The late-October polling out of the Bluegrass State indicated that Democratic Attorney General Jack Conway is a modest favorite to win the Kentucky gubernatorial election today over Tea Party-favorite Matt Bevin. Maybe that’s not that much of a surprise, but new polling out of Louisiana should definitely be causing some alarm bells to go off at Wingnut Headquarters.
Democrat John Bel Edwards has a 20% lead over Senator David Vitter in the Louisiana Gubernatorial runoff, according to a survey released today by WVLA and JMC Analytics.
The brand new, statewide poll results confirm something that hasn’t happened in 7 years: A Democratic Governor could take office in Louisiana.
Today, WVLA released a survey of 600 likely voters, conducted by JMC analytics. When asked who they’d vote for if the election were held today, 52% of people chose State Representative John Bel Edwards. 32% chose Senator David Vitter, and 16% were undecided.
These numbers are surprising because they show that John Bel Edwards, a Democrat, will pick up more votes from former Republican candidates Scott Angelle and Jay Dardenne than David Vitter, a fellow Republican.
The WVLA poll also asked undecided voters if they had a preference between the two candidates. 54% of them leaned toward John Bel Edwards at this point, while 35% leaned toward David Vitter.
I doubt progressive Democrats will be too excited about the politics of John Bel Edwards, but that’s not really my point here. If he ends David Vitter’s career in a 20-plus percentage point blowout, that’s a pretty damning indictment of Bobby Jindal’s career and of the Republican Party in Louisiana.
Louisiana and Kentucky are among the states that voted twice for Bill Clinton before shifting to George W. Bush in 2000. They’ve been (very) reliably red states ever since. After New Orleans lost much of its black population in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in 2005, the Bayou State became uncompetitive for Democrats. Meanwhile, in Kentucky, President Obama has proven to be immensely unpopular for some reason (I think you know why) even as Democratic Governor Steve Beshear successfully implemented and openly cheer led the Kynect (Obamacare) health care system. It became a source of much mirth that Kentucky voters consistently said that they loved Kynect and hated Obamacare, and the program has been a hot topic in the governors campaign. It appears that the Democrats are getting the better of the argument:
The outgoing Democratic governor of Kentucky, Steve Beshear, used an executive order to expand Medicaid and create a state-run exchange under Obamacare. Half a million people, around a quarter of the state’s population, got coverage as a result.
Democrats have aggressively highlighted this in commercials and on the stump leading up to today’s off-year gubernatorial election, suggesting that the Republicans would “callously” eliminate the exchange if they won. It’s a stark contrast to the defensive posture that Democrats largely took on the issue in the midterm elections of 2010 and 2014.
Kentucky has seen the largest drop in its uninsured rate of any state in the country. It’s currently 9 percent, down from 20.4 percent before Obamacare, according to the Louisville NPR affiliate. Open enrollment for next year began over the weekend, and the Kaiser Family Foundation says there are 285,000 uninsured Kentuckians who could still enroll using the so-called Kynect program.
GOP gubernatorial nominee Matt Bevin has backtracked on repeal since he won a four-way primary in May. In the spring, he said he would “absolutely” reverse Beshear’s executive order “immediately.” In the final debate of the race, he suggested he would narrow eligibility to below 138 percent of the poverty line and try to get participants to have some “skin in the game,” in essence forcing people to pay some kind of deductible.
Now, all if this might seem of completely local interest and unlikely to mean much for the 2016 elections, but Gov. Steve Beshear strongly disagrees:
Polling shows the Medicaid expansion playing to Democrats’ advantage: The final Bluegrass Poll put Democratic Attorney General Jack Conway up 5 points. The Lexington Herald-Leader’s Sam Youngman reported that Bevin’s opposition to the expansion “appears to be hurting him”: 54 percent said they want the state’s next governor to maintain the expansion; 24 percent say they would like to see it repealed; 22 percent were not sure. One-third of Republicans support maintaining the expansion.
For years, Gov. Beshear has publicly urged national Democrats to run on the health care law, regardless of whether they’re from a red or a blue state. “You can tell there’s a pent-up demand and a craving for access to health care,” he said in an interview here. “People came out of the woodwork in droves wanting to find about this. … This is a winner for our people, and because it’s a winner for our people, it’s going to be a winner politically.” Beshear has been publicly attacking Bevin for saying he’d roll back his signature initiative. “He understands that this is now a popular issue for Kentuckians and he’s trying to somehow find a way out of it.”
Expressing confidence that Conway will win today, Beshear told me: “In 2016, I predict the Democratic nominee will make this a major issue and will pound the Republicans into the dust with it.”
So, then the question becomes less about the idiosyncrasies of Kentucky or Louisiana politics and more about whether the rejection of Republicans in very red states is related to broadly applicable policy considerations. It looks like Kentuckians are weighing the health care law heavily in their decision making, and that it’s benefiting the supporters of Obamacare.
