I’m only in in the 19-page “Findings and Conclusions”, and have decided to start drinking early.
I feel like Jon Stewart after Eric Garner. I don’t know what to say. I mean, fucking ice water baths: that’s shit Josef Mengele did. It’s just utterly fucking disgusting, not only what’s been done in our name, but that the walking sentient turds that committed these crimes walk free, and in some cases get paid substantial sums of money to share their wisdom.
This is just the beginning of the long overdue “look back” that President Obama has desperately advised we not do. But we need to look back: someday we will have to ask ourselves “how did we get here, to this debased and barren moral and cultural moonscape.” What we did after 9/11 is, in my opinion, at the root of so much of our recent barbarity. We’ve always been a fucked up violent culture, but 9/11 sent that shit into overdrive.
We gotta look back if we’re ever gonna see the way forward.
My father was one of our soldiers that went through the Hundred Mile Death March and spent 4 years in Japanese prison of War camps. He also served 27 years in the military. I am so thankful that he died before all of this mess. See he was tortured many times in various ways and he was always proud that none of our US troops tortured. To him and myself included it was a matter of honor.
Now the world looks upon the USA with distrust and rightly so. If those that orchestrated this are not brought up on War Crime charges then the USA has no right to complain about ANY other governments treatment of others. Sadly the ones that will suffer for all of this are our military, if and when captured.
I wonder if this might make some of our troops decide to quit? Glad I have already served myself.
I also want us taxpayers to get our $81 million back
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/09/1350553/-CIA-paid-two-ex-military-psychologists-who-helped-
designed-and-run-torture-program-81-million
As subpoena their payroll list for those people who materially aided torture.
In 1980, the GOP told me that if I voted for Jimmy Carter, in the not too distant future I would be freezing in the dark. In the winter, we essentially live in one room, plus a bathroom and the kitchen heated.
In 2000, the GOP told me that if I voted for Al Gore after the “immorality” of the Clinton administration, that the United States would become a totally depraved and morally corrupt place. Just look. That’s the way it turned out.
And yes, I voted for Jimmy Carter and Al Gore. According to the GOP, it’s all our fault.
What can one expect from a bunch of, at best, maroons?
Brendan writews:
OH yes!!!
Thank you, Brendan.
The first nationally recognizable politician that promises to do this gets my support. and my help. But whoever it is…in any party…we must hold him or her to it.
Easier said than done.
Talk is cheap and betrayal is even cheaper.
Bet on it.
AG
Many years ago, I was an avid backwoods camper: my girlfriend and i thought nothing of driving 3 hours to the mountains, hiking 5 miles in, and camping the back country. One time we took the advice of some other hikers and took a shortcut back to the car. Big mistake: somewhere we took a wrong turn and ended up at a sheer cliff.
Luckily, we’d both felt leery about the path early on, and each of us kept a mental note about landmarks. It was ONLY by looking back that we got on the safe path home.
I guess that’s a parable.
I like it
“We gotta look back if we’re ever gonna see the way forward.”…this is an understatement…and the way the USofA can start to reclaim any of our expended and morally corrupt credibility, it to look back and prosecute…if not well it is the Fascists in power that will eventually be protected…It’s not like this stuff hasn’t already been used here, in the USofA…only different forms…Pepper spray directly to the eyes…etc…remember how Occupy was handled?? and look at our Race Relations of our fellow Americans??? symptomatic of our “not looking back”…
Well, the historians out there would certainly agree with this sentiment. Looking back is pretty crucial to understanding the way forward, since one has to know how exactly how one got to where they are.
The “conservative” movement has a very selective approach to history. They seem to think there was a bygone American Golden Age that has been ruined by lib’ruls, but they are blind to the history that they don’t like or which implicates their misdeeds or those of the nation.
Thus we hear the refrain “Get over it!” when one speaks of the Stolen Election of 2000 and Bush v Gore–the great misdeed that ushered in most of the maladministration and crimes of the recent past and made clear that American “law” was now a joke. That was when the nation saw how committed to the “ends justify the means” thinking that animates the “conservative” movement and governs all of its actions.
As regards torture, we are already seeing the conservative “get over it!” argument surfacing in the guise of “what is gained by releasing this?” and “we already knew this!” etc, etc. This is the current formula of the coaches of Team Conservative for advising their cogs how to think about our [Repub] torture regime. Misdeeds must always be swept under the rug and hidden. That’s how their minds operate with their own personal misdeeds, and that’s how they think the nation should operate as well.
Always look back. There’s more to see every time you do. It’s always the criminals who are reluctant to look back….