Music and art in general are things that really only people can create – they are abstract forms of expression, useless really. In and of themselves they are not destructive – unless we want to quibble about oil paint poisoning the painter, too much loud music damaging the ears, dance affecting the joints or writing causing blindness. Words and visual arts can incite hate (though I would argue once it is intended by the artist to affect the outcome of something other than thought, it is no longer art – art is about reflection and about communication – it can be beautiful and it can be ugly. I would argue that we need to separate the art from the artist as well – for instance with Wagner, since his art was not intended to incite, nor did it).
Music and poetry are special – they are not tangible and cannot be locked away from the world in private collections. Music is even more unique, more abstract – it cannot be understood visually or verbally, but it plays into our emotion, our memories and it can be seen in our minds. We can understand it. We can understand 3 or 4 or 5 different instruments playing entirely different, even opposing or contradicting pieces, yet communicating to create a complete piece of music in harmony, just as we can understand the written word with different lines for each character that come together and form a play.
Music is a very personal thing, and the one thing I can truly enjoy in these times. It has the ability to carry me out of this plane and into another. I primarily listen to classical and baroque – the conversations between the instruments have become more and more important to me, some folk here and there – and rarely Rock. In my youth I listened to much more of it, and I remember a lot of it fondly – Jethro Tull, The Doors, oodles of Eurotrash (Europeans back me up – please! And for the record no – not Boney M or Bucks Fizz).
My husband just introduced my daughter to Hendrix – which has become her number one request when we drive somewhere. (I can’t stand Hendrix – sorry). Though I will concede there is art in contradiction without coming together to make sense – to me chaos.
Classical music can be a strange thing, since the composer and the piece are at the mercy of the conductor and to a lesser extent the orchestra (approx 85 people), or in chamber music with the musicians. I’ve heard performances, with pretty well known conductors that have been mind-bogglingly painful to listen to. I can’t stand von Karajan, probably considered the greatest conductor in the last half of the 20th century. He was technically brilliant – unequaled, no argument, but he lacked passion and feeling – he was entirely cold. Though I would consider Mozart the most brilliant composer ever, I listen to much more Schubert and Bach – primarily because the performances I have are at the very least above average, if not exemplary.
One of the most flawless recordings I have ever heard is a live/analog recording of Schubert’s Unfinished: Furtwängler with the Berlin, 1953. I also have a soft spot for Jacqueline du Pré and Glenn Gould and their standards of perfection. I have an immense aversion to things like: 20 greatest hits of the classical world performed by an orchestral equivalent of Musac.
I should also mention the Zulu chanting, as seen in the film Zulu (note: not on CD version) was one of the most intense performances that I’ve ever heard. Hope they never make a remake – I can just imagine a digital army chanting.
What do you guys like, or is music even important to you? Any recommendations – or favorite pieces?
Do ballet and physics mix – thoughts?
The work is performed to six pieces by Franz Lehar, the best known of which is Gold and Silver Waltz. The music was composed around 1905, when Einstein published three seminal papers.
Ray Rivers, a physics professor, advised Baldwin on technical aspects of the theories. In an interview with the weekly magazine New Scientist, Rivers said, “Of all the art forms that one can use to express the notion of here, now, and what happens then, dance is probably the best. In some sense, there are ways you can represent equations by movement because they often describe movement. The equations and ideas in Einstein’s papers are very dynamical. Dance is better suited to the 1905 papers than any of the other visual arts.” link
Or is music something that cannot be described in words? I’m off for a few hours, but I’d love some input.
Thanks for a stimulating piece.
Much of my own taste is summed up by simply saying ECM.
I like their motto: “Only silence is more beautiful.” Increasingly I listen to music only sparingly.
A few potential desert island records, irrespective of genre:
I agree on von Karajan; but have you heard his late Bruckner recordings? He does achieve a transcendent quality there.
I have von Karajan conducting Bruckners 7th. It’s not bad. I also like his version of Parcifal – I was being general. Also – I have to give him credit for popularizing and re-energizing the medium.
I have the Gould/Goldberg (Gouldberg) variations CD that you linked to – it’s exellent, and I’m curious about the Anouar Brahem.
Right now I’m trying to wade through Rachmaninov – looking for good recordings – since I’m of two minds with him.
Everything by Brahem is great – he is one of my favorite musicians and has made the oud one of my favorite instruments. A disc everybody seems to like is Thimar, with John Surman and Dave Holland, so that may be a good place to begin. But the one I listed is where he comes closest to ‘classical’ European music.
Rachmaninov: Do you know Richter’s classic rendering of the 2nd Piano Concerto? The orchestra is below par, but the soloist is outstanding. As to the 3rd (the notorious ‘Rach 3’) I can recommend my illustrious countryman, Leif Ove Andsnes.
The Richter is in fact what I have that I really enjoy – preludes, it’s a compilation CD of many composers. I recently bought a CD: Rachmaninov plays Rachmaninov – interesting his expression of his own music however they are ampico piano transfers and the recordings are a real mess.
