A couple of Republican senators said some long overdue shit that needed to be said two years ago.
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Probably would have done more good then. As it is, it will probably just hand the seat to a trump believer.
I don’t know about “probably.” If the GOP retains the seat, then you’ll be right. We should win it though.
The election, of course, will provide Jeff Flake an opportunity to demonstrate that his “words” in dissent from Trump are more than “wind” (as such statements are often characterized in George R.R. Martin’s work). The Arizona GOP is on track to nominate a hard-core Trumpist, likely Kelli Ward. If Flake really wants to obstruct the advance of Trumpism in his party, he will at an absolute minimum refuse to endorse such a person; ideally, he’d condemn them. That may seem a lot to ask, but if anti-Trumpers ever want their party back, they are going to have to take definite and public positions against those who want to make Trumpism the permanent GOP identity. The time for silence is long past.
Should be noted, that 2 Breitbarters have quit Ward’s campaign because they think she’s a fake Trumpist.
What does that even mean?
I am never that confident about Democrats, ha. I hope you are correct though.
I like the optimism 🙂
Who is likely to run for the Democrats?
Kyrsten Sinema is running. She’s also a spellcheck nightmare: Kirsten Cinema.
Probably not AZ. Kyrsten Sinema is the likely Democratic candidate and strong quals against chemtrails enthusiast “Dr.” Kelli Ward. As for TN, most likely a Trumper win, I agree. In general, the Senate race has become more fluid than first perceived earlier this year. While, GOP retains the edge to maintain its majority, no longer a sure thing. Mainly, because of Trump.
I’ll believe a Dem can win statewide in Arizona when I see it. I agree that she’s a pretty strong candidate though and we need more of those to run everywhere.
Too little, too late.
Just read the full text of Jeff Flake’s powerful prepared speech. Would that we might see more of his fellow GOP follow his example.
Not holding my breath.
Since both of them are staying in til the end of their term and have both promised to speak out they are most certainly softening the ground for other members to opt in.
Down the road, when Mueller starts going public with his reporting we’re going to need all the voices we can get and as much softened territory as can be tilled.
So I’m ok with their timing because, after all, they did step forward instead of sit on their hands like most of their colleagues are doing.
Will we ever see anything from an R who isn’t retiring or dying?
Presumably they all think that to speak out against Trump is to incur the wrath of the base, and hence electoral death. It would have to be someone in Senatorial Class 3. Rand Paul or Marco Rubio, maybe. I don’t seem much hope for that tool Pat Toomey.
That lead question is exactly what everyone is wondering about. As to Flake and Corker, the credit they deserve is a great deal less than that which they will predictably be given. Dissents of this kind before last November could have done the country great good; for that, however, they had neither the conscience nor the courage. As things stand, the only possible way they can help repair the damage they have done is to use their Senate votes to put the Republican Party back on a track toward reasonable, truthful, and evidence-based governance. In light of their support for the Senate budget resolution, no one should have great expectations.
Well they may get another bite at the apple when the resolution is merged with the House. But I don’t look for much. I tend to think this whole dissent thing is kinda meaningless, as it has gone so far.
From TPM:
“It’s just tragic. Flake is a completely honest broker… It’s a very depressing, very depressing day.” – Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA)
“I’m surprised and I’m very saddened.” – Sen. Chris Coons (D-DE)
“These are times when we need Republican colleagues particularly who are willing to do the difficult things of standing up to a president who clearly is violating basic tenants of the Constitution every day.” – Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-MI)
Or are you quoting someone (TPM?) misquoting her?
Ha! I’m sure it’s a misquote. Maybe she’s making a subtle joke about rent-seeking?
That jumped out to me too immediately. Hard to believe Stabenow would confuse tenants with tenets; more likely the transcriber (IMO).
“Vox” has two thoughtful pieces making essentially the same point: that Flake and Corker by leaving the Senate are helping Trumpism, not hurting it — among other things, by sending the message that “the only Republicans who can speak out against Trump are those who have abandoned any hope of a political future,” as Ezra Klein puts it.
https:/www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/24/16536982/jeff-flake-retirement-trump-speech
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/www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/24/16537018/flake-retire-trump-why
The only thing Republicans can do BEFORE the 2018 election. Remember that Trump just won a shocking victory less than 1 year ago. Normally, the sitting president of your party gets more party loyalty than Trump is getting in his first year. Instead he’s feuding with everyone.
