I took a little perverse pleasure in reading Charles C.W. Cooke’s richly deserved critique of Jonathan Chait’s latest pearl-clutching column. Obviously, it simply isn’t true that Chait was genuinely “shocked” at some epiphany he had last night watching Matt Lauer dumb down foreign policy for the hoi polloi.
I had not taken seriously the possibility that Donald Trump could win the presidency until I saw Matt Lauer host an hour-long interview with the two major party candidates. Lauer’s performance was not merely a failure, it was horrifying and shocking. The shock, for me, was the realization that most Americans inhabit a very different news environment than professional journalists.
I’m not sure how the voice of his intellectual conscience didn’t regurgitate that paragraph the second he wrote it. Chait isn’t stupid and he knows that the American public wouldn’t be seriously considering making a Birther the next president of the United States if the masses inhabited the same news environment as professional journalists. If the American public shared even 25% of the value system of an American newsroom or any faculty lounge in the country, they’d be showing about the same polling support for Trump as the African American community, which is approximately zero support.
Educated people, well-read people, are already convinced that Trump is a charlatan and a demagogue.
But, as Adlai Stevenson once said, “Yes, but I need a majority.”
How does Chait think demagoguery actually works?
By making logical factually supported arguments?
As Republican elites discovered in the primaries, public opinion can be impervious to facts, and never more so than if you feed them a constant diet of bad predictions, bad-faith promises, half-truths and outright fabrications, and then demand that they believe the experts.
But the problem here is different, isn’t it?
The problem is the supposedly enlightened professional journalism class (as embodied in this case by the inestimable Matt Lauer) actually failing to make clear that there is a real difference between the two candidates, one of which is “a normal politician with normal political failings” and the other “an ignorant, bigoted, pathologically dishonest authoritarian.”
As Cooke points out, Chait was not “surprised,” not “shocked,” and he didn’t “realize” anything, unless he means that he never quite understood what a hack Matt Lauer is and how unsuitable a choice he makes to serve as moderator for our presidential candidates.
The public can go any old direction, which is why leadership is so important and demagoguery is so dangerous. This idea that Americans are too good or wise to follow a man like Donald Trump is its own form of American Exceptionalism. Call it the American Exceptionalism of the left-wing professional journalist class.
At one moment, they invest themselves with magical powers to “shape the debate,” and the next they’re shocked to learn that their colleagues pander to the lowest common denominator.
If there’s an “objective” press out there in the first place, it’s not really their job to make clear that one candidate is flawed but suitable and the other is pathological. Their job is to get the candidates to make that clear themselves by how they answer the questions.
Yes, Lauer did a shockingly poor job of that last night. I doubt he’ll be the last “professional journalist” to focus on vacuous but easily comprehensible questions.
“If there’s an ‘objective’ press out there in the first place, it’s not really their job to make clear that one candidate is flawed but suitable and the other is pathological.”
And why isn’t it their job?
Seems to me that’s what we get from American journalism school dogma about reporting and opinion writing being absolutely distinct. It’s an idea that would be alien to British journalists, say.
Depends on whether you’re making a pretense of objectivity or not.
I’m not.
But there’s a role for an adversarial press that is still neutral as far as outcomes. That doesn’t mean they forget the adversarial part, but it does mean that they don’t take it to be their job to prove which candidate is better.
They can focus on whether what they said is accurate or crazy, but that’s different than having an ax to grind.
And therein lies the rub. Almost no one who fills the news feeding troughs for the majority of our uninformed populace will deign to consistently point out inaccuracies. But they will most certainly grind that ax that their profession has been carrying around, for Clintons specifically, and Democrats in general, for the last 25 years.
This is quickly turning into a worse media performance than we saw in 2000. And the results this time, if things continue to be reported in the manner they have been up to this point, could turn out exponentially more disastrous.
Watching television media is more painful to me than taking a shit after eating a bowl of jalapenos. I just cannot stomach these people anymore. I’m maxed out on my loathing of the whole freaking business.
. . . than we saw in 2000.”
I had the identical thought within the last day or two over some latest documentation (forget which, they seem constant now) of recent Corporate Media awfulness.
Not something I would have believed possible after having been sentient through the 2000 election and its media-enabled theft.
Almost seems the Matt Lauers of the Beltway Village see “Uninforming” (to borrow booman’s term) the “American Public” is actually their job.
So to them, it looks like they’re doing great!
I never would have dreamed, after watching Bush bumble and stumble through virtually every public campaign appearance in the 2000 election, not to mention his awful and imbecilic debate performances, yet still have the media at large pumping him as a guy who was ready to be commander in chief, that it would be possible for our national media to ever do any worse than they did during that election.