To see how that sentiment might be transferable, check out this map:
We think we know which states will vote which ways, but this is not a normal election cycle:
…while there’s still plenty of time for an establishment GOP candidate to beat Carson or Trump, Democratic pollster Peter Hart wonders if the 2016 Republican race is shaping up to resemble 1964, when Barry Goldwater won the GOP nomination.
“What if the cake is baked?” Hart asks. “This is not a status-quo electorate.”
The Republicans will try to shrug off the election results in Kentucky today and in Louisiana later in the month, but if things go the way they seem to be going, they may be in a lot more trouble than they want to admit.
I have read a book on the ’64 campaign in the last year. What struck me was just what a nut Goldwater was. He has been rehabilitated somewhat recently, but he was every bit the nutbag Ben Carson is.
I am still firmly in denial that either Carson or Trump can win the nomination.
But with each passing day…
>> I am still firmly in denial that either Carson or Trump can win the nomination.
until they’ve actually had the convention and all the shit has flown, I will not underestimate the ability of the establishment to get the candidate they want, who will certainly not be either of those.
Maybe Vitter is just too disgusting even for Louisiana.
The American public doesn’t understand public finance (they don’t even understand their personal finance). They don’t understand international diplomacy. But they DO understand a (married yet!) man going to a prostitute to be diapered. THAT fits their Maury Povich view of the world.
Except Vitter got re-elected by a pretty wide margin since that revelation. A lot has happened since in Louisiana. Meaning Jindal has driven the state into the ground.
When will Alabama wake up to expanded Medicaid? They seem even more hardheaded than Arkansans or Kentuckians.
When the DNC wakes up and fixes Alabama’s Democratic Party?
or maybe Democrats in AL need to be more involved in their local party
It’s not the DNC’s responsibility to run local parties
Back in 2004 my daughter couldn’t find four other Democrats to form a meet up. It’s a little better now, but her and her husband are the only white Democrats. She’s a Northern transplant. He’s from an old Alabama family, but I think he’s only a Democrat because she is.
I will say he’s not one of those Stars and Bars waving gun-toting idiots, but she wouldn’t have married one of those anyway.
Addendum: I think his family used to be Democrats under Roosevelt. TarHeelDem probably can explain what happened in the deep South since then.
Judging from my trip down there this Spring, from Hobart Indiana South, it’s all about Guns and Abortion.
It was shocking to see full-sized anti-abortion billboards so close to Chicago. Even more so last month to see a smaller billboard in Lombard IL (look it up on google maps, along with Hobart IN). But that was somebody with money. Every pickup truck from Hobart South seemed to have a pro-gun sticker (slight exaggeration, but only slight). Dems should stand firm on abortion as a human rights issue, but talking about confiscating guns anytime someone is shot is just driving people into the waiting arms of the Republicans.
Self-interest has, for them, been successfully defined in non-economic terms.
You are right. For me as well as I just posted in another thread.
Let’s talk later on tonight, BooMan. After the results.
That they have the man in Kentucky -ON TAPE- talking about how he would repeal it, and that it’s still right there in his position papers…
WELL…
talk to me later on…this should not even be close…
as for Louisiana..we’ll see
“That they have the man in Kentucky -ON TAPE- talking about how he would repeal it, and that it’s still right there in his position papers…” And he seems to be winning by 10%. (Huge Sigh) I hope he DOES take their health care away.
Apparently, John Bel is not related to Edwin Edwards ( he of the “vote for the crook, its important” fame).
My favourite Edwin Edwards story is when he was asked about taking a $50K bribe. His response:
“Now wait a minute. When I took that money it was legal. The legislature made it illegal in the next session. And another thing, it was only $35K. If he spent $50K, someone scammed me for $15K before it got to me.” I have this story from an absolutely unimpeachable source who heard it in person.
That is a great story– both hilarious and sad at the same time.
Given the history of Democratic voters not bothering to get off their lazy asses and vote in non-presidential years I’d have to say the GOP has the edge.
It would be gratifying if tonight’s results proved you wrong.
It didn’t
Back in 1993, the Republicans were warned that if Bill Clinton got his health care passed, and the people got a taste of a national health care system, the Republicans would find it damned hard to win elections, even in Red states.
This looks like Kentuckians are beginning to wake up to a good thing – and that it wasn’t the Repugs who got it for them. And to simply pay attention to who is on their side.
It is GOOD and NECESSARY that poor and middle class people in Red states notice what is in their best interests.
NOT ONCE, since Newt Gingrich hooked the fundamentalists with social issues, has the Republican party passed any laws favoring the little people. The little people have been voting against their own best interests for over 20 years now.
It is about time they woke up to who is on their side.
Totally agree with you, but it’s looking like the Democrat is losing big in Kentucky, judging from the results coming in at Dkos.
They have voted against their economic best interest for twenty years now.
They’re still voting their self interest — just defining it in non-economic terms.
Church. Tribe. Race. All real and valid interests.
I hope you are right, Booman. I will be pleasantly surprised if you are. I hold out little hope for my “neighbors” across the river.