As Matthew Goldstein and Jennifer Ablan report for Reuters, many of the people who work on Wall Street are in denial or simply befuddled about why they are on the receiving end of so much vitriol. Let’s start with a simple fact.
In New York City, the average pay for those working in finance is $361,183, more than five times the average salary of $66,106 for all workers in the city, according to the New York State Department of Labor.
Those making $361,183 a year are in the highest marginal tax bracket. Now, let’s move to another fact.
[The Bush tax cuts] are a defining issue at the heart of the broad ideological argument between the two parties. They were central during the 2010 elections, and they will again be central in 2012. They are a key cause of our current fiscal problems, and now they’re at the center of the supercommittee’s likely failure to do anything to solve those problems.
They are at the center of the GOP’s supercommittee’s demands; indeed, keeping them in place is one of the primary motivations driving the current overall conduct of the Republican Party.
The supercommittee is, of course, charged with trimming $1.2 trillion from the federal budget over the next ten years. As of today, they are going to fail to come to any agreement over those cuts, largely because the Republicans insist that the people in the highest tax bracket not have to share any of the cost or burden of those cuts. Instead, they want people to work longer before they are eligible for Medicare, and the want to reduce the value of people’s Social Security checks by tweaking how the cost of living adjustment is calculated. They want to slash money for Medicaid. And they want to trim money from programs that help people in need.
These facts alone explain why people are growing angry with the most affluent people in our country. But these facts are only the tip of the iceberg. We haven’t even considered why we need to make such drastic cuts in our budget. The tax cuts are one of the biggest reasons our deficit just exceeded $15 trillion. But we also launched a war in Iraq that wasn’t paid for and that had no justification. We mismanaged the war in Afghanistan, and didn’t pay for it either. We passed a prescription drug benefit for Medicare that was needlessly expensive because it didn’t allow for negotiated prices for bulk purchases. And it wasn’t paid for either. Everything has been getting put on the nation’s credit card and now there is a gigantic bill to pay with lots and lots of interest.
The revolt is largely over who should pay that bill. Should it be old ladies on a fixed income? Should it be construction workers who have to work two more years of hard labor before qualifying for Medicare? Should it be college students who have less access to college grants and loans? Or should it be the most affluent among us who have not only been growing wealthier as the rest of us grow poorer, but who work in an industry that is responsible for destroying many millions of our jobs and much of the value of our retirement accounts?
On some level, this debate gets clouded by an argument about how best to create economic growth. The Republicans argue that people in the highest tax brackets are also the people most likely to create new jobs. Let them keep more of their money and they’ll use it to invest and expand their businesses; take more of their money and none of the job creation will occur. It’s a mistake to even engage in that debate. The proper question is “who is responsible for this credit card bill?” Who ought to pay the bill?
For the last decade, the most affluent people in this country have been enjoying a massive tax break. And they got much richer as a result. They need to pay the bill. And, as long as they use the Republicans’ power to obstruct to avoid paying their fair share, they are going to see the people’s wrath grow and grow and grow.
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thanks, Mike. I appreciate the compliment.
Not to defend the Wall Streeters, but that average salary could be a combo of five people making billions and 5,000 making $80,000.
It’s actually more likely to work the other way around: the overall average of 66k for NYC workers includes the Wall Street workers, which skews the average. It’s more likely that the gap is 6-7x, not 5x, as in, without the financial workers the overall NYC average drops into the 50-60k range.
One might ask why they haven’t created more jobs already.
Exactly. They’ve had their effing ‘Bush tax cut’ for years now. Where are they jobs?!
I was about to make the same point when I saw your comments. Its a myth the wealthy create more jobs with their money than the state or the poor would if the same money was earned (and spent) by them. The wealthy spend money on imported luxuries, on outsourcing jobs, in tax shelters, and on frivolous projects which benefit no one else.
The Government and the poor, on the other hand, tend to spend money on basic necessities, on goods and services with a high local labour content, and on infrastructural development and education and training which expands the productive capacity of the economy. The famous multiplier effect is simply much higher for such spending and investment.
Any dumb idiot can inherit lots of money and waste it without accountability to anyone. The state and the poor have to think about and justify almost every cent they spend. And so I disagree radically with Booman on this. It is a class argument that says the rich are better at creating jobs just because a few job creators get rich. The rich are they most inefficient users of wealth because they have no need to use it efficiently or effectively and they are insulated from the effects of their actions.
I also disagree with Booman that they key argument is a moral one about who ought to pay – in revenge for some breaks they got or misbehaviours they committed in the past. Taxation isn’t about punishing anyone. Its about distributing wealth so it can be used most effectively to achieve key societal goals of economic growth, public health, human development, and social justice.
Why should dumb rich people be better can creating jobs than smart public servants when they have no particular incentive or need to create jobs? You can only use so many servants… It is the fundamental ideology of rich-=smart=job creators which must be challenged. The more unequal the US has become, the worse it has become at actually creating jobs. Those eras with the greatest equality were also the years of the highest levels of employment.
Geez, where are we ever going to find the money?
http://www.stateofworkingamerica.org/pages/interactive#/?start=2003&end=2007
you are so on point, BooMan.
so on point
Good points, but I think it leaves out what I hope is the real heart of the matter: runaway inequality/unfairness in the distribution of the national wealth or economic justice as it was called back when such things were still on the radar. The issue includes, but goes beyond, the question of who is responsible for the credit card bill.
It goes to the question of why we allow a system to exist that sets the value of a Lloyd Blankfein or Jamie Diamond, or for that matter a Bill Gates or LeBron James at millions or thousands of times more than the average teacher, carpenter, or clerk. As far as I know, the US is the only “advanced society” that fails to control the absurdity of market-determination of human value, either through tax policy or through direct income controls. I think Occupy’s best contribution of all is that it has brought attention to this fundamental issue for the first time in decades. For that alone it deserves the unwavering help and support of anyone who does not worship the destructiveness wrought by American economic royalism.
For what it’s worth, Thom Hartmann recently claimed that in Japan the CEO to worker pay ratio is 10x and in Germany it’s 11x. Now in Japan, the big conglomerates are owned by families who probably take their wealth in dividends instead of pay. There’s no reason for a Toyoda, for example, to pay himself $10,000,000 (yen -equivalent) for salary when he owns billions of dollars worth of stock. Don’t know about Germany, but I suspect it’s similar. Here, some hired gunslinger comes in, takes an obscene salary, runs the company into the ground, then gets a golden parachute and moves on to the next suckers.
I don’t have a problem with executives making $360,000 like a specialist doctor. I do have a problem with one million or ten million or 100 million (derivative trader paid out of TARP!).
I don’t have a problem with people making money. I just want them to stop whining and pay their taxes.
I don’t have a problem with people making money.
But they should buy a yacht, not a Congressman.
What mystifies me is WHY the rethugs and their wealthy backers want to drive the country into the third world. Don’t they realize what a disaster that would be for everyone who lives here, which includes them?
They either don’t realize it or they don’t care. They’ve got theirs. As the saying goes, no raindrop believes it is to blame for the flood.
This is a big reason that people were furious at Obama for not letting the Bush tax cuts expire on schedule. It was his one point of strength after the debacle of last year’s election and required no supermajorities or arguing with wavering Blue Dogs.
It’s the Bush tax cuts that are bankrupting the country, not Medicare and Social Security.
True. But just for the record, he traded a 2 year tax cut extension for about $400 billion in extended unemployment benefits, reduced payroll taxes and other stimulus funding.