Not being Catholic, there’s a limit to how much interest I can muster in doctrinal disputes within the Church. Sometimes it feels somewhat like watching pro wrestling, which is another spectacle where my lack of faith in the actors leads me to be suspicious of and ultimately ambivalent about the outcome. But, okay, I might have been raised Catholic if a priest in Kansas hadn’t told my maternal grandfather that he needed to get remarried to my grandmother because their non-Catholic marriage was illegitimate and their children were bastards. My grandfather was stationed at Fort Leavenworth during World War Two, and he wanted to join the Catholic Church. Instead, he was left with a lifelong antipathy.
So, when it comes to the issue of the Church recognizing marriages (whether they be non-Catholic or second or third marriages), it is at least of some relevance to my family history and my life.
So, when a synod on the family spoke of admitting the divorced and remarried to communion, it was something that made my ears perk up.
Yet, for some folks, this was a step too far. Listen to New York Times columnist Ross Douthat:
Over all, that conservative reply has the better of the argument. Not necessarily on every issue: The church’s attitude toward gay Catholics, for instance, has often been far more punitive and hostile than the pastoral approach to heterosexuals living in what the church considers sinful situations, and there are clearly ways that the church can be more understanding of the cross carried by gay Christians.
But going beyond such a welcome to a kind of celebration of the virtues of nonmarital relationships generally, as the synod document seemed to do, might open a divide between formal teaching and real-world practice that’s too wide to be sustained. And on communion for the remarried, the stakes are not debatable at all. The Catholic Church was willing to lose the kingdom of England, and by extension the entire English-speaking world, over the principle that when a first marriage is valid a second is adulterous, a position rooted in the specific words of Jesus of Nazareth. To change on that issue, no matter how it was couched, would not be development; it would be contradiction and reversal.
SUCH a reversal would put the church on the brink of a precipice. Of course it would be welcomed by some progressive Catholics and hailed by the secular press. But it would leave many of the church’s bishops and theologians in an untenable position, and it would sow confusion among the church’s orthodox adherents — encouraging doubt and defections, apocalypticism and paranoia (remember there is another pope still living!) and eventually even a real schism.
This is presented as dispassionate analysis, meaning that Mr. Douthat could be merely making statements of what he believes to be fact without endorsing such reactions himself. But he goes on to all but endorse a kind of insurgency against Pope Francis and his heretical ways.
Francis is charismatic, popular, widely beloved. He has, until this point, faced strong criticism only from the church’s traditionalist fringe, and managed to unite most Catholics in admiration for his ministry. There are ways that he can shape the church without calling doctrine into question, and avenues he can explore (annulment reform, in particular) that would bring more people back to the sacraments without a crisis. He can be, as he clearly wishes to be, a progressive pope, a pope of social justice — and he does not have to break the church to do it.
But if he seems to be choosing the more dangerous path — if he moves to reassign potential critics in the hierarchy, if he seems to be stacking the next synod’s ranks with supporters of a sweeping change — then conservative Catholics will need a cleareyed understanding of the situation.
They can certainly persist in the belief that God protects the church from self-contradiction. But they might want to consider the possibility that they have a role to play, and that this pope may be preserved from error only if the church itself resists him.
Of course, I am aware that this dispute rests on very unambiguous language in the New Testament. The following is from Chapter 10 of the Gospel According to Mark:
2 Some Pharisees came, and to test him they asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?” 3 He answered them, “What did Moses command you?” 4 They said, “Moses allowed a man to write a certificate of dismissal and to divorce her.” 5 But Jesus said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart he wrote this commandment for you. 6 But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ 7 ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, 8 and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
The pope would seem to be precluded from facilitating a divorce or of recognizing one as “lawful.” And that’s been the Vatican’s take on matters, with certain exceptions carved out for annulments. Is this pope ready to relax that harsh standard? Would it actually invite a schism within the Church if he did?
I can’t really relate to the sacramental aspects of Catholicism, but I do recognize that marriage is a sacrament, and this puts it in a different category from how, say, the Church handles birth control. And, in any case, this isn’t my fight. But I do think it would be a shame if a modern “hardness of heart” led a faction dedicated to the inerrancy of the Church’s teachings on marriage to create a new schism within Catholicism.
Eleanor and Louis were married in the Catholic Church. Fifteen years and two children later and by mutual consent (they more or less loathed each other), they divorced. Both remarried in the church and had several more children with their new spouses. (Louis married a third time after the death of his second wife and had two more children.)
The divorce (annulment in the official, hypocritical records of the Catholic Church) was granted in the year 1152. So, for over 850 years the Vatican has been fine with divorce if the parties have the right political clout and/or enough money to pay off key Vatican decision makers. Long past time to send the not consistently applied divorce prohibition policy to the trash heap used for limbo and no meat on Friday.
