I hope the Romney campaign is proud of themselves. They have people down in Florida calling folks in the Cuban community and saying things like this when they encounter Obama supporters:
“Pero señora el señor RRONGNEY tiene una familia muy linda. Obama no. Obama tuvo un padre boracho y una madre que no lo quería!”
(but mam Mr RRONGNEY has a beautiful family. Obama doesn’t. Obama had a father who was a drunk and a mother who did not love him!)
RRONGNEY is just the phonetic spelling of the way the caller pronounced ‘Romney.’ I think that it is just shameful that someone from Romney’s campaign would call people and tell them that the president’s mother didn’t love him. And this must be going on a lot.
What a disgrace.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Romney (and his campaign) epitomize the anthesis of every ethical superlative.
Like?
How about the superlative that you are responsible for yourself?
How about the prohibition against slavery?
Can you be more specific? Please put forth a SPECIFIC ethical superlative to which Romney is oppossed.
You’re right, Nick. I should vote for Romney.
Is there a piefilter for this blog?
Don’t feed the troll. His request would require a comprehensive overview of the entire last five years of Romney’s effort to run for president. Troll isn’t worth the time. Troll needs to learn how to use Teh Google.
I didn’t ask for a comprehensive list, I asked for ONE!
Thou shalt not bear false witness
Should the Obama administration apologize for ignoring intelligence indicating that our Consulate in Benghazi had been bombed twice in the 5 months preceding the 9-11 terrorist attacks?
Obama’s error cost four lives.
The country is likely sliding back into recession…
Obama’s toast.
Except for that bit about, you know, Obama having a nearly insurmountable Electoral College lead.
Just hope you aren’t like that guy in Virginia who killed his entire family because he couldn’t face the prospect of another four years with a black president.
Like Carter did on October 2nd, 1980?
Yawn:
Debunking A Myth: Reagan Was Leading Carter Long Before That Final October Debate
From the famed liberal establishment known as OtB’s Doug Mataconis…
Would you like to argue polls, and the likelihood of a Romney win?
Or would like to discuss the utterly amazing juxtaposition of the above post, referring to Romney’s campaign strategy as a disgrace, while articles describing this administration’s handling of ample warnings of an imminent attack on the Benghazi compound is ignored.
I can do either…
Polling…try this…give your green quotes to refute, as oppossed to internalizing the information and writing here in your own font!
No incumbent with a lead less than five percent in any election cycle since polling in 1952 has won re-election. Sorry, with a known quantity (I.e. incumbent), the undecideds do break for the challenger! Look at any given poll… This late in the game, if Obama’s at 49 percent…too close to call.
If he’s at 48, he will lose.
You want to talk about partisan identification and media bias?
Or should we discuss the Obama administration’s disgraceful performance as it relates to foreign policy or economic performance?
Obama does not equal Carter, and Romney is not Reagan, no matter how much you wish for it to be true.
The 1980 business of Reagan coming back big is more legend than fact. He was polling well for quite some time.
http://themonkeycage.org/blog/2012/08/09/what-really-happened-in-the-1980-presidential-campaign/
If you look at that graph, you’d see that Reagan was leading throughout September, and never seriously trailed after May. So perhaps the voters will break for Obama at the end, who has been leading over the same period, just like they did for Reagan.
Look Nick – your trolling provides some comedy and it is fun to watch you and your fellow wingnuts’ desperation as the Romney campaign implodes and your party of traitors disintegrates.
But try to stick to facts. Lies and distortions will earn donuts from now on.
I agree with your assessment…I post here for three reasons…
1) Entertainment.
2). Having recently realized my 46th birthday, and having elder relatives with good physical health but diminishing mental capacity (folks in their upper and eighties and nineties with no physical problems other than dimentia) about which I’m paranoid, understanding that the mind is a muscle that needs to be excercised. This is like running on a treadmill. I can’t good mental exercise posting on a right-wing blog.
3). I can’t help it!
Fixed for clarity.
Randy…good work!
But it doesn’t explain the ability of most from pond inhabitants to refuted arguments…
What about today’s article in the Daily Beast which chronicles this adminstation’s disgraceful performance relating to event precedent to the Benghazi 9-11 terrorist attack?
Have you read it? I could reference it if I had green quote technology mastered!
But it doesn’t explain the ability of most from pond inhabitants to refuted arguments…
Debunking you is no challenge. Understanding linguistic drivel is harder. Are you sauced or off your meds?
I would give yo a quick easy lesson in the Top-Secret Green Quote Technology but I fear you would use it for evil purposes.