But, what happens if the Republicans lose a ton of seats in November 2018? That is going to be unmistakeably tied to criticism of Trump. At that point a LOT of Republican moderates are going to be able to speak out, and they will probably have the support of many corporate funders who are angry at the administration.
In 2011 the Democrats did not repudiate Obama despite taking a savage beating in the elections, because Obama did everything he could to help and support them. Trump does the opposite. He throws them constantly under the bus. They would repudiate him right now if they could get away with it.
After the 2018 election a lot more of them are going to conclude they can get away with it.
Maybe, but it is the voters who decide who stays in power (with the help of mainly GOP gerrymandering and tons of RW money, of course). So, HOR remains extremely vulnerable to Trumpista primary candidates but the Senate is too in the usual suspect places. IMO. As a result, AZ, TX and NV are all vulnerable for the GOP because the majority of likely voters are not as crazy as the Trumpistas. MO, ND and MT are vulnerable for Dems for traditional rightwing reasons (though McCaskill is a survivor). I’m one of those that think Manchin is not in as much trouble as people assume. So the Senate may be in play this early and who knows what the situation will be like a year from now because of Trumpian chaos and GOP Congress incompetence.
That’s a correct assessment however. If you are a republican you don’t have a political future if you don’t support Trump enough.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t Flake and Corker pretty much consistently voted GOP all the way including voting for some of the more egregious legislation that Trump’s rammed down everyone’s throats?? And didn’t these 2 bend their knees and say Trump was great during the campaign?
I’m just not feeling the love, myself. In fact, I’m pretty angry. Screw these 2 scaredy KKKats. They only stand up to “say something” when they’ve decided that they’ve got nothing to lose.
Ditto with John McCain, who stood by meekly when Trump dissed him for being a “traitor” and probably voted for Trump. Now that he’s dying (sorry about that), McCain’s decided to be all “mavericky” again, allegedly. But he’s also been willing to vote in a lot of GOP crap in the meantime.
Count me out as someone ever so sympathetic-y and all lovestruck over their alleged “courage” or “honesty” or whatever.
It’s too easy to say stuff when you’ve got nothing to lose. These losers didn’t speak out or really vote with the “conscience” that they purport to have when it would’ve been more meaningful.
Kinda like that creep Charlie Sykes who spent DECADES enabling the Republican party to become what it is, and now suddenly he’s developed a “conscience” after he created these Nazi creeps… and is making a fortune out of saying what those on the left have been saying for decades… while we were being resoundingly dissed by the likes of people like Sykes.
PFFFFFFFT!
I don’t know. I’m pretty sure he’s been consistent in voting GOP all the way.
Did he support blocking Merrick Garland? I think so, but I could be wrong.
If someone knows the answers, I’d be happy to know.
Really busy so can’t do the leg work myself.
still not feeling “the love.”
This sums it up for me.
Good fucking Germans, every god damn one of them
If any of them were POTUS we would be right where we are now, policy wise. Encluding being surrounded by nazis.
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Lol I was going to post this too.
Nice to know we frequent the same haunts.
Flake and Corker have both been some pretty loyal supporters of Trumpism, when it comes to their voting record.
I am finding it quite amusing to watch the liberal pundits on TV tonight acting like this is the canary in the coal mine that everyone has been waiting for, and “the door has now been opened” to finally allow a massive repudiation of the President by Republican Congress critters across the nation. I hate to be the one to break it to the punditocracy, but it just ain’t happenin’, folks!
The fact is, a a real convincing case can be made that these developments might actually BENEFIT Trump in the long run.
I think much of the left is getting ahead of itself in pronouncing this a major victory for Trump opponents, and a definitive sign that the wheels are finally coming off the Republican clown car. I don’t think we are going to be that fortunate.
Yes, Flake and Corker and McCain and all the other anti-Trump Republicans are terrible people. They’re Republicans! They support awful policies and actively seek to make life worse for everyone, thanks to their inhuman and inhumane ideology.
And yet, even from that position, they’re sending out a warning. They’re calling out danger.
The old saying “don’t look a gift horse in the mouth” isn’t entirely appropriate here but it’s pretty damn close.
I don’t care if the canary in the coal mine is a tax cheat on the side. He’s singing!
I’m not going to drive my ship onto the rocks of Jeff Flake fandom. He’s always been a malign influence on the body politic. Still pretty damn happy he’s willing to say out loud what the rest of that vile party won’t.
