Jonathan Chait thinks the Republicans will come to regret that Hillary Clinton wasn’t elected president. His reasoning is solid. If elected, Clinton would have found her legislative agenda mostly blocked by a Republican Congress, and there’s a decent chance that the left would have disintegrated in frustration, leading to more big midterm gains for the GOP and possibly an easy victory in the 2020 presidential race.
Michael Anton’s now-iconic essay, “The Flight 93 Election,” made the case for Trump as a desperation gamble. (Hence the metaphor to a hijacked airline flight whose passengers had to choose a desperate and probably doomed fight over certain death.) Anton, now a staffer in Trump’s administration, saw another four years of Democratic presidencies as the end of white America and conservative America. Most Republicans — even those, like Anton, deeply suspicious of Trump — ultimately agreed. Almost the entire GOP decided its hatred or fear of Clinton overrode their misgivings about their own nominee, and, with varying levels of enthusiasm, supported Trump. They brought disaster upon their country, but as a small measure of compensatory justice, they have also brought it upon their party. By the time Trump has departed the Oval Office, they will look longingly at a staid, boxed-in Clinton presidency as a road not taken.
In truth, however, almost no Washington Republicans voted for Trump in the primaries. The elite conservative intelligentsia never saw Trump as fit for office, nor did they see him as an ideologically acceptable conservative. They had reconciled themselves to a Clinton presidency and were gearing up to win the battle over the autopsy of Trump’s campaign. Most of them did not want Trump to win and we’re relieved that the polls indicated that he had no chance to win. When I wrote yesterday that “our country has been atomic-wedgied on a flagpole” by the Russians, I intentionally referred not just to the left or the Democrats. Trump spent his whole primary campaign giving wedgies to the Republican establishment. Jeb was “low energy” and “Little Rubio” was a lightweight, John McCain was no war hero and, by the way, here’s Lindsey Grahams personal cell phone number. Give it a call.
If President Trump is the most successful college prank ever pulled off, both parties are the victims.
After the Access Hollywood tape came out in early October, the Speaker of the House held a phone conference with members of his caucus and said outright that he wasn’t lifting a finger to help Trump and didn’t even contemplate that he might still win.
Here’s what Paul Ryan said on that call:
“[Trump’s Access Hollywood] comments are not anywhere in keeping with our party’s principles and values,” Ryan said. “There are basically two things that I want to make really clear, as for myself as your Speaker. I am not going to defend Donald Trump—not now, not in the future. As you probably heard, I disinvited him from my first congressional district GOP event this weekend—a thing I do every year. And I’m not going to be campaigning with him over the next 30 days.”
“Look, you guys know I have real concerns with our nominee,” Ryan continued. “I hope you appreciate that I’m doing what I think is best for you, the members, not what’s best for me. So, I want to do what’s best for our members, and I think this is the right thing to do. I’m going to focus my time on campaigning for House Republicans. I talked to a bunch of you over the last 72 hours and here is basically my takeaway. To everyone on this call, this is going to be a turbulent month. Many of you on this call are facing tough reelections. Some of you are not. But with respect to Donald Trump, I would encourage you to do what you think is best and do what you feel you need to do. Personally, you need to decide what’s best for you. And you all know what’s best for you where you are.”
The last thing that Paul Ryan was thinking at that moment is that he might have the opportunity to put his repeal and replace Obamacare bill on President Trump’s desk. Frankly, he didn’t even want that outcome, and he was hardly alone.
But he was wasn’t thinking three steps ahead, like Chait is asking us to do. He wasn’t calculating that the GOP would be better off in the end with a President Clinton. He considered a Clinton win a disaster, too. It’s just that, given the choice, it was obvious that Trump wasn’t an option because he wasn’t in any way “in keeping with our party’s principles and values.”
But Chait is correct that rank-and-file Republican voters largely stayed with Trump, meaning that they “brought disaster upon their country.” This led Trump to make a fatal miscalculation. He thought he won with a partisan vote so he should be able to govern with an exclusively partisan coalition. That was incorrect because his victory was a victory over both parties, and the Washington Establishment didn’t accept him irrespective of which party they represented.
Trump needed a bipartisan coalition from the moment he saw the surprising Electoral College results, and he had a major repair job to do if he was going to find any space on the left after insulting every ethnic and minority group in the country, running an explicitly racist campaign, and being exposed as a sexual predator. That was the moment when he needed to begin an aggressive pivot in both his style and rhetoric and in his legislative proposals. He was going to need to break some campaign promises, it’s true, but he had no choice because the Democrats weren’t going to associate with a man who was still calling for a Muslim Ban and for a mass deportation force and border wall.
