Who was crying for help seconds before George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin? Not Zimmerman:
Tom Owen, forensic consultant for Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence, used voice identification software to rule out Zimmerman. Another expert contacted by the Sentinel, utilizing different techniques, came to the same conclusion.
Zimmerman claims self-defense in the shooting and told police he was the one screaming for help. But these experts say the evidence tells a different story.
Once again, we have further evidence to suggest that Officer Tim Smith submitted a false police report. His report, which he filed at 3:29 AM on the night of the shooting, has the following exonerating information:
While I was in such close contact with Zimmerman, I could observe that his back appeared to be wet and was covered with grass, as if he had been laying on his back on the ground. Zimmerman was also bleeding from his nose and back of his head.
…Zimmerman was placed in the rear of my police vehicle and given first aid by the SFD [Sanford Fire Department]. While the SFD was attending to Zimmerman, I over heard him state, “I was yelling for someone to help me, but no one would help me.”
Every bit of this exonerating evidence appears to be false. None of it is corroborated by the police report of Ricardo Ayala that was submitted at 2:28 AM. The video of Zimmerman arriving at the police station a mere 34 minutes after the police arrived on the scene shows no evidence of blood on the head, nose, or clothing. It shows no evidence that Zimmerman had received any medical attention. There is no visual evidence of grass or wetness on his jacket. And the experts say that it was not Zimmerman crying for help on the 911 call. It is now time for the Department of Justice to expand their investigation:
Attorneys for the family of slain black teenager Trayvon Martin are asking the U.S. Justice Department to review reports that prosecutors undermined a police investigation of shooter George Zimmerman by overruling a detective who wanted to charge him…
…Lawyers for Martin’s family are preparing a formal request that the federal government also investigate the specific report that state attorney prosecutors interfered with a homicide detective who wanted to charge Zimmerman with manslaughter.
“We are asking the Justice Department to investigate that,” attorney Benjamin Crump, who has been retained by the Martin family as it pressures authorities to arrest Zimmerman, told Reuters late Saturday. “We are concerned about interference in the investigation.”
…Sanford police detective Chris Serino, unconvinced by Zimmerman’s story of self-defense, wanted to charge him with manslaughter but was overruled by the office of State Attorney Norm Wolfinger, the prosecutor whose district includes the city of Sanford, ABC News reported on Tuesday.
Wolfinger has declined all comment since removing himself from the case on March 22…
…A separate report by TheGrio.com, unconfirmed by Reuters, said Wolfinger left his home the Sunday night of the shooting to meet with Sanford police in person.
“Why did he get out of his bed and go to the police station that night and overrule the lead investigator?” Crump said. “It doesn’t fit well.”
Why did Officer Tim Smith insert this exonerating information in his police report at three-thirty in the morning? When did the prosecutor arrive at the police station? Who did the prosecutor talk to prior to setting out for the police department? Why did the prosecutor later recuse himself from the case to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest?
Has the timing of the security video been nailed down yet? Has the CBS report, that it was 4 hour later, been explained?
He arrived at the police station at 7:51 PM.
See, I wasn’t asking you to repeat yourself. I was asking for some reason to conclude that you are right.
I don’t need to repeat myself. I have no idea why the initial report was wrong and feel no compulsion to explain it. He arrived when he arrived. It is not in dispute.
The most likely explanation is the obvious one – that the prosecutor is friends with Zimmerman’s father (a former magistrate), and intervened on his behalf.
It was a bit sloppy, but then, they could never have anticipated that this case would become an international sensation. I doubt they thought anyone outside the family would notice or care. (And that would explain why they didn’t notify the family for three days.) It was just some black kid.
One wonders how many times this sort of thing has happened before – in Sanford or anywhere else – without the public noticing or caring.
Yep. Here is the evidence for that:
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Allow me to contribute an observation that’s bothering me: If Zimmerman was the one on the ground, shooting up to defend himself from Martin’s assault, why isn’t the front of his jacket soaked in Martin’s blood?