Agree.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t Flake and Corker pretty much consistently voted GOP all the way including voting for some of the more egregious legislation that Trump’s rammed down everyone’s throats??
Yes!!! Just like Corker, Flake and McCain did tonight!! Corker, McCain and Flake are going to help Trump advance his horrible, anti-worker agenda to the very end.
Here is a comment left on my Facebook page:
Seems about right to me.
Yes, WTF does this do for me? These guys are going to vote the party line no matter what they say about Trump. It comes down to what happens to the seats next year. And on that score the republicans seem to have a lock on the senate. But by then the horse will be out of the barn anyway, and whatever these assholes wanted will be done. This may be just what Trump wanted, to remake the party in his and Bannon’s vision. Besides it is now time to go after Hillary again on that uranium. And maybe Obama this time.
What does it do for you?
If the Trump administration crashes and burns, the first sign is going to be the Republicans with nothing to lose speaking out. Then the ones in blue states, who are likely safer from Trumpers in the primary but fear the general electorate. And so on.
Every anti-Trump apostate brings us closer to the day we get that malign little turd out of office.
I suppose I am far too cynical to buy into that. But I agree it would be extra nice if the Republican Party imploded.
Too cynical or too rational? For over two years, the political pros (GOP and Dem) and strictly partisan Dem voters have been putting all their chips on the imminent implosion of Trump. A naive bad bet when any halfway decent GOP or Dem opponent should have been able to beat an ignoramus with a ridiculous comb-over and really long ties.
It’s one of them, show me.
Harvard-Harris poll, page 80, Republican only respondents:
Do you think Steve Bannon’s movement will make the Republican Party stronger or weaker.
Stronger: 56% (men: 60%)
Weaker: 44% (men: 40%)
Weirdly those that self-identified as GOP liberal and GOP conservative split the same way on this question. It’s the GOP moderates (57%) that split in favor of weaker.
Interesting on page 81 – Who is the leader of the Republican Party now? (again only Republican respondents)
Trump: 39% (aggregate)
Only 43% of GOP conservatives view Trump as the current GOP leader. That drops to 27% for GOP moderates.
Jeff Flake, John McCain and Bob Corker are Republicans, which in this day and age means they must do and say 6 horrible things before breakfast every day.
So, whatever criticisms they may have of Trump mean nothing, except to give publicity to what everybody knows. Not that it matters. The 39% will never turn on Trump, no matter what he does. The only thing to do is turn them out of office. Period.
Well, Jeff Flake’s retirement means a chance to pick up 2 Senate seats from AZ in 2018, if John McCain retires before the November elections, which is possible as his health deteriorates. He is also locked into an escalating fight with Trump, which is going to incline him less and less to do whatever Trump wants, and less inclined to take a lot of flack from the right wing about anything he does.
Whatever way it breaks, it doesn’t look like the GOP will get its act together before the election.
You write:
Riiiight…
And then they will retire into their post-senatorial fortunes. Too little, too late. Fuck them and the elephant they rode in on. Also the donkey that hangs out with that elephant.
MikeInOhio said something above about how the “liberal pundits” are slobbering over this latest piece of clickbait. I haven’t seen that because I do not watch said liberal pundits, but I am sure that this is happening. Just another news cycle’s worth of crap. Trump is still president; the Democratic Party is still just as crooked as is the Republican Party; the latter day version of Eisenhower’s Military Industrial Complex is still in command of the nation and the U.S. is still waging war in every corner of the globe…overt and covert war. Bet on it.
Here is the real deal. Read it and weep…that is, if you are still capable of human shame.
Read it and weep.
Or…go on prattling about Flake and Corker.
Flake and Corker. Sounds like an ambulance chaser law firm.
On some level, that exactly describes the entire U.S. government.
An ambulance chaser law firm that creates its own accidents.
Unbelievable.
Wake the fuck up.
AG
P.S. Some people here have castigated me for reprinting entire articles. This one is from Counterpunch and they accept no advertising. No harm, no foul. But…why do I do it? i do it because I do not believe that many of the people who read and contribute to this blog are committed enough to click over to an article that totally trashes their neolib political stances and opinions. But I also believe that they might at least skim something that is right in front of their faces, and…hope springing eternally, as it must…maybe some few might see the beginnings of a light at the end of their kneejerk tunnel.