I fear that I am about to be proven horribly wrong.
with you on that. DANGER WILL ROBINSON when the media started talking about Trump’s “policy”. and isn’t Matt Lauer some morning talk show guy who does cooking or something? wow! this cartoon comes to mind:
Trying to link to that cartoon “what lemmings believe” http://www.condenaststore.com/-sp/What-Lemmings-Believe-New-Yorker-Cartoon-Prints_i8562862_.htm
Yet somehow with the 80% (or thereabouts) of the MSM fawning over GWB for well over a year (1999-2000) more people voted for Gore. The more direct impact was that it confused enough people that they threw up their hands and didn’t vote. 101 million votes counted in 2000 compared with 121 million in 2004.
the “journalistic”* malpractice kept it within election-stealing range.
*”scare quotes” obligatory
The topic under discussion is that “Americans are uninformed.” (A polite way to say that they are stupid.) Thus, my point was that the travesty in the media coverage of Gore and GWB fell short of fooling a plurality. It’s entirely possible that balanced media coverage wouldn’t have changed the vote in FL which has generally been very close in statewide elections.
I suppose the media could be faulted for not having detected the existence of election fraud in FL prior to and on election day. OTOH, team Gore and the FL Democratic Party didn’t consider that either. And still with all those election fraud means in place, Jeb’s team screwed up by underestimating the number of votes they had to suppress and steal. And that was with Palm Beach county gift of something near 20,000 due to a crap ballot design that increased mis-votes (Buchanan instead of Gore), overvotes (punching twice – once for Gore and once for Lieberman). The motherlode for uncounted ballots was in Duval County. More More here. Not included in either of those reports was that the Duval Co results came in late — when it was known that GWB was falling short. Then:
With all the theft, the GOP knew they couldn’t withstand a manual recount. That’s why they were in federal court before Gore’s team had figured out what to do next.
The majority of American public prefer to hear things that tickle their ears instead of hard, substantially supported facts. They prefer a 30 minute clip over reading a well written factual article with in depth explanations of the issues. One requires very little thought. Whereas the other requires dreaded reading and heaven forbid thinking skills!
I think you meant 30 second, not 30 minute.
But, anyway, twas ever thus.
A democracy works when it has good leadership, not because the people’s collective opinion is worth a warm bucket of spit.
‘Twas ever thus’ indeed, which is why pragmatic voters prefer a candidate who engages in at least a little (and preferably much) ear-tickling. However, while the right-wing media rewards candidates who appeal to the public, the left-wing professional journalist class–and amateurs, too–does not.
Yup, value lies in legitimacy of leadership and orderly transfers of power to promote stability and preserve relative prosperity. Then again, I blame our shitty elites for the problem there.
With the state of public education, most of them can’t read an article. That’s why there are so many YouTube videos with just a guy talking.
“Their job is to get the candidates to make that clear themselves by how they answer the questions.”
Hmm, did you read Josh Marshall’s editorial saying he thinks Lauer did exactly that?
Sometimes the press exposes the candidate and sometimes the candidate exposes the press. See Guardian vs Corbyn.
“Normal political failings” don’t put a candidate 14 points underwater on their favorable ratings.
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating
Continuous investigation since she left office are not “normal political failings”. They are part of an orchestrated effort to delegitimize her prior to an election. They have been throwing stuff to see what sticks since February 2013. Little has, but the process of throwing stuff can drive up unfavorables all by itself on the assumption that the GOP wouldn’t be doing this if there were nothing there. That assumption is incorrect. The GOP especially would be doing it if there is nothing there. And with more intensity.
Eventually someone will wake up to what 25 years of GOP strategy has done to our political processes. And Democrats have been feckless to deal with it because they are quite willing for individual Democrats to hang out to dry. Until recently, Republicans abided by Reagan’s eleventh commandment, “Thous shalt speak no ill of a Republican.” unless it is that they are infufficiently conservative. It is the media that is the difference in the public response between Republican purism and liberal purism. One is quite all right and the other is asking for the impossible.
Amen! I agree, Tarheel Dem. It’s a testament to Hillary’s stamina and tenacity that she’s reached this point. Lesser people would have thrown in the towel a long time ago.
If she loses you can say with hindsight she should have thrown in the towel and her tenacity and stamina have doomed us all by running. I am not necessarily talking Bernie, but clearing the field of all potential challengers.
. . . throwing stuff to see what sticks since [’92, at the very latest].”
Yes, an objective press where facts are objects of attention and a nitpicking factchecker can turn an honest politician (by conventional standards) into a liar (by Cokie’s law). Case in point WRAL fact-checking whether Roy Cooper improved the testing at the SBI in the face of budget-cutting. WRAL gives him a “red light” by parading statistics that ignore the actions of the legislature to undercut him.
The media are not a disinterested party in all this. Matt Lauer is a Hail Mary pass by NBC to boost their political ad revenue by two desperate campaigns in a close election. The problem? Creating a close election with Trump as one of the candidates. If there are alternatives to media advertising in campaigns, Democrats should use them. The Wall Street media are currently playing them for their money.
So Matt Lauer didn’t even do as good as former co-anchor Katie Couric did with Sarah Palin. And Couric’s helpful interview was pure happenstance. New York did not know Sarah Palin; they know Donald Trump very well.