He has a point. Read my diary – US Unable to Secure Benghazi Consulate for FBI Investigation. Obama and Clinton better get their act together.
[I added a troll rating to his 1st comment so thread is hidden]
There may be a point, but it is miniscule compared to the intelligence failures of the previous administration; failures that had profound global impacts and cost hundred of thousands of lives.
And Romney and his henchmen making political hay of the deaths of four brave men is disgusting.
Actually, foreign embassies in any country do not have the right to secure the area outside their gates. That is the roll of the host country. They promise to keep the area secure and we do the same for them at their embassy in the US. We can no more put US security (military or private) on their soil outside the embassy than they can put theirs on our soil. Imagine if Embassy Row in DC had hundreds of armed foreign military people patrolling it. That would be unacceptable.
If there is doubt that the host country can provide the needed security, there is no reason to be there and the embassy should be closed. That is probably the course that should have been taken weeks before the incident, if they felt the embassy was in danger. But they (at the embassy and in DC) probably thought the work they were doing there was too important, not to mention the optics of the US pulling their embassy out of a country they just helped to liberate. So they took the risk and kept it open. Arguing that more US security was needed is nonsense though. More Libyan security was needed and not provided.
It’s a mess but it’s not the big scandal that some are making it out to be.
US has its Libyan embassy in Tripoli and is secure and fortified. The temporary location of the US consulate in Benghazi looks more like a villa park.
Vile Rat has been confirmed to be KIA in Benghazi
Then it should have been closed if there was doubt that Libya could secure the area. Like I said, someone decided to take a risk keeping it open. Was it an acceptable risk? I would say yes if the staff knew of the risk and given the opportunity to go home. But that’s my opinion. Shit happens in even the most stable countries. This one’s volatile. Someone should take responsibility, publish the truth when it’s all known and we move on.
Weren’t you on here like a month ago stating that the Gallup and Rasmussen daily trackers were “the most accurate in the known universe” or whatever, and that this was proof that Obama was toast? So, how exactly does that work on those days when they reflect an Obama lead?
Aren’t you misquoting me? I definitely trust Rasmussen more than other polls, based on the subtle, nuanced manner in which controls for party identification, and was definitely concerned after uesterday’s poll that showed Obama at 50 percent…but today he is at 48 percent to Romney’s 47, which demonstrates the inherent volotility of polls…
Don’t get me wrong…because Romney is not a good politician (good businessman, and, as a corollary, good at organization), he can still squander an election which is his to lose based on Obama’s failed Presidency. He’s no lock, but this election is still his to lose.
Planning my November 6th dinner. Does chicken or fish go best with your tears?
I told you I was throwing an Obama victory party if he wins…I’ll pay for flights for anyone here that wants to celebrate Obama’s victory with me, my wife, 13 cats, 3 dogs, and 4 horses here in the Northern Atlanta suburbs…let me know if you’re in! Obama is an American, after all, and will still be our Commander-in-Chief.
If Romney wins, I’m celebrating by myself with my wife and my favorite horse, Ruby! (perhaps a midnight run!)
Hey Nick,
I salute you for recognizing – unlike a lot of Tea Partiers (or people on the left in the wake of Gore v Bush, for that matter) that whomever occupies the White House is, in fact, both Commander-in-Chief and president of all Americans. (Unlike Romney, who doesn’t think it’s in his job description to worry about 47% – or more – of us.) But seriously – no snark – good on you.
And as I’ve said in other threads, there are legitimate questions around Benghazi, especially the Obama administration’s lying for over a week in promulgating the notion that it was part of the region-wide protests over that idiotic movie trailer, not a separate and far more worrisome planned attack. Lying about things like that, and intelligence failures ahead of the incident, have been a habit that is fully bipartisan and goes back decades, but that doesn’t excuse it this time. It won’t turn the election, and the GOP would have more credibility in attacking on the issue if they weren’t freely mixing in their own fantasies and if Romney hadn’t humiliated himself with his initial response. But it’s still a bad deal.
I’d be tempted to take you up on your offer – both for the conversation and cuz it’d be a free chance to see some of my family, who lives in Marietta and points nearby (the rest don’t live in the US, so for practical purposes the Georgians are my family) – but I have to, you know. work. C’est la vie. Some other time?