I do keep trying…
Arthur, I read this and found it amusing that you don’t see this as just another form of click-bait.
There’s nothing new in this article that you or any of the readers here don’t already know.
The article exists purely to highlight something which you are already very angry about. You read it and get angry all over again and then lash out the “neo-centrists” at Booman’s blogs who are just so resistant to your style of dogged propagandizing.
This is your drug and you are a mark just like everyone else.
You writer:
I have been angry about this situation since the JFK murder, ishmael2; I’ve not been “clickbaited” into it. That anger has deepened and developed over the years as I began to understand just what this country is and what it has done to millions upon millions of people, including many of its own citizens.
And yes, sometimes that anger overflows. When it does, it usually overflows at self-satisfied, pseudo-“progressive” Dems, because the Democratic Party is the only game in town that has even the remotest possibility of stopping this ongoing depredation and slaughter. I regularly drive through this country, looking at unimaginable wealth on almost any mile of highway. Millions of dollars’ worth of cars and trucks within eyesight alone, speeding in every direction, testimony to the fruits of its economic might. I drive through town after town, village after village and see miles upon miles of expensive houses that on average shelter only 3 or 4 people per house. Mostly white people, mind you. In the towns and villages themselves the stores and malls testify further to the fruits of “The American Way.” And I ask myself why, with all of this wealth…wealth that is not only “American,” but exists at the same level Canada, Japan, all of Europe and several other fully developed-coast-to-coast countries…why must it be supported by human misery elsewhere?
Some Christian churches demand a tithe…10% of their members’ income…to be used for good works. Why not the U.S.? We could be damned near self-sufficient if we simply withdrew from international power games, stopped being the cop for the other developed nations and demanded that the rich pay their fair share of the profits of this economic machine. But we don’t do that. Why? Because of the obscene profits…way above and beyond the profits that sustain this country’s overall lifestyle…that flow into the coffers of the .01% due to the misery of millions of people. Billions, even. Profits that have been used over the past-WW II years to essentially buy this country’s government, its two political parties and the media that are used to sustain the illusion that “The American Way” is the right way. The only right way.
I am here to tell you, ishmael2, that the system I sketch out above cannot be continued much longer. It is under attack from every corner of the globe, and the cyberattacks, physical terrorist attacks…they will eventually go nuclear, you know…and plain old military buildups from such countries as Russia, China, Iran and North Korea are eventually going to force the U.S. into a totally untenable position.
Then what?
Armageddon, most likely.
In closing…I am happy to have provided some “amusement” for you.
Feel free to laugh your way right into nonexistence.
Or…demand that the Democratic Party reinvent itself.
Or…start another political party.
And while you’re at it…wake the fuck up.
Sincerely…
Arthur Sheridan Gilroy, proud member of the Independent Party.
Nah.. I’m not a Democrat and don’t really care if the party lives or dies and won’t waste any energy on it. I’m just going to take care of my own as the world burns.
Please continue your evangelistic efforts at forming a third party and/o Democratic party reform though. You’re really great at convincing folks that your worldview is appealing.
As you must…
There’s more, though.
Think on it.
How exactly do you propose to do this in an Armageddon-level disaster?
Really.
AG.
P.S. And…I really don’t care if I am “good at convincing folks that my worldview is appealing.” I only care about the truths of the matter.
Like one of my heroes.
My experiments with truth.
We all work on our own levels.
We do not choose those levels; we are born to them.
But…I do keep trying.
You?
Might as well imagine those pollution free, personal flying machines that everybody can afford. Both may someday be possible, but that day is a long time from now. The “how ya gonna pay for it” question isn’t asked when the budget item is war/MIC. The standard for anything that could possibly improve the lives of the less fortunate is different.
It’s the ACA federal subsidies that enrages rightwingers (and expanded Medicaid). All together, those annual costs are but a third of what were asked to imagine could be spent on foreign infrastructure. At the same time as it’s obvious that the US infrastructure is crumbling or decades beyond its original expected lifespan.
Well…while we are imagining:
Imagine that a candidate for president with the publiciity-hound instincts of Donald Trump coupled with a well-functioning soul won the presidency.
Imagination is all we’ve got, Marie.
And…it is also what the current Democratic controllers lack.
I prefer to…”imagine”…that the world will survive its current attacks of bad news…nuclear war, infrastructure collapses, ecostructure collapse and the ensuing environmental armageddon, total overpopulation breakdown and all the rest.
imagination is what got us out of the trees and caves, Marie. Lack of it is what will send us back.
