The key point:
Putin lies as a display of power. Only powerful people can lie and get away with it. The more blatant the lie, the greater the show of power when your listener cannot or dare not contradict you.
Authoritarians have a standard operating procedure. This is one of the key points. Those who enable this enable the other elements of an authoritarian state, including its use of police power.
The US media, and especially the print media, are playing as foil and enabling this by not daring to report what is factual and true as counterpoint but leaving everything as a matter of opinion.
A very curious statement about a head of state:
Putin is a persuasive speaker because his arguments are internally coherent once you accept his premise that Russia always means well.
And what US Presidents had that Trump completely misses.
Oliver Stone seems to have treated Putin the way the US media treat Trump.
Except for scenes like this:
That said, nobody could properly prepare to quiz Putin about his work, because nobody outside the inner circle of the Russian government has much idea of what Putin does all day, nor how his power is exercised. How does a small man with highly polished shoes persuade a nation of 144 million people to live in awe of him? When Putin invites Stone into the Kremlin situation room to observe what he says are his daily video-linked conversations with regional and Defense Ministry officials, it is impossible to tell whether the banalities they exchange–“Right now there are no traffic jams in the Ural Federal District”–have been scripted for the occasion, or whether that is what the governance of Russia is like most of the time.
The hope post-Yeltsin had to do with safety:
There is a touching moment when Putin thinks back to his appointment as acting prime minister in 1999. His main concern, he says, was “Where to hide my children.” Russia in those days–to some extent even now–was The Sopranos writ large. A respectable adversary was one who might kill you but not your family.
In 2001 I sat by chance behind Putin’s two daughters at a recital given by the violinist Vadim Repin in the Moscow Conservatory. Even with bodyguards on either side of them, their presence in public was an act of daring. In those days it was possible to invest at least some hope in a president who allowed his daughters out to enjoy Beethoven.
The fact that most in the US don’t know about Putin’s family speaks of politics in Russia, but it also speaks of how the leader is framed for US audiences. The stereotype of the Russian bear is a geopolitical statement and theory that sometimes gets in the way in the same way as some other nations framing of the US as the home of the ugly Yanqui. Too bad that Trump is trying his best to live up to the stereotype. Putin, like Krushchev, is doing the opposite. That worked well for Krushchev in 1962 at the height of the blowback from his biggest strategic miscalculation.
It is hard to say when authoritarianism ends and exactly how it comes to pass. For Spain it was the restoration of the monarchy that brought a democratic constitutional monarchy like many other in Europe.
Who knows what these trends portend or really what Putin’s reaction to them will be. Some authoritarians under the right kind of pressure have given way to more democratic forms in practice. Given the experience in the Duma under Yeltsin and the general economic collapse of Russia in the mid-1990s, not to mention the conversion of the major managers to oligarchs effectively through the theft of former state property, Putin is likely to hold the reins tight. Too tight, and there is change:
It is, of course, not only on the American side that things change. If Stone had gone to the Kremlin this past week he would have had to maneuver his way past some of the biggest anti-Putin demonstrations in years, led by the anti-corruption activist Alexei Navalny, as Masha Gessen reported on June 14. For Stone, Putin is still the miracle worker who got Russia back into working order after it had collapsed under Yeltsin. But for most of the past decade the Russia economy has been undermined by low oil prices and the cumulative effects of corruption and cronyism. Navalny’s rise strongly suggests that fatigue with Putin is growing to the point at which a serious political challenge is becoming possible–or, at least, a challenge might be possible if Putin did not control the political process, and if intransigent critics of Putin did not have an awkward habit of ending up dead.
In all this, it is good to remember that Russia has parity (by intention and agreement) with the US in nuclear weapons. The trend so far has been toward further reductions. When conditions permit the next round are uncertain, given the need for an enemy as the Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan wars grind on without a definite conclusion. An enemy that can rally the American people to transcend their political and cultural differences. That is a dangerous combination.
At the moment Putin is the only Russian head of state available to bargain with.
And who knows how much of what happens is Putin and how much is the Russian Deep State?
We talk here of the CIA tripping up Presidents and hoodwinking them. Can we be sure that Putin controls the FSB and not vice versa? The military have always had a big influence in Russia as well
The post-factual world on every level.
Believe no one.
If they get to the point where they are being thoroughly covered…overwhelmingly negatively or overwhelmingly positively, from any corner of the globe…they are necessarily full of shit.
The only possible real truth lies at the outskirts of coverage.
Where the outliers live.
The rest?
From all power centers?
Simply more necessary control bullshit.
Bet on it.
ASG
Followers always make leaders. Frequent contradictory transitions of power are facilitated by the loyalty of followers to a role instead of the personal. If the Russian deep state ran things; there could be frequent changes of leadership within the tolerance of the deep state, just as in the US. It is clear that among the people who matter to Putin’s power, there is a cult of personality, just as there is among the the people who matter to Trump. You don’t see the gears grinding in the deep state bureaucracy relative to Putin like you do here relative to Trump.
Militaries have a big influence anywhere they exist because they are the force of arms that win the battle of force. Putin and the FSB and the military share a common bureaucratic culture more than most Presidents do with the US military and deep state. Putin is constrained and depends on that common culture for control.
Just another in a very long series of anti-Putin hit pieces in the US MSM. I don’t read the NYRB regularly, but every few months I see something from the Review cited here and it turns out to be the same stuff you could read in the NYT, WaPo and all the other usual suspects of anti-Russian propaganda, only dressed up in scholarly clothing.
