN aid workers.
You know what would also be stupid? If I responded to all this by killing the next five short people I see. I’ll just kill them and say I did it because it made as much sense to do it as it did to burn a Koran…or kill people because a Koran was burned. Why not? If you look at it just right, you know they had it coming.
Terry Jones and the people who committed these murders are blood brothers. Their world views are almost identical, save for minor details about the names of their mythical gods.
True, but Jones started this. With malice of forethought, I would add, as there is no way he did not know the likely consequences.
hear hear, idiocy amok.
what i don’t get is why yelling fire in a crowded theatre is a crime, while burning a koran isn’t.
i bet jones would object to bibles getting burned.
children with matches, looking for attention mommy and daddy didn’t give them.
jones is a religion-addled moron, as bad as any other foamer from any other camp.
now we need a sternly worded latter from obama to round things off.
My feelings exactly.
Thank heavens I`m almost 6 feet tall.
(on all sides – be they book burners or shooters or beheaders)
is exactly why we’ll never meet space fairing aliens.
We are simply too stupid to visit…
Well said.
What the UN release says hits on an important point.
And in Pakistan as well as Afghanistan it is mullahs and other leaders who have been whipping up the frenzy for some narrow political gain for themselves. In particular the leaders of Pakistan know better. They know our freedoms and laws. They probably understand how isolated Jones really is in the US too. In the assignment of guilt, they get a major cut.
I hate it when people live down to negative stereotypes.
Terry Jones and the clerics who preached their outrage and produced this violence have a symbiotic relationship.
My suspicion is that the clerics need for this outrage is because sentiment in Afghanistan is moving away from religious conservatism. This is a political attempt to yank it back.
Terry Jones is an entrepreneurial preacher who is losing. How he supports himself should be a question for investigation if he only has 30 congregants.
The question of stupid is beside the point if this one act results in a cascade of events that causes precipitous withdrawal of US troops and a “cut and run” narrative from the US right wing.
My current understanding (limited) of what is going on in Afghanistan is that this is not likely to happen. And that the fact that the US in the midst of a real and orderly withdrawal from a more and more stable Afghanistan (folks do tire of constant war) is driving folks who oppose the Kabul government to seek ways to lock in the US presence in Afghanistan. Without a persistent US presence, a lot of the political organization talking points go away.
However if these protests become serious insurgency (there is one going on as I write in Kandahar according to AJE), and if this delays US disengagement or causes another surge, the stupid will have won.
I loved (and shared) what you had to say. This one is a toughie, because there are no heroes and everyone’s at fault. I mean, to criticize Terry Jones will be equated with siding with murderers: No win.
I almost feel like the only response would be for Obama (yeah, right, I wish) or anyone prominent to speak in front of a pile of 5000 burning American flags and say, “Not one of these symbols is worth the taking of a single human life. Who cares!? Grow up, people! We can look upon this blaze and it is painful but we can withstand it. It is not the same as losing human beings… Are the flames good and high now? Ok, thrown on the Bibles!”
I love this scenario. I especially love what comes next, which is wingnut blood vessels bursting and heads exploding all over the country.
Hey, a person can dream, right?