Chait echoed a point I made recently when he wrote that this kind of pivot and bipartisanship “would cost [Trump] the Republican lockstep support he needs to quash investigations into his corruption and campaign ties to Russia.” I think this is a key point, which is why I characterized Trump’s presidency as doomed from the outset. But it wasn’t all that clear on Election Day that his liabilities on Russia would be so crippling. If it had been, he wouldn’t have overridden his own transition staff and made Michael Flynn his National Security Adviser. If he had understood his situation correctly, he wouldn’t have persisted in doubting the Intelligence Community’s conclusion that Russia had interfered in the election on his behalf, and he wouldn’t have been allowing his staff to meet with the Russian ambassador in Trump Tower or set up a surreptitious meeting with a Putin representative in the Seychelles.
At least at the outset, he had some alternatives. He might have tried to gain support for a legislative agenda that, while distinct from his campaign promises, was consistent with it in spirit. There were coalitions of Democrats who might have helped him figure out an alternative to the Trans-Pacific Partnership or ways to renegotiate NAFTA. He could have had support for an infrastructure bill that looked a lot like what President Obama had called for for years. Repeal and replace could have been softened into something less vindictive and more constructive. He could have consulted the Democrats on appointments to key administrative and cabinet positions.
In the end, this would have probably broken the House of Representatives in ways I have been advocating that it break ever since John Boehner discovered that he had to rely on Democratic votes to pass appropriations bills, pay the government’s debts, and keep the government’s doors open. Just as with Boehner, Trump’s true House majority would always have to be bipartisan if it were to be a majority at all. Why not elect a speaker who was reflective of that governing majority? Paul Ryan was disloyal anyway, so there was no need to prefer him to stay on.
But Trump decided that he would and could govern with no Democratic votes, and even went to great lengths to assure that he’d have no other option.
Now, as the behavior of House Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes so clearly demonstrates, Trump needs the current House alignments to stay in place. If he were to force Ryan out and orchestrate a bipartisan leadership in the House, he’d immediately find himself besieged by subpoenas and possibly (soon after) articles of impeachment.
He’s not yet 100 days into his presidency, and he’s already arrived at this place. And he arrived at it in large part because he didn’t even try to avoid this fate.
In retrospect, the first thing he should have done after winning the election is call John Boehner and tell him he wanted to golf. Then Boehner could have explained to him that he’d never be able to corral the House Republicans to enact his agenda and that he’d need to think creatively about what he wanted to do and about how to get a majority that would make it possible.
Mildly off topic but wondering if BooMan has any thoughts on the news that Bannon is off the National Security Council? I’m not sure what to make of it.
sounds like adults feel the need to step up since Korea and Syria are blowing up.
D Kos is calling it “full blown retreat.” I have trouble believing that; could Bannon simply be too unpleasant to be around? Apparently he still has his security clearance.
Bannon still does have his security clearance, per the same reporter(s).
Procedurally, is this Trump’s decision? (Acquiescing to others or not?) Or could this be done without Trump agreeing to it?
I doubt it was Trump’s preferred decision. He would have agreed to it based on pressure applied from certain quarters. This sort of thing is likely to happen with increasing frequency, as his weaknesses become more obvious liabilities.
Yep, Bannon is about to get us all killed and the SOS seems to not have a clue. It is apparent to anyone paying attention Kim Jong Un and Assad are not afraid of the donald. He is being tested and he is failing.
C’mon, Boo. Do you really believe this happened for good reasons? There is a political calculus looming in this somewhere. I can’t imagine it will take long for the back story on this to seep out of the Trump administration leak box.
You mean that Bannon is in trouble?
The way the IC works, they create trouble. That’s how these trench fights are won and lost in the NSC and the WH.
No. I don’t think he is in trouble at all. The NYT is reporting that Trumpers indicate this is just part of the normal process they had planned on all along.
A senior White House official presented the move as a logical evolution, not a setback for Mr. Bannon. He had originally been put on the principals committee to keep an eye on Mr. Flynn and to “de-operationalize” the National Security Council after the Obama administration, this official said on condition of anonymity to discuss internal dynamics. This official said that process had been completed.
Is it even plausable that Bannon’s role would be scaled back in any real sense? Especially when he retains his security clearance? Do you think that Trump would throw Bannon under the bus as a result of anything the IC tells him? I think it’s probably too early to draw much in the way of conclusions at this point. Color me skeptical, as usual. I would imagine that it won’t take any more than 24-48 hours before the massive Trump leak tank provides us all with a more concise summation of events.