The following were all gifts: I have Rubinstein performing #2 – it’s terrible. I also have 2 (Kissin and Volodos) performing #3 – soso both of them, and I was a bit disappointed by Kissin , since I expected more of him.
You know I’ve never heard anything by Andsnes, but I know of his reputation – thank you for the tip.
he seemed almost bloodless. Also on the music being at the mercy of the performer. Sometimes I think people don’t like classical music because they haven’t heard it done right.
I’ve got a recording of Beethoven’s 4th and 6th symphonies conducted by Bruno Walter when he was 80 years old that’s absolutely electrifying.
Agree on Glenn Gould also. As I believe George Szell said “that nut is (was) a genius”. His recording of the Bach Concerto for Keyboard and Orchestra No. 1 with Bernstein conducting is rhythmically and musically breathtaking.
What drives me crazy is when I hear people call classical music “elevator music”.
Thanks for an interesting break from the insanities and inanities of the political world.
Glenn Gould was a genius among geniuses.
I just got back from a drive (I love this do to the excellent sound quality) with Schuberts Trio 2 in E flat / Beaux Arts Trio. Excellent piece – love the allegro moderato – the perfect climax. (Schubert describes Vienna perfectly – having grown up there I can understand his neurosis well).
I have some Bruno Walter doing Mahler on LP. He was great. I would also highly recommend Karl Böhm with the Vienna for Mozart. His recordings with the Berlin (strings are weak) are so so in comparison.
A big problem with classical music is that so much of it just goes out of print so fast and is replaced by other recordings. That is good in the sense that you can find other versions and interpretations – that it really is a living and timeless medium when other things are forgotten, but bad in that some of the really good stuff becomes unavailable.
I think I would be mortified if I heard such a comparison to elevator music. I think that people also don’t have the time to listen to it. It takes concentration to be able to fully appreciate the sounds.
Seen the movie 32 Short Films about Glenn Gould? Warmly recommended.
and it’s excellent. The one that comes to mind immediately is Gould sitting the maid down to listen to Beethoven’s Sonata #13.
Interesting that you cite the Goldberg Variations from 1981 rather than the 1955 version. I think it’s a measure of Gould’s inspiration that both versions work although they are very different.
Exactly. That’s the scene I remember best as well.
The 1955 recording is spectacular in its own way, but I know it less well since I don’t own a copy. And the 1981 has that extra je ne sais quoi, musically speaking.
Ironically, Gould himself thought the Goldberg a rather flawed and incoherent piece – or professed to do so.
Ironically, Gould himself thought the Goldberg a rather flawed and incoherent piece – or professed to do so.
That he felt this way was in many ways a mark of his greatness – not that he was modest – but that he was always seeking to improve.
Yeah, but he was talking about Bach’s piece.
Right you are – dyslexia kicking in after an afternoon of physical self-abuse.
Really? – I suppose he might have had ideas about the piece (much like that famous scene in Amadeus where Mozart is improving upon Salieri’s work) – and couldn’t do anything about it.
Count me in regarding von Karajan. Technically brillant but he also seemed, to me, no matter who the composer was to morph everything into Beethoven. That may partially be due to the fact he was conducting the Berlin Philharmonic. I (tried to) listen to him conducting Bach – it was appalling. Bach needs to be played lightly not trampled by 175 elephants all trying to dance.
I haven’t sat down and listened to his Bruckner recordings, although I’ve certainly heard them over the radio, but I’m not a great fan of Bruckner so it isn’t something I would seek out.
Just to lower the tone completely I listen to way too much Japanese hard core/punk/rock these days..I reckon as I have been first violins (note the s) in serious youth orchestras and bass in many dodgy bands, that classical music is about as dodgy as some of my gigs, a good rock band would blow away Mahler or Beethoven (Mozart would be the groupie) and Blankey Jet City should never have disbanded. There…is that the first muso rant on this blog?? hee winner!!
Thanks for showing up here. I’ve not had much opportunity to listen to Japanese hard core/punk/rock (none, really – though I’ve seen snippets on TV). You’re in China, from what I gather from Athenians diary – what’s popular there?
I like a smattering I’d guess you’d say of all music except maybe woman opera singers.
I have a great fondness though for songs and music of the old musicals. Frank Sinatra, Billie Holiday and Lena Horne.(and Diana Ross was robbed of an Oscar for her portrayal of Billie Holiday)
And anyone who thinks ballet is for sissies ought to watch White Knights with Barrishnikov(even though I can’t spell his name right) and Gregory Hines and watch the scene where Barishnikov shows how incredibly strong you have to be the even think about doing ballet…to say nothing of the great dance sequence they do together showing how you can do ballet and tap to the same music.
It’s been a while since I watched a ballet. My parents used to take me a lot when I was a kid, since it’s easier for a child to sit through music when there is something to watch besides the orchestra. I saw the Nutcracker with Nureyev dancing when I was about 14. It was quite something, though I find myself much more interested in watching the orchestra now.