Looking at Nancy’s piece on the Republicans’ plan for preventing a blue wave midterm election, I noted that they’re going to rely on immigration as a wedge issue. Now, there are different elements to immigration, obviously, and some have more political power than others. In general, however, these issues tend to divide the Republican caucus much more than the Democratic caucus.
There may be some Democratic lawmakers who are worried about how the DACA issue plays in their home districts, but they’re certainly not talking about their concerns. Overall, the American public strongly objects to the idea of deporting people who came here as young children and have proven themselves to be promising and productive members of our society. I’m unaware of any Democrats who publicly support funding Trump’s stupid border wall, but there are plenty of Republicans who think it’s a bad idea, a waste of money, and something that the Mexicans’ were supposed to pay for rather than the American taxpayers. The sanctuary city issue may be a more productive area for the Republicans to probe, but it’s also something that so far has been litigated in the courts, and not to the GOP’s advantage. It’s probably of limited value as a campaign issue, especially because the economy is humming and we’re closing in on full employment.
The other wedge issue mentioned in Nancy’s article is only tangentially related to immigration. The GOP wants to argue for stronger work requirements for welfare recipients. To get any political juice out of that argument the Republicans would have to set things up so that the Democrats were blocking them from enacting legislative changes to the law. For example, if they could get a government shutdown framed around welfare instead of DACA, they might actually win that battle at the voting booth. Maybe.
As things stand, though, the Republicans are facing a government shutdown framed around DACA and shithole countries, and that looks catastrophic to me when you consider that the Republicans control both chambers of Congress and they’re divided over DACA and immigration policy. They’ll argue that the Democrats are soft on defense and obstinate on immigration, but it will be their inability to settle on compromise solutions on those issues that causes the Democrats to withhold their votes.
The GOP has one idea for splitting Democrats in the next round of voting, and that is to use CHIP, the children’s health program, as a bargaining chip.
One option Republicans are strongly considering to win over Democrats, according to two aides familiar with the GOP’s planning, is attaching a long-term renewal of the Children’s Health Insurance Program to the stopgap. Republicans believe that many Democrats — especially senators seeking reelection this year — will have a tough time voting against the program, which they have called a top priority.
This is a sensible strategy but it will probably work better on the campaign trail than in the whip count for the votes that are coming up on a short-term continuing resolution to keep the government operating. If they want to trade long-term CHIP funding for a clean C.R., that’s something the Democrats might consider, but the Republicans will lose too many of their own votes with that move. If you’re going to hold children’s health hostage, you probably should get more than a month more of Obama-level government spending as your ransom. Still, in theory the CHIP issue could divide Democrats which is something the Republican leaders in Congress are having a lot of troubling accomplishing at the moment.
The main opposition to a clean C.R. to avoid a government shutdown is coming from defense hawks on the right and DACA supporters on the left. In both cases, the Democrats are in the stronger position. They’ll vote for more defense spending providing only that there are corresponding increases in domestic spending. The Republican defense hawks may not like that deal, but they’ll take it. On DACA, a large portion of the Republican caucus wants a deal on DACA and they’ll support something along the lines of the deal that Sens. Graham and Durbin brought to the White House last week. So, this faction will not be happy defending a government shutdown over an issue where they’re willing to make concessions.
What’s remarkable in all of this, to me, is that you’d think the immigration issue would scare and divide the Democrats after they saw how much power it had in the presidential election. But it’s really not scaring or dividing them at all. They support DACA, oppose the border wall, oppose the Muslim ban, oppose most of Trump’s proposed reforms on sanctuary cities, chain migration, etc., and they’re not at all concerned about a government shutdown that will highlight these issues.
These issues do have real power, though, so I wouldn’t recommend anyone get complacent about how this will play out politically. It’s just that I don’t think the Republicans have set this up in a way in which they can press their advantages. The government shutdown is almost definitely going to do far more damage to their candidates than it does to the Democrats.
It’s like the party has some semblance of sound moral principles.
I don’t know how a gov’t shutdown will play out in blame “R vs D” terms. I tend to think the Rs will get it in the neck, simply because they are in charge and have been in charge for more than a little while.
On immigration, especially DACA they will lose. Period. ONLY Trump’s base will back them on this, and it has been shown repeatedly that Trump’s base is order of magnitude 33% of voting adults. This is a ceiling, not a base.
Yeah. Bottom line with government shutdown is “Trump’s in charge and he’s a national embarrassment. Everything that happens is his fault.”
I’d bet that the vast majority of Americans aren’t going to get more detailed than that.