If the Trumpers say it, it’s a lie. You should know that by now. IMO the fact that McMaster has restored a normal IC-oriented membership to the NSC along with Bannon getting thumped shows the IC has retaken control of the NSC. The reasons are probably a combination of the major and serious leaks by the Trump operatives plus this last F-U to the international community by Assad. With clear evidence that the Trumpers on the NSC have produced a political disaster, an ethical disaster, and a policy disaster, McMaster got the authority to kick them out.
With Trumper saying to all who will listen “this was my plan all along!”
When the chips are down, Trump will only trust family and his long term employees. So that means family because his long term employees are running the business.
Every single non family person in his administration has an agenda separate from Trump’s agenda…which is Trump, Inc. Only his family can be trusted with Trump Inc. Slowly non family will show incompetence that hurts Trump Inc, or they will expose their separate agenda. At that point they will be demoted, with family taking up the slack. This is a recipe for disaster far beyond our imagination…because his family are incompetent grifters.
Kushner and Ivanka will ruin us all.
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Don’t agree. Kushner’s elevation — as gross as they are and as incompetent as he is — is a direct blow to Bannon and the Mercer family influence. It’s a zero sum game here. Kushner wins, Bannon loses.
There was a time I would have found that plausible. But now I’m not so sure. Kushner and Bannon seem to get along a lot better than I would have thought. I don’t think either Bannon or Kushner are anywhere near as smart as a lot of people believe, they just seem so in comparison to Trump.
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/01/jared-kushner-steve-bannon-bromance
That’s outdated information. That’s how I understood it before, but Kushner recognizes Bannon is a source of a lot of the failures and there is increasing friction:
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Also Bekah Mercer would have practically no influence if Bannon leaves, reportedly.
i won’t argue with that. It makes more sense than the bromance thing.
Now can we please just axe Princess Ivanka and Prince Jared from the Court of His Majesty?
They will be the last to go.
And don’t be surprised if eventually, as things go really bad, Eric and Junior get offices in the WH with their own portfolios.
We are at the beginning of a downward spiral. And it goes down a long way.
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Was he finally arrested for a DUI or something?
Here’s something similar from another angle:
https://shift.newco.co/https-medium-com-peteleyden-why-trumps-inauguration-is-not-the-beginning-of-a
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He likens any progress of a Clinton presidency to trench warfare and that the right would have obstructed her even more strenuously than they did Obama.
Hahahahaha. Good one. If we define “two generations” as “six months” maybe I’ll jump aboard that hope “that this will finally do it.” It’s going to have to get much worse than this.
We can only hope that Trump takes down what passes for conservatism in this country for at least a generation. It’s a hell of a way to do it though. The collateral damage in the meantime…Damn.
I don’t think DT is capable of thinking creatively about anything. Since he destroys everything he touches…like someone who self-sabotages because success is too scary…he seems consistent in his underlying need to sabotage holding this office.
It’s not success that’s scary to Trump. It’s taking responsibility. Success without responsibility is his guiding star, and you see how he has pursued it through life. But he will never achieve it because it is an illusion. So what he achieves, at best, is illusion, and that becomes very unstable when you demonstrably are not fulfilling your responsibilities. This goal is aptly symbolized by a big part of his business model: selling his “brand”, which is an illusion and which burdens him with no responsibilities for building or running anything.
Jonathan Chait thinks the Republicans will come to regret that Hillary Clinton wasn’t elected president. His reasoning is solid. If elected, Clinton would have found her legislative agenda mostly blocked by a Republican Congress, and there’s a decent chance that the left would have disintegrated in frustration, leading to more big midterm gains for the GOP and possibly an easy victory in the 2020 presidential race.
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But he was wasn’t thinking three steps ahead, like Chait is asking us to do. He wasn’t calculating that the GOP would be better off in the end with a President Clinton.
Back during the primary I was trying to get people to look three steps ahead. In fact, I said that were Clinton to win that people better take seriously she’d only be a one-term president because, even with winning the popular vote total, Congress is still in GOP control. So they’d do nothing to help her and people would be even more pissed off than they are now. So yes, the GOP establishment could have lived with Clinton for one term since they controlled the House and Senate. Do you think Paul Ryan will last as Speaker through Trump’s first, and hopefully only, term?
If Ryan survives the debt ceiling vote, I’ll be modestly surprised.