Does Trump give gratuities to media folks? Trump-branded anything? Just covering off that question that no one seems to ask given Trump’s reputation.
Trump said over a year ago that he had the media with “How far can he go with this?” The media should have taken that as a warning, not an instruction for how to cover Trump.
It is the media’s job to provide the objective contextual information that allows the public to make the decision about whether one candidate is flawed (which aren’t?) and the other is pathological. That context has been missing.
One part of that context is understanding how Presidents actually do operate after election. The public has the illusion that Presidents decree and it happens. Or that they sit in the Oval Office and “make decisions”. They never are clued in to the social interactions of how that happens or the difficulties in making it happen. Or the knowledge base required to understand what comes across their desk.
It is not just what Trump does not know, it is that he has not the curiosity to find out but instead tries to bull his way through. I know that lots of people find it charming that he bulls his way through with reporters, but that is a very dangerous habit in business or in government — more so to the extent that Trump becomes a model of success instead of a model of the boss from hell.
Tarheel – You’re asking the press to do the explaining. The old adage is that if you’re explaining, you’re losing. Ergo: Clinton was on the defensive last night. And now her explaining, even when it’s done well, is interpreted as lawyerly talk.
This may be off-topic, but I was struck by something last night that I think hasn’t been addressed enough, and it is this: How many emails in Hillary’s career as SOS or Senator were classified and were handled through proper channels? I’d have to believe that it was thousands. She alluded last night to “doing it the right way.” But that wasn’t sufficient for the questioner. The AP really hurt her with their article. Now it’s time to talk about how many secrets she guarded, as opposed to Trump who blabbed inappropriately about his ONE and ONLY briefing.
Yes, I’m asking for the press to do the explaining and to point out the political maneuvering the GOP has been doing relative to the Clintons, how it has cost US taxpayers $100 million already for how much that was found, and how it never ends.
When confronted with allegations of course lawyers retreat to lawyerly talk and business owner retreat to dazzling them with dancing and baffling them with bullshit. Some business owners are just more entertaining with their responses; lawyerly talk never is entertaining.
It wasn’t the actual breaches but the diversion out of secure systems that Clinton is being gigged with. No matter that the incidences found were in replies that her correspondents thought came from within a secure system and to which they replied reflexively without looking at the from email address. The mingling of public and private email capabilities at the top level of government and the segregation of the emails themselves is a system requirement that apparently has not been met. People used to keep private file folders in their desks for such situations. J. Edgar Hoover abused this convention in an astounding way. People also used to have executive assistants who kept secrets and that was understood as legitimate.
If the press are doing the explaining, are they losing? They used to see that as they job to fill out the context. Even when they got it wrong.
Trump is being given a pass because he’s never been a public official; the criticism of his leak of his briefing information is likely to fail if only by the way he coyly presented it as reading the briefer’s body language. The story there is Trump once again on-message to delegitimize Barack Obama. This is not a political discussion going on; it is character assassination and character assassination by proxy. There is little policy foundation to anything said last night. It was just a baiting exercise.
One of the very few times I agree with AG. The fix isn’t in, but the media is absolutely adamant about trying for a horserace.
Unfortunately, you can’t make a sporran out of a nutsack as tiny as Trump’s. They will fail because Trump absolutely can’t keep his mouth shut.
Bet on it.
And how many of the press are likewise C+ Augustus candidates?
Like the NYTimes over Aleppo today?
here’s Juan Cole’s summary/ analysis in case a person wants to become more alarmed
http://www.juancole.com/2016/09/clinton-ground-troops.html
Looks as if Juan Cole ate his Wheaties. (Of course, he may still be smarting for backing that US adventure in Libya.)
Yes, Lauer did a shockingly poor job of that last night. I doubt he’ll be the last “professional journalist” to focus on vacuous but easily comprehensible questions.
Does no one remember the 2008 Democratic debate right in Booman’s backyard(not literally!!)? Remember Charlie Gibson getting booed/heckled for asking a stupid question? Our MSM sucks. It’s as simple as that. And it will suck as long as it’s run for the benefit of rich people. The parent companies of ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and Faux News all trade on the NY Stock Exchange, right?
http://hipcrimevocab.com/2016/09/08/the-dying-americans-2/
That cat can write.
Whoa. Indeed he can.
“That shock extracted a heavy death toll on the population that anyone would classify as a legitimate dieoff. The demographic fallout is felt even today, such as the skewed gender ratios (men died off at a higher rate than women, largely due to alcohol poisoning). Yet we are told that no such shock happened in America, just a short recession in 2008 that we have mostly recovered from. Yet the death rates are eerily similar, and they go back long before 2008. Is it possible our media propaganda machine is so powerful that a nation can collapse without us even knowing it? The evidence sure seems to indicate it.”
Neoliberalism there and neoliberalism here. Just make the undesired undesirable. A few social scientists might make a buck off the documentation.
His link is pretty devastating, too.
The Dying Russians
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2014/09/02/dying-russians/
More proof that Reagan will go down as the worst American ever…
thanks for posting!