Actionable intelligence about an attack before it happened. What they got was intelligence AFTER the attack that the riots were used as an opportunity for an attack they planned. From the Yahoo news timeline:
“Sept. 12
U.S. intelligence agencies intercept calls between members of Ansar al-Sharia, the jihadist group suspected of carrying out the attack, and members of al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), the group’s North African affiliate. The Libyans brag that, after watching riots on Sept. 11 at the U.S. embassy in Cairo, they had decided to go forward with an attack in Benghazi.”
http://news.yahoo.com/white-houses-evolving-story-benghazi-attack-timeline-121400765.html;_ylt=Akdh3
mY6b9Uagr09gEWBzJCs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTVtcnBzMWg4BGNjb2RlA2dtcHRvcDEw
Now Ambassador Rice was unclear in what she said on the 9/16 Sunday talk shows when she made it sound like the protests were the cause of the attacks instead of being used as an opportunity to carry out pre-planned attacks. Really she should have gone the more cautious route and said the incident is still under investigation so I can’t speak to details right now.
Still her unclear words 5 DAYS LATER do no constitute a cover up especially since it was made clear just two days after that in testimony by Matt Olsen, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, to a congressional committee.
Of course there are questions that need to be asked and answered
Here in Colorado I constantly get Robocalls from the RNC.
At the end they purposely cut off their phone number.
For instance “This call paid for by the Republican National committee 1-800-123-45 BEEP”.
Almost all other Republican robocalls do the exact same thing.
It is not a “mistake” it is a purposeful breaking of the law.
FWIW I got a call last night from an outside-contractor call center working for the Obama campaign inviting me to Michelle Obama’s event tomorrow. At the end of the call, the person read off the “this has been paid for by OFA…” disclaimer and they dropped a digit from the phone number. An honest mistake, I think. If it were a robocall it might have made me suspicious though.
Don’t waste your time waiting for an apology, I just love the words of that Cuban mom.
I was going to mention that too. I thought it was a very classy retort, on the spot. I would have said something ugly, very loudly, then slammed down the phone.
On the good side, the caller did call him Wrongney.
This new tool is the best thing that I have seen from the Obama campaign, and that’s saying a lot.
If you click it and enter your state or your zip code, be sure to notice that it defaults to health care, but there are 6 additional tabs for things like energy, jobs, taxes, etc.
http://www.barackobama.com/local?source=em12_20121001_sc_tt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=obam
a&utm_campaign=em12_20121001_sc_tt
What a great tool this would be, too, for GOTV if you have a tablet that isn’t dependent on wireless.
I am so jazzed about this!
what’s up with this thread it says 30 comments but I only see 6?
Looks like some people have made Nick’s comments and their responses invisible to some.
To those who did it (I’m not naming names here):
Are we so insecure that we can’t handle someone pestering or disagreeing with us and feel we have to censor him? Something to think about. You know you can go and change the troll-ratings back to “none” if you reconsider.
Look…I do not resent anyone here…I have my opinion, you guys and gals have yours, I can go back to my echo chamber…
Honestly, at an emotional level, starting out where I did, I relate to “the workers”, “the poor”, the “oppressed”, more than the “rich”… I really don’t like a big percentage of the “rich” who are represented in Aerosmith’s “Eat the Rich”… They are assholes…
FWIW, I don’t think this has anything to do with insecurity. All users in this thread can easily deal with Nick’s nonsense. But he is, at least some of the time, disruptive and prone to false arguments and it is simply a waste of time to have to constantly debunk the drivel (some times repeatedly). Respectful discourse is one thing, but false or distorted arguments (such as the one on Carter above) shows disrespect for the community here.
Okay then. It is a democratic forum. Enough people voted to give the troll a censure and they did it. I’m fine with that and he’s probably learned a lesson from it.
Carry on.
Learned a lesson? Ah-hahahahahahahaha! You so funny.
Every time he uses the term “Progs” I’m tempted to hide-rate him for disrespecting the level of civil discourse appropriate to the Frog Pond, but he isn’t worth the clicks.
At this point I just let my gaze slide past his blitherings; not worth wasting time on.
I’m just bummed that he won’t get to see the RickRoll I put in one of my responses. (the green quote technology.)
🙁
Well, it was not hidden for quite some time so there is a good chance he saw it. I looked at the link and got a good laugh. Seen previously, but a while ago now.
And I will say flat out the next time I read a comment where he uses it I will hide rate it. I have respectfully told him twice how rude it is yet he continues to use it. If he wants respectful debate he better offer respectful debate. Nothing about “you progs” is respectful.
Me personally, I just scroll right on past ’em. When I come back to a thread and I see it’s jumped from 1 to like 20 comments in less than 1 hr, then I figure keep my scrollin’ finger handy, cause Booman’s resident “you know who” is prob posting again.