Further speculation: If Zimmerman had been on the ground at one point and managed to roll over on top of Martin during the tussle and fired at close range–again–why doesn’t his jacket show blood splatter? Are real bullet wounds as tidy as the ones on TV dramas? Doesn’t blood spurt out as the bullet goes in? Or am I confused by Sam Peckinpah movies? (I don’t want to upset my Vietnam Vet husband by asking.)
It would seem Zimmerman was partly erect straddling his victim or even on his feet by the time he pulled the trigger. I’m haunted by the “whining” sound one of the witnesses reported hearing that was cut short. It suggests there was a moment when Martin saw the gun and Zimmerman had an adrenaline-crazed instant or so before he pulled the trigger.
A bullet wound to the chest can go in quite clean with no blood splatter. The type of bullet will determine what kind of damage it does, and what it hits will determine whether it passes straight through or ricochets around inside the body. If you hit a rib, the bullet may break apart. It’s possible to avoid getting blood on yourself if you shoot from above, and also from below. I guess being below would make it more likely to get blood on yourself, but it’s not certain.
We’re dealing in very low probabilities if Zimmerman’s on the bottom, particularly as it’s my understanding there was no exit wound.
Honestly, the lack of an exit wound says nothing about the position of shooter and victim.
You misunderstood my point.
No exit wound indicates the bullet hit major points (as does the fact that the kid is obviously dead). So a higher likelihood the kid would’ve bled quickly on Zimmerman if Zimmerman is on top.
Scratch that — if Zimmerman is on the bottom.
I don’t get that at all. He might have bled from the mouth, conceivably. But the actual wound would not necessarily issue much blood. Also, I surmise there was no exit wound but I don’t that for a fact.
Okay, you forced me to ask my husband. From his combat experience, he assures me that you are quite wrong.
If Zimmerman was on the bottom in the struggle when he pulled the trigger, he’d be blood soaked. Even a bullet that instantly stops a heart from pumping doesn’t stop gravity–blood would pour from the wound.
If Zimmerman was on top, still struggling and close to his victim, he’d be blood splattered. Apparently, there is an “impact splash”. (Aren’t you sorry to visualize that? I know I am.)
The only way Zimmerman would NOT have blood on his clothing is if he were standing over his victim or standing apart from him. A coroner would need to determine the angle of entry, etc.
Not necessarily. Some types of ammunition are made to break up on impact, so that they do not pass through an obstacle. This makes it safer to use in home defense situations — you don’t want bullets passing through an object and continuing on through to another house. SO it depends on what type of ammo was being used. Re. the expected blood spatter, I’m sure investigators will be testing for that.
That Trayvon “whined” in fear (just can’t bear to listen to the tape) suggests to me Z has major issues that made him snap, because Trayvon must have been without recourse at that moment. Z seems to me to have issues especially because of the reports of his aggression against women (throwing one across the room, a police complaint from his fiancee). I read the women witnesses report as Z was standing up.
I don’t know why these folks don’t do a little homework.
Also, on their first question, Martin only needed to proceed down the walkway about 100 yards to get home. That would mean walking off the bottom of the picture.
What we have is a racist tough guy who chased down the kid to confront him over Walking In My White Neighborhood While Black. He then lost his temper, shot the kid, and relied on his daddy to clean up the mess.
The Sanford PD story has never made sense. The father and Zimmerman have already lied blatantly. The prosecutor’s actions suggest he’s friends with the father.
People have been indicted on a lot less.
could be just Wolfinger is the that way, not necessarily friends with Z’s father. Evidently he was involved with another case, discussed in OS diary to which I link below.
Evidently Wolfinger was involved with another case of security guard shooting http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/31/1079562/-The-Man-Who-Set-a-Killer-Free-
I agree that a bullet hole wound would bleed. But not necessarily profusely. And not necessarily so quickly that it would get on someone on the ground shooting up. And, in any case, the kind of blood spatter you get from a gunshot is generally mist-like and would be very hard to see on that grainy video tape. If he shot him and then the boy collapsed on top of him, that would cause blood to get on his clothing, but the lack of evident blood doesn’t prove his was shooting down.