If we’re lucky…
AG
No imagination necessary for something that has already been seen. Although it’s been a long time since the last one was seen because since Truman, it’s not the candidate but media/publicity/party pros that run the campaigns. It was both Trump and Sanders that has those “pros” shaking in their boots. Authentic — ragged, raw, and even ugly — is supposed to lose to slick, etc.
“Authentic — ragged, raw, and even ugly — is supposed to lose to slick, etc.”
What if there’s been a sea change, Marie?
We’ll know, soon enough.
AG
No sea change. If seen, ugly, raw, and authentic sells; as does ugly, raw, and faux authentic (ie Trump) and ugly, raw, and inauthentic.) Seemingly raw is one measure people use to gauge authenticity.
A hunger for authenticity and non-corrupt always exists within electorates. Tough to get that in presidential elections because voters reward inauthentic and corrupt from dog catcher through governor and senator.
Three changes that allowed a nincompoop like Trump to slip through the cracks: 1) monetizing national news coverage 2) dropping the fairness doctrine 3) Buckley v. Valeo.
Sanders was the only candidate that played by the old rules. No affiliated Superpac — the big change with the CU SCOTUS decision. (Politifact played a bit fast and loose on this question because it’s not only “affiliated” but also where the SuperPac gets its money that are relevant. Large contributions from corporate entities and mega-wealthy individuals does not fund United Nurses. The same wasn’t true for Trump’s formally non-affiliated Superpac.) However, not being a media darling and with the TV media in the tank for HRC, the absence of a fairness doctrine hurt him.
>>the publiciity-hound instincts of Donald Trump coupled with a well-functioning soul
no. that’s matter and antimatter, not combinable.
As Marie3 says above-FDR. Possibly Bobby Kennedy too. And MLK Jr.
AG
As AG said, FDR who mastered print and radio coverage. To that I’d add Teddy Roosevelt — public appearances and print media. In his time Honest Abe seemed to have been publicity savvy. Would add Jefferson but tend to stumble on the “well-functioning soul” criteria.
A difference between media savvy and publicity hound. The latter is always about the person. That’s why I wouldn’t include MLK, jr. as AG did. Would include Chuck Schumer as a publicity hound.
And as were talking about the skill/talent of the actor and not his/her team that does the heavy lifting on this, wouldn’t include RFK either (soul? not as unquestioned as his fans believe, but he was a work in progress when he was murdered).
Still it points out alternative uses for the money we spend, money that could do good as opposed to killing. The ACA had a target on its back from day one due to the funding mechanism. The law taxes investment income and adds on another tax for Medicare on upper incomes. Talk about a target. I recall saying at the time this could not work.
I would note in passing that when it comes to health care, we already pay for it, except the pay for comes out of the pockets of those who can ill afford it. Some think that single payer would actually be deflationary.
Yes, back in the early naughts, we saw a list of what the first stage of the Iraq War ($1 billion) could have purchased domestically. The impact of that was zero. If a solid majority of Americans don’t care about our own, they sure as hell aren’t going to care about others except for being future targets of US bombs, etc.). Not a helpful argument to bother making IMO.
So, the average monthly health insurance premium is $473 ($5,676/year). On top of that there are deductibles and co-pays. It’s the cost of health care and not so much the funding mechanisms that have made the problem intractable. No other wealthy country with UHC spends anywhere near as much on a per capita for its seniors as the US does; if they did their systems would be broke. Yet their seniors aren’t unhealthier and don’t die earlier than US seniors. (In many countries they are healthier and live longer.)
We spend around three and a half trillion per year on all health care, around 10k for each of us. That is nearly twice what anyone else pays in the developed world. So single payer funded by the government should cost less, but we will need to start spreading the Medicare paradigm around along with negotiated drugs.
Given that the government already pays over a trillion ( not counting states) some think no new taxes are needed. Deficits by themselves are meaningless unless we are at full capacity, and we are not there. There is your replacement for Obamacare, but no chance with conservative Republicans.
There is much we could do, as Arthur noted. And yet we leave PR in a hell hole.
Forget the funding mechanism for a moment, and address the fact that all health care services cost more in the US. Some just a bit more, some 50% more, and many in triple digit percentages more. The aggregate per capita numbers mask those cost for service differences as well as the fact that on a per capita basis, Americans access fewer health services.