One thing though, at least at Balloon Juice with it’s “pie filter” I can give my scrolling finger a rest and just read about yummy pie.
I don’t think I’ve ever “hide” rated anyone on any blog I visit. I just pass ’em on by. Easier that way.
Depends on the comment. I’ll give a 1 to an obvious attempt to pick a fight. I’ll answer what appears to be a genuine attempt at discourse. I’m willing to enlighten anyone. When he goes off the deep end, I just stop. It’s the best way to stop a flame war.
Zero’s I reserve for blatant spamming like sex ads and viagra sales pitches.
Sometimes I have a suspicion that he’s really Booman playing devil’s advocate.
I’ve hidden him once or twice. It’s not out of insecurity but simply because I’m not a big fan of comment spam, and about two thirds of what he has to say registers as spam.
Probably to prevent me from making additional comments…sigh…
Looks like a couple nuked Nick.
I see
34 comments (34 topical, 0 editorial, 2 hidden)
but there are only about 10 comments displayed. I have my preferences set to display all comments FWIW.
Methinks there’s something else going on, dunno what.
two are hidden but there are whole trees of comments branching off of those two.
Ah. Makes sense.
Of Topic but Matt Drudge is going withthe smears of yesteryear
MATT DRUDGE @DRUDGE
Curious tape dropping tonight. NOT from MOTHERJONES. Will cause controversy, ignite accusations of racism — in both directions!
RT @DRUDGE: Internal debate at news network about airing tape tonight, on eve of debate… MORE
On the drudge website
CAMPAIGN DRAMA: VIDEO MADE 6 YEARS AGO SURFACES ON EVE OF FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE… DEVELOPING TONIGHT…
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, its the return of the “Whitey” tape! Ahh nostalgia.
Revival of Reverend Wright?
Seems to be
Drudge
THE ACCENT… THE ANGER… THE ACCUSATIONS… THE SERMON…
THE SHOUT OUT TO REV. WRIGHT, WHO IS IN AUDIENCE…
FOXNEWS 9 PM ET…
Hannity is crowing about it on a box at foxnews
It’s a bombshell video that you will only see tonight on ‘Hannity,’ and it’s one that could dramatically impact the race for the White House
I’m terrified. Really.
Speaking of ratings..can any point me to a link showing how that works? Is that what (none/0) means after a post?
Thanks!
To rate a comment you just click on the little box saying ‘none’ below a comment. You will then get 4 options, 1-4 (or 0-4 if you are a Trusted User). Click the rating you find appropriate.
Rating etiquette: A 3-rating is really not used. A 2-rating is sometimes, though rarely, used if someone is bordering on trollish behavior.
(none/0) means that no one has rated a comment. I guess most comments fall in this category. (none/1) means that only one user has rated the comment at that time, and it is considered non-significant. Once at least two users have rated a comment, the actual average rating is shown.
Rating may be a bit tedious, but Booman has asked that we take community moderation seriously. Spam should always be rated 1, or 0 if you have superpowers. Trollish behavior, well, that is your judgment call.
Thanks much!!!
“Trollish behavior, well, that is your judgment call.”
This wonderful place has very few trolls, it seems, although one has been pretty active of late 🙂
After you set the number you prefer, you then hit the ‘rate all’ button to set that number. The ‘rate all’ button also allows you to rate all the comments you want and only hit the button once.
Failure to hit that button will remove all the ratings you set.
nalbar
Yes, I forgot that important point.
Thanks. Just gave my first ratings 🙂
Hey Booman, the other day, I posted a link to a Latino poll that had Obama at 73% support with Latino voters. Well here’s CNN/ORC poll and yep, they have Obama at 70% support with Latino LIKELY voters!
Bet this explains why all the reports of Romney saying he would NOT deport those who took advantage of Obama’s “Dream Act” declaration.
“CNN Poll: Obama at 70% among Latino voters”
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/02/cnn-poll-obama-at-70-among-latino-voters/
Romney has succeeded in slowly alienating every demographic not the 1%. Looks like he is weaning Cuban-Americans from the Republican Party. Who’s next? Southern white guys?
Funny.
Romney doesn’t care anymore, he will not continue the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA), this is a very water down version of the DREAM ACT. I doubt Romney will gain much support from the Latino Community, with this new stance.
http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2012/10/02/mitt-romney-would-preserve-president-obama-ex
ecutive-order-protecting-young-illegal-immigrants-from-deportation/2Pmn9UxDli78jmFMGHBbSM/story.html