Do you want to see a tweet that hasn’t aged well? How about this one from the president that is less than two months old? Roger Stone has now been indicted for, essentially, making up lies and stories about President Trump in an effort to shield him from the truth. And when Trump made that tweet, he knew full well that Stone had perjured himself before the House and Senate intelligence committees, and he knew he was not cooperating with the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election. I suppose it does take “guts” to expose yourself to that kind of legal liability.
“I will never testify against Trump.” This statement was recently made by Roger Stone, essentially stating that he will not be forced by a rogue and out of control prosecutor to make up lies and stories about “President Trump.” Nice to know that some people still have “guts!”
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 3, 2018
According to Lawfare, Trump’s December 3, 2018 tweet on Stone and an earlier one from August 22, 2018 in which he prematurely praised Paul Manafort as “such a brave man” for refusing to cooperate with the Office of Special Counsel both could qualify as violations of federal statute 18 U.S.C. § 1512(b) which criminalizes witness tampering. As it turned out, Manafort was convicted and decided to work with Robert Mueller. He’s now charged with breaching that agreement and continuing to lie. Roger Stone will have to consider which parts of that example, if any, that he wants to emulate.
I’ll write more fulsomely later about the content and implications of the indictments against Roger Stone, but for now we can close the book on one thing. The Trump campaign conspired, colluded, and coordinated with WikiLeaks to disseminate stolen, private communications of U.S. citizens and the Democratic Party in order to seek an advantage in a political campaign. We no longer need to have any debate about that question.
It’s clear from the indictment that people at the highest levels of the campaign were aware that Stone had contacts with Julian Assange and could provide information about the timing and to a certain degree the content of the leaks before they actually occurred. No one has come forth publicly and admitted this to Congress or the American people.
The case isn’t quite closed yet, but it’s getting near to that point. What remains is for Mueller to demonstrate to what degree that major players, including the president, understood at the time that the Russians were responsible for giving the material to WikiLeaks. I’ll have much more to say about that soon.
Yes, the evidence is becoming undeniable, overwhelming and crystal clear to an objective observer. Which is why articles of impeachment are essential, whatever the chances of conviction by a senate solidly controlled by the criminal and corrupt National Trumpalist party.
It is necessary to demonstrate to that our archaic and byzantine constitutional system cannot function as long as a committed anti-majoritarian party exists.
Even for those of an authoritarian mindset (i.e. “conservatives”), at least Benito Mussolini got the trains to run on time. But our two-bit, conman imitation causes the planes to be grounded!
Looks like it’s Roger Stone’s time in the barrel.
…he said with a schadenfreude-eating grin….
Man sagt auf Deutsch, “Grinsen wie ein Honigkuchenpferd”, “Grinning like a gingerbread horse”.
I suppose it’s rude to be pedantic, but fulsome does not mean what you think it means.
Given how frequently the word is used as Booman has, I wonder whether it’s shifting back to its original meaning? And that the current sense of overblown and ingratiating may be falling by the wayside?
One could launch another battle in the endless war between prescriptivism and descriptivism on this!
Glenn Greenwald is already spinning like a top.
To wit…
Jeez, hook him up to a generator and you could power half of D.C.
The question now is whether Stone will “Flip.” You know Orange Vito hates a “Flipper.” Unfortunately, Luca Brasi isn’t answering his phone messages lately, so Vito can’t make Stone an offer he can’t refuse. Instead he has to put it out on Twitter.
Stone has said that he won’t flip. But, at this point, I think we’re well past the time when Trump could pardon his adviser and get away with it. It’s just too brazen for the GOP Senators to swallow, no matter how Fox News spins it. Thus, Stone has to consider carefully how many years he would like to spend in Federal prison on various charges. As Manafort proved, attempting to fight this in court isn’t likely to go very well.
The most serious implication is that they waited until NOW to indict Stone. This is clearly the cap-stone in the ferreting out of the Trump criminal conspiracy so they undoubtedly have been building up their evidence to the moon before they moved against him.
Now, the Trumpites are down to arguing that the Russians didn’t really swing the election, which is irrelevant to the criminality of the thing.
Just moving along methodically, laying predicates.
Next up, who directed Stone, who was involved in directing Stone, who knew of all this?
. . . (Asking for a friend.)
In sufficiently concentrated doses, most certainly! But you can dilute it in a 50/50 mixture with wingnut tears, rendering it merely a potent intoxicant.
. . . all weekend anyway then. Unless more good news comes along to extend the binge!
Thank you Booman, this post has just smashed my personal best for Schadenfreude. I sure hope that son of a bitch gets everything he so richly deserves.
Stone has been saying since around November 12 that he expects to be indicted. From the fact that Mueller has taken his sweet time with it, you’ve got to believe he’s loaded for bear.
Cohen. Manafort. Stone.
Any closer, and you’re indicting relatives.
We’re going to find out just how entrenched in the public consciousness the “Unless you have video of Putin and Trump discussing how to change vote totals in exurban Milwaukee, there’s no there there” narrative is.
How many different firewalls can you have?
If you’ve been listening to outlets like 538, who are not there to drive reporting forward but rather to accurately capture the impact, they are still refusing to go beyond the “confirmed” information from Mueller and include any additional corroborated reporting to tied together these points.
It is incredibly frustrating to keep hearing “no confirmation of collusion with Russia” and yet each of these indictments and guilty pleas refers to higher ups (or multiple levels higher – “all the way to the top”) within the Trump campaign directing their lies around the campaign and Russia aid.
WHAT THE F*** GUYS! Can we stop being so cute and go beyond the “2+2” and begin to address the fact that that means it “=4”??!
Also, side note that Trump completely go rolled over by Pelosi and the fact that he has zero leverage. Booman, if you can write an entry at some point that speculates what comes after/during the 2-3 week CR coverage I would be really interested. Trump has bought time, but time that does not help him and if anything will just add more anger although a little less pain to what he is doing.
I am no BooMan, but my sense is that this makes his position weaker in 3 weeks. Some of his hard core supporters will be disgusted, like Ann Coulter.
DJT’s MO has always been never admit a mistake. Yesterday, or was it the night before (?), Rachel Maddow highlighted that when Deutsche Bank sued Trump for recovering $40M of his debt, he counter sued for $3B. That was the classic Roy Cohn move.
Now in 2 swift days, he has folded on SOTU and the shutdown. Some of his MAGA hardliners will peel away, based on this and other factors. Surely the dumber ones will stay, but his floor of support just got lowered.
The interesting question is whether the support for Republican senators (and house critters) will also evaporate slowly. Cruz got a shellacking yesterday, but he is safe for 6 years! We need the senate to flip in 2020!
. . . I’m failing to keep up. But then who can?)
Mild mannered Colorado senator Michael Bennett on Cruz’s crocodile tears:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLNd2KbPXHk
. . . to keep up these days.
That speech by Senator Bennet was remarkable. Way, way out of character for him, and very, very welcome.