Oh for sure the GOP will get it in the nuts (masculine metaphor used deliberately) with a shutdown. As they should. They own the whole government. Anybody who isn’t a Fox News mouth-breather will hold them responsible. And, fortunately, the Dems are acting like they know it too.
I hope you’re right.
But I’ll be surprised to see/hear the (Worse-Than-Useless) Corporate Media refrain from “Dems-shut-down-government” framing if shutdown happens because no Dems would vote for whatever piece o’ shit bill GOP tries to pass.
Happy to be wrong about that.
I would count on President Babyfingers to shoot off his mouth and tweet up a storm during any shutdown.
Charlie Cook opinion:
https://twitter.com/CharlieCookDC/status/953255277578645504
from the link …
Beyond a specific interest group and their paid for “hawks” in congress, is there really a constituency demanding a massive defense spending increase beyond the same 33% base that’s also demanding all the Know-Your-Place-Brown-People!…er…I mean anti-immigration policy?
Beyond that base, it seems American voters aren’t interested in giving the military a pay rise, much less engaging in further military adventures abroad.
I may be misremembering, but wasn’t part of Trump’s GOP Primary campaign promising to return to Splendid Isolationism?
They lie like rugs.
Which ones?
Conservative politicians laying out policy on the campaign trail or conservative voters when asked/polled about what their political/social views are?
Cause I’ve found both to be equally the case.
Republicans
O/T but
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/16/us/politics/steve-bannon-mueller-russia-subpoena.html
yeah. Saw that. The question of piece I read was whether meullar wanted to put him in front of a grand jury, or just under oath to investigators.
Does it make any real difference?
link
That’s kind of shocking. I’m fairly certain that you get immunity on anything you testify to a Grand Jury about unless you’re the subject of the Grand Jury or you lie to the Grand Jury.
If Bannon is testifying, or testilying, Mueller either has nothing on Bannon or made a deal where Bannon walks.
Normally people don’t testify to a grand jury without immunity and they wait to be indicted because perjury is a real risk.
So Bannon’s either 1) reached a deal with Mueller, 2) he’s prepared to be scrupulously honest, or 3) he’s only going to tell lies he thinks he can get away with.
Given that he’s told multiple reporters he thinks that Trump is likely to be impeached or resign for colluding with Russia, I doubt it’s option 3.
To quote Garth: “I’m not going to jail for you, or ANYBODY!”
MSNBC just said a grand jury.
Renato Mariotti explains why grand jury ….
https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/953316256819613698
So,
The wedge issues the republicans have chosen are immigration `reform’ (meaning deporting more brown people, and making it more difficult for brown/black people to get here), and welfare `reform’ (meaning making it more difficult for brown/black people to survive).
One assumes they have chosen these two because of their own polling, combined with constituent feedback. And it now appears Trump’s shithole comment was targeted towards these voters.
What happened to the economic anxiety we kept hearing about? Nothing about jobs for the working class? It appears the republicans are the only ones that truly know, really know, their base.
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Immigration = “economic anxiety.” (Didn’t you know?)
Erik Loomis
I love Loomis but this is ridiculous. The point of “economic anxiety” jokes is that “economic anxiety” doesn’t encourage people to vote for right wing racist demagogues. That’s a whole different motivation.
The link to Washington Post is great, in that it neatly illustrates the concerns of the owner class with its redefinition of full employment as nairu compatible maximum employment. So for Washington Post, the optimum employment is as high as possible as long as there is enough unemployed to keep wages down.
However, the voters may have other concerns, and may view the still low employment rate and lack of wage increases as something bad. So I wouldn’t base any political analysis on voters agreeing with the Washington Post about the state of the economy. If the Democrats bases their analysis on the economy already being great, they will leave walk-over in the fight for voters who are struggling, leaving the field to “they are taking your jobs!” Republicans.
Here’s a link for the US employment rate: https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/employment-rate
Tl;dr; version: employment was 63% in 2008, dipped down to just above 58% in 2009, and has gradually increased to 60%.
My own impression has been it is very politically disadvantageous, if not suicidal, for either party (and both have done it) to point to the three major BS economic indicators (Stock Market/Employment Rate, and/or GDP) and tell middle class and below voters “Let at these! Everything is going great!”
But then again, the average Trumpshirt is both wealthier and more educated than MSM wants us to believe. In fact most are the upper-middle class exburbanites/suburbanites that economically did gangbusters under Obama.
You think anyone will remember this months down the line?
Adding to the GOP’s lack of preparedness is DT stomping all over any attempts they make to push a coherent message. Every time they open their mouths, DT tweets something stupid and wins the news cycle.
. . . whether in the east as usual, or the west, as physically impossible.