It’s clear that Trump lacks foresight in any meaningful sense, so speaking in terms of his “choices” and “decisions” seems somewhat artificial to me. I don’t think he really wanted to be President, then or now. And, now that he’s trapped, he needs to rely on experienced hands so that he can avoid looking like a total buffoon 24/7. Since the only people he trusts other than family members and Russians are far-right members of the Republican party, it was inevitable that his “administration” would take on the look, feel, and goals of far-right Republicans, regardless of the positions he took on the campaign trail. Bipartisanship was never in the cards because it is not something his handlers would condone and because Trump is perfectly happy, between weekend vacations, 1) ruling by fiat; 2) signing meaningless executive orders that sound important to stupid people; and 3) rubberstamping whatever bills the Republicans manage to get through Congress and retroactively pretending that they were part of his campaign platform.
I think the mistake here is thinking that Trump really cares about his “agenda.” He just cares about the optics of it and will simply proclaim up is down so his supporters stick with him. Eventually he will probably believe it. Most are still in the “giving him a chance” mode or that he has to finish putting down the establishment first.
If his main objectives are enriching himself and keeping his voters loyal that is still happening.
The reality is that Der Trumper is a mean-spirited unqualified demagogue, not a politician. This of course was seen as his “strength” by the incompetent white electorate that saw fit to allow him to play president. It seems unlikely that the sort of unconventional coalition politics that you have envisioned was ever within his grasp, either intellectually, temperamentally or experiencially.
Indeed, such qualities are far, far beyond the talents and constraints that the imagined “moderate” Congressional Repubs possess. Many of them are actual politicians, such as Cryin’ Boner, yet they never made the slightest noises about finding a way to govern the country or behave as though Dem reps were elected officials with actual votes. A bipartisan governing coalition in the national legislature is simply unthinkable in the failed nation that we see splayed out before us.
The “conservative” movement, by demonizing the hated Dem party for over 20 years, has created a universe in which only a partisan majority is considered to have votes. If that partisan majority cannot agree on some thing or other, which has been the case with the incompetent House Repubs, then nothing happens legislatively. That has been situation for the past 16 years, with the slight exception of Obama’s first two years, before that extremely short-lived Dem majority was permanently destroyed by the effects of Citizens United in the election of 2010. Citizens United money and their own haplessness has sunk them even further since 2010, as incredible as it seems given the fact that the opposing party is ethically corrupt and intellectually braindead.
In any event, the country has been rendered ungovernable by the “conservative” movement, which so far in this brave new world of TrumpAmerica has been unable even to take the first steps in accomplishing its supposed desire to repeal the 20th Century. I have faith that they will sober up and begin to accomplish it—and if they don’t, then we will have the comic situation that they are corrupt hucksters that don’t even believe their own bullshit, despite getting the incompetent white electorate to fall for it. But then the “conservative” movement has long seemed a grift to those outside the faith.
The Repubs—though the majority party–are not a governing party for the simple reason that they do not think a nation of some 350 millions should have a national government (or that a state should have one either for that matter). Instead the country should be run as a militarist corpocracy, which is indeed how we are run. The delusion is believing that a national government still exits.
Trump is consumed by vengeance and extreme narcissism. This means he can’t think straight most of the time let alone think ahead strategically. He’s never had to do that in his business career and since he really knows little about Washington politics he’s not able to d so as President.
“… his victory was a victory over both parties, and the Washington Establishment didn’t accept him irrespective of which party they represented.”
I think this is the heart of your argument. And it is true in an obvious sense, but it is oversimplified. Sure the Washington Establishment of both parties didn’t accept Trump in a certain sense. But both the leadership and the rank-and-file of the Republican Party came together for his nomination and election campaign because the most important thing for Republicans is WINNING. “It’s not how you play the game, it’s whether you win.” A victory offers opportunities, and the Republicans will always choose opportunity over principle.
The most obvious signs of this are that they got behind Trump’s campaign just as they would have for anybody else. They expected to be rewarded for that, and the rewards they got may be seen in the inroads they made into his administration — Reince Priebus, Rex Tillerson, Nikki Haley, Michael Pompeo, Elaine Chao, and, in this number I would definitely include Betsy DeVos. And let’s not leave out the most important of all, Mike Pence. Let’s not leave out billionaire moguls like Stephen A. Schwarzman. And these are only some of the best known.
In so doing, the GOP has now committed itself to protecting him (Chait’s point), because they have bound their fate so tightly to his. That’s what happens when you back a winner whose win turns out to be so problematic.
None of this has anything to do with what they “really” think of Trump or whether they truly “accept” him.
Once again, your rhetorical strategy here is to rehearse the various possible moves logically available to Trump for a successful presidency. But in reality there was no way Trump would have or could have done any of this. First, as many here point out, because of his personality and lack of intelligence, but secondly, because there isn’t anywhere near as much space between him and the GOP as you make out here.
As I read it, i was continually reminded of the old Yiddish saying that “If my grandmother had testicles she would have been my grandfather.” Well true, but …