If exceptions are made for the rich and powerful, does that mean that everyone else should be allowed to do what the rich and powerful do or does it mean that exceptions should no longer be made for the rich and powerful?
The things that Douthat says would cause problems – reassigning people who don’t agree with the Pope, stacking the next synod – are in fact exactly what John Paul II and, particularly, Benedict did to try to cement the conservative bent of the Church. So, once again, IOKIYAC.
In addition to Randy’s great points here, I’d add that Francis is causing conservative Catholics to discover the concept of a fallible Pope.
It’s all very familiar to those of us who observe the entire right-wing movement rise up against criticism of a Republican POTUS, saying that “LIBERALS’ DISRESPECT OF THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT IS UNAMERICAN!!11!!1!!!”, only to engage in the most offensive nonstop hypocritical criticism of a Democratic POTUS.
My disrespect for those in the modern conservative movement is immense. Their actions and statements appear to me to be far from Jesus’ teachings.
I’m rooting for Pope Francis.
As a non-believer, I always find these kinds of doctrinal wrestling matches quite interesting and, at times, entertaining. However, as I have a number of friends who are Catholic, many of whom take their faith quite seriously, it always pains me to see them struggling with these kinds of issues. It appears that the Catholic Church is now running up against their own Tea Party, of sorts, with those who want to hew to what is really a culturally antiquated worldview on issues such as marriage, homosexuality and the issue of papal infallibility.
As a one-time devout Christian, one thing I can say for certain. Both sides using the Bible as their source for argument is not going to solve this. There is enough contradiction and dissonance found within the scriptures to allow both sides for feel righteously supported by the writings found there. The verses in any “holy book” have always been enough to feed any viewpoint, regardless of where it falls on the spectrum of belief. Religion has always started with a conclusion, and looked to the scriptures for any nugget which will support it. And this case is really not any different. Battles like this will continue, ad infinitum.
Arguments about these kinds of doctrinal aspects are bullshit. Jesus made unambiguously clear. The most important rule? Love God. Second? Love each human being. These are the unambiguous commands of the Son of God, but I’ll be dipped in shit if I’ve ever seen a Ross Douthat column or any modern Pope BESIDES Francis who understands these very simple rules.
Every fixation on sex they indulge in is incredibly revealing–of THEIR hangups and neuroses and idiotic pretzel logic that always ends up trying to CONTROL.
Oh, and Jesus probably never existed…but that doesn’t keep him from being my favorite role model. He hated hypocrites, and, man, did those ‘conservatives’ make him PISSED…
And Jesus also said that he “didn’t come to bring peace to the world, but a sword.” He came “to turn man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law…a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.” So as with most things biblical, the Jesus character is a mixed bag. I agree that virtually all iterations of Christianity seem to have a real hang-up on sex. And I think that has more to do with the inherent authoritarian control that is necessary to maintain the sheeple, coupled with a heavy dose of patriarchal power to keep down the potentially rowdy women-folk.
As for Jesus not existing, it seems there are differing opinions on that among those who study the issue. I haven’t heard any overwhelmingly convincing evidence either way, and I have read books from people on both sides of the debate. As far as I’m concerned, I don’t really care whether or not he actually existed. Whether or not he did, there has certainly been a mish-mash of crazy shit that has been left in the wake of the whole Jesus narrative over the last 2000 years. This idea that Christianity has of using “faith” as an epistemological tool has led to nothing but a major clusterfuck around the world.
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Among Biblical scholars there are few who argue that Jesus didn’t exist – sources from the period, i.e. Roman sources, Jewish sources and of course Christian sources of various kinds all mention Jesus, not leaving much of a basis for arguing that he didn’t exist. Other than that he existed and was crucified by the Romans, there’s plenty of disagreement about “the historical Jesus”. And of course some traditions claim he escaped crucifixion.
I would like the Catholic Church if they got through this stuff.
But I should point out the statement was made so that that women would not be dismissed by men and made economically destitute since no new man would marry her and female economic power was so limited in AD 30. This is also the thinking behind the ban on divorce which you can see illustrated in the Franks in the centuries after the fall of Rome.
There are two issues here. The first and easier to dispose of is Douthat, the token conservative at a supposedly liberal but really corporate elite paper. And that paper’s audience includes a lot of Catholics.
Douthat longs for the days of Cardinal Spellman, when the Catholic church was unequivocally against communism and liberalism and for the strictest form of sexual morality–and pedophile and other sexually active priest were always in the closet. And granting a divorce was a lucrative indulgence. The mass was in Latin and thus incomprehensible to those not going down the road of piety and professional religious. And Catholics, Protestants, and Jews had arrived at a detente that allowed the civil religion of the US to be sanctified under the rule of the God of the Bible, the Common Book.