From what I read, Cottrell manages to view everything Putin through a harshly negative lens, even when he cites some positive qualities. Those exist, Cottrell suggests, primarily for darker ends. Being well informed for instance — all the better to help Putin deceive.
The anti-Putin demonstrations: did Cottrell manage to mention to his readers that Navalny a) is an ultra-nationalist, b) is backed by a whopping 4% of the Russian public, and c) was recently in violation of his demonstration permit, sneaking from his agreed-to site to another at the last minute, leading to his rightful prosecution.
Does Cottrell mention anywhere in his propaganda piece that Putin and the govt do arrange for proper elections, and allow in international election observers. Do we allow that in the US? Not that I’m aware of. Arguably elections in Russia are freer and more democratic than what occurs here at the national level. And ours are getting increasingly problematic — massive voter caging and threats to existing easy voter registration now being undertaken at the DOJ level. And our elections were dubious even before Trump, as 2000 and 2016 attest.
Also unmentioned in the piece is how Putin has enjoyed very high approval ratings for years, polls that are not in dispute. Seems as if Putin is taking care of people’s needs over there — jobs and probably health care — and they appreciate him for it. An embarrassing little fact that the US propaganda machine prefers not to bring up.
And that title Cottrell uses — hard not to think of Hannah Arendt on Eichmann, and I don’t think the implied reference is just an innocent coincidence.
As to Putin the “authoritarian” per THD, this goes too far and unfairly puts him in some unsavory company. Compared to the uncriticized (by US officialdom) President Xi of China, Putin is a progressive reformist democrat, practically a Bernie Sanders (only smarter about FP).
And is the non-austerian Putin — who has successfully rebuilt Russia’s economy, or at least reversed its long downward spiral, and done so w/o crippling public services to the people — is Putin thereby more of an “authoritarian” than, say, Teresa May and the Tories or austerity for everyone else Merkel or the about-to-be-austerian Macron and his nearly one-party rule in the national assembly?
Putin is not only the only Russian head of state “available to bargain with”, but it’s a damn good thing that is the case, as he has a proven track record of trying to work constructively, as a partner, with the US and the west. And I’m not sure who in Russia would be recommended as a better alternative. I am however sure that the Deep Staters here, and their MSM and Dem friends would much prefer a more malleable puppet of the US in the Kremlin leadership. Someone a little more Yeltsin like, maybe only without all the drinking.
Not gonna happen.
I thought someone would notice the “banality” twist in complaints that the Oliver Stone interview as banal, just as most interviews of US Presidents tended to be before the era of “gotcha journalism”.
My main point stands. The most important thing about the US relationship with Russia and any President’s relationship with Putin is that the US and Russia have parity in nuclear weapons. Their ability to agree to reduce the number of their nuclear weapons is very relevant to the rest of the world. Putin has been a negotiating partner to do that once — with the final deal being signed and ratified during the Obama administration.
The weird thing about the current situation is the GOP silence about Russia and Putin. No intra-party sniping at all — yet.
Re the Stone interviews, just another example of Cottrell seeing things from a negative anti-Putin (and anti-“conspiracy theorist” Stone) perspective. Would any reasonable person really expect the Russian Situation Room filming to be anything other than a display of routine communications? And on the rest, Cottrell wouldn’t have been happy unless Stone grilled Putin cynically on Day One about all the usual negative things the western media alleges against him — e.g., journalists killed on his orders, political opponents arrested, etc.
Cottrell really does sound like someone who once worked for The Economist, a small-c conservative mag friendly with the Establishment and happy with the status quo. Back in the day, way back probably, the NYRB seemed to have a less obvious neocon/centrist interventionist/cold warrior mindset. Things have clearly changed. And it doesn’t go without notice that the NYRB — along with The New Yorker, the NYT and other major US publications — no longer publishes Sy Hersh, at least about Syria and things involving Russia.
I’m not sure what the formerly mostly credible NYRB is good for these days, and given their hostile stance on Putin-Russia, it’s probably not worth the time to read them even on the more strictly cultural matters. Looks like a Deep State-penetrated, sellout organization to me.
As for the nuclear arms situation, while stockpile reductions are important and needed, I think more relevant today and to Putin is the recent escalation by US-Nato of the military situation in Europe and eastern Eu, particularly the missile “defense” systems now operational. Perceptions are crucial — and Putin not unreasonably sees this buildup as a direct threat to Russian security. The US/Nato responds that it’s all about Iran, but no one, including Vlad, is buying that it’s anything other than missiles (easily converted to offensive) aimed at Russia.
Very destabilizing. And Russia will naturally respond in kind — which the US MSM will then interpret as “aggressive” and “provocative” actions by Putin. So it goes in the propaganda war currently underway by the western media.
As for the GOP, let’s wait and see post-G20 summit, after there’s a clearer idea of what was discussed and possibly agreed upon. But until then, we can always count on Mr & Mrs Lindsay Graham, the US MSM, and many cold warrior centrist-interventionist Dems (including a number on this board) to be carping from the cheap seats about how Trump needs to get tougher on Putin.
New diaries on G20 happening:
○ Trump’s Revival of anti-EU Sentiment in Warsaw
○ Trump Meets Putin Ahead of G20 Meeting In Hamburg
○ G20: First Lady Melania Attracts a Smile from Vladimir