On that last point, why do Americans not see a physician as regularly or as many times per year as those in wealthy UHC countries do? Two primary reasons: 1) the supply (doctors, etc.) for primary care is much too thin in the US (by design) and therefore, as a matter of health policy (government or insurance company driven), it’s not encouraged (we worry more about malingerers excess use of health care) 2) deductibles and co-pays — again by design to reduce use of medical services. For aggregate US health care spending, both of those policies INCREASE costs. More use of emergency rooms and hospitals to deal with a major problem that would have been avoided with an early doctor’s office visit. But the entire system reaps more dollars by chintzing out at the front end.
While I would still prefer a robust public health care system – the best medicine when income/wealth inequality is high — that front end could still be tackled with robust public funding of primary health care facilities. Lots more for Planned Parenthood, community public health care clinics, and community health centers (in areas that are too small for public health clinics). Make it free for patients. Won’t attract Medicaid patients, because they get free care, but the uninsured, Medicare, and low income insured with high co-pays and deductibles will use those clinics.
Perhaps as second best, but Medicare for all single payer would be “free”to all citizens. That has to be the ultimate goal whatever else we adopt in the meantime. That would also permit significant savings.
You’re still not hearing me. Other wealthy countries with UHC incur health care costs, on a per capita basis, for their seniors that are half or less than half what Medicare costs. Cost-wise that means that Medicare is out of control for is only 13% of the population. Is there some magic that will get the costs under control if it were expanded to 100% of the population?
Except for those Medicare beneficiaries that get an employer, VA, or Medicaid subsidy, they pay a monthly premium (a modest cost) and incur co-pays and deductibles when they access care. “Free” doesn’t mean except for service charges — like some mass market con job — it means free at the transaction point.
One other thing I would note. The use of our money for anything we want here in the states is limited only by the resources available in dollars and inflation. And inflation is dependent on the resource constraint, usually labor. Taxes are only needed to stop inflation, not to fund our spending.
So, for example, some have even suggested health care does not require taxes. ( I doubt that, but) And, as a matter of fact, the republicans are assuming that a tax cut will increase growth to three percent and the increased growth will fund the deficiit.
Free college is another of the things we should go after, if only for community college and trade schools. When you think about where the world is going it is incredulous that we do not have this. I understand that New York State is or will be doing this. But this needs to be funded by the federal gov to avoid even larger state taxes.
Again for the federal gov the cost is secondary.
We probably need to have a big and honest discussion about education funding. Public colleges in most states were near free before the various forms of federal funding entered the picture.
Voters are short-sighted and mostly ignorant and law makers of craven and cowardly which has led to paralysis and depreciation at the local, state, and federal level of government.
Let it be noted that those brave, conscientious dissenters Jeff Flake, Bob Corker, and John McCain all voted late on Oct. 24 to overturn a CFPB rule allowing class-action suits against financial institutions, and thereby greatly strengthened those institutions against their own constituents.
To clarify: the CFPB rules overturned would have prevented financial firms from requiring consumers to sign “forced arbitration” agreements and from requiring them to give up their right to initiate class-action suits. These three heroes supported this action despite recent and flagrant abuses by Wells Fargo and others. There is no possible substantive defense for this action by anyone, and no defense for these three at all.
Thanks for that update.
This is EXACTLY what I was going on about, above.
I see neither of the these three greedy grubby CON artists in any positive light. Sure, they are SAYING a very few words that seem “good.”
BFD. WHAT, exactly, are they DOING and how are they VOTING?? Same old, diff’rent day. Nothing has changed.
There’s loads of speculation out there that Flake is positioning himself for a run against Trump in 2020. Yet another Mittens RMoney. Wow. I’m so very excited about that… NOT.
None of these three politicians is offering ME anything of any value.
Talk’s cheap.
The more you see of this, the less you like. There is nothing there. They vote for the same shit today as they did before the blow up. It seems to make no difference at all, it’s like a reality show they are starring in for us rubes.
Egg-zachtly. If it isn’t overtly choreographed, it might as well be.
I hate them all.
I think they’re cooperating with Trump.
This narc thrives on chaos and distraction – these big talkers create a show for the news media to run after and report. Whatever else is going on (and there’s plenty) is robbed of attention.
Of course it isn’t a real mutiny since they vote for his garbage anyway and take no real steps to rid the country of his dominion.