John XXIII destroyed that Catholic world with the Second Vatican Council. Conservative Catholics and Catholic conservatives in the US have been in rebellion ever since. The Vatican II-authorized Nuns on the Bus are considered heretics, and now even the Argentinian priest who became Pope is being written off as a heretic by US Catholics because he just doesn’t fit Republican politics. Douthat’s complaint is just like Coulter’s complaint, just less shrill; modernism is creeping into the ancient tradition. And modernism=liberalism=anti-Randism=….
All the theological arguments rest on the metaphor that the Church created early on for the relationship of faithfulness between the Christ (the Bridegroom) and His Church (the Bride). Having made that metaphor, human marriage then was required to live up to that heavenly relationship of faithfulness. And here’s where the debate is. What do you do when that is not humanly possible?
Ordination is another sacrament of the Church (and also symbolized as marriage). But somehow there is not the anxiety around failed priests separating themselves from the Church as there is about human marriage.
The deep issue does not seem to be a theological one. It seems to be something else.
Given other positions of the Church in its defense against “modernity”, one would guess that it has at least a little bit to do with the regulation of sexuality in a culture that essentially has decided that cohabitation outside of marriage is no longer stigmatized.
The other issue for conservative Catholics is the primacy of the Catholic Church and the illegitimacy of all Protestant faiths (and the sacraments that they conduct). This Counter-Reformation attitude might not be dominant, but a few politicized conservatives seem to be resurrecting it as a congregational wedge issue. One suspects at least one or two of the US or African bishops to have a toe stuck in that bowl of water. Cynics would call it branding, in the marketing sense.
“Given other positions of the Church in its defense against “modernity”, one would guess that it has at least a little bit to do with the regulation of sexuality in a culture that essentially has decided that cohabitation outside of marriage is no longer stigmatized.”
Bingo. Sexuality is also the root of prohibition of birth control and abortion. It’s all about punishing people for having sex, the Church’s “ooooga booooga”. Sex is not a sin if a married couple is trying to conceive a child. Any other time it is a sin. This is what the Church has taught. I’m guessing no one classified clergy raping children as a sin, but that’s another discussion.
I say this having been raised Catholic in the 50’s and 60’s and attending Catholic schools from Kindergarten through college.
Brad DeLong takes apart Douthat’s grasp of history.
Of course the Church would never dream of contradicting the words of Jesus or reversing themselves on any doctrinal point, like when they agreed with Jesus that the laws of Kashrut should not be violated in the smallest respect
or never changed the official position on the marriage of priests and monks.
Hogwash. Pope Clemont VII wasn’t in any position to defy the wishes of Charles V, Holy Roman Empire. And on this matter, Charles V followed the wishes of his aunt, Catherine of Aragon.
DeLong covered that in the bit Boo linked above. I’m really a little shocked by this whole thing, thought for quite a while that Douthat was the only one who wasn’t an idiot (deeply dishonest, but not dumb). But he clearly doesn’t know his church history at all.
Catholics don’t want to know their church history. Not much “holy” in the see. Intrigue, politics, and money, like most religious institutions. The “god” or “gods” part is PR for all the little people in need of a magical being that will make their lives better if they are good enough. Like Santa Claus for those over the age of five, but without a regular schedule to deliver goodies.
Douthat is a buffoon.
Another unambiguous quote on the same subject from Jesus is relevant here–anyone who finds themselves lusting after an unavailable woman deep in their male hearts is also guilty of adultery. In other words, Jesus declared that EVERYONE IS A SINNER. Everyone. No exceptions. It’s part of being human.
What’s left out is this: how can an odious sinner ever get to heaven and see God? If everyone is a sinner, what’s the point?
The point is this: Accept it. It puts everyone in the same boat who isn’t perfect. And our individual fates are up to God, a perfect mystery until the time comes.
‘Conservatives’ don’t like being portrayed as sinners. ‘Conservatives’ don’t like uncertainty about their ability to get into heaven. ‘Conservatives’ look down their noses at everyone they consider inferior morally or any other way, but the notion that everyone is a sinner goes against everything they ‘believe’.
Oy. Ross Douthat IS a loon.
Pope Francis is threatening the relationship between the U.S. Catholic hierarchy and the Republican party. This “pact” has existed since the late 1970’s, but it really picked up a lot of steam under Reagan. The Catholic hierarchy hides behind the Christian evangelicals who take the brunt of the criticism. I say this as a former Catholic who attended Catholic schools from lst grade through college during the 1950’s, 60’s, and 70’s.
Excellent point. I hadn’t thought about that but you’re absolutely right. It’s a shame that there can be such gaps between the hierarchy and caring, progressive, courageous nuns, priests and laity (I’m thinking particularly about what happened to them in El Salvador and other Central American countries in the 80’s).
I, too, am a former Catholic, my primary reason being I don’t see why I need a mediator between me and my own sense of who/what God is. Well, and there’s the misogyny and anti Antisemitism and criminal cover up of pedophilia, etc. etc. etc.