U.S. troops are being killed in greater number for this reason:
Iran is supplying technology and arms to Insurgents who have come to terms with the Iraqi Jaafari/Chalabi government to kill American troops.
This news item on P.5 of the August 6, 2005 New York Times:
“Some Bombs used in Iraq are Made in Iran, U.S. says”
The article quotes Kenneth Katzman a so-called “Persian Gulf expert” who says:
” Iran’s protégés are in control in Iraq right now, yet these weapons are going to the people fighting Iran’s protégé’s. That doesn’t make sense to me “.
Well, it makes sense to me and I’m no expert. I seem to have been able to predict quite accurately what has happened in Iraq so far from simple observation.
http://bushplanet.blogspot.com/
What Katzman is saying is that Iran is giving weapons to the insurgency to fight and kill Americans and Iraqi troops. How can this be if they are allied with the Iraqi government of Jaafari-Talabani-Chalabi?
….(This isn’t U.S. government spin by the way to prepare the U.S. public for war with Iran. Iran really is supplying weapons to Iraqi insurgents)….
It’s very simple: The Iraqi government is against U.S. presence in Iraq. It is even against the American trained Iraqi trained troops, precisely because they are American trained and useless with no real, dependable, affiliation to either the U.S. or the Iraq government. Keep in mind they are not trained by the Iraqi government, they are trained by Americans and essentially under American, not Iraqi supervision. They are under AMERICAN COMMAND. Iraq has signed an agreement for Iran to train its troops. The Iraqi government realizes it cannot function and it cannot sustain itself without protection. It seeks that protection from Iran, not the United States. The United States in actuality is opposed to the current government. This government of Chalabi, Jaafari and Talabani is not what they envisioned. This is an Iranian allied government.
The Iraqi government has been negotiating with some elements of the Insurgents- that is a known open fact. What they have agreed to in their negotiations is to get American troops out of Iraq by killing as many as possible. That means the Iraqi government along with Iran have joined with elements of the insurgency against the U.S. The insurgency is caused in large part by U.S. presence. Eliminate U.S. presence and the insurgency becomes more manageable. That is why Iran is supplying weapons to the Insurgents. Iran is already under attack according to Scott Ritter and others by the U.S. And the attacks have been going on for some time. There is a developing undeclared war between the U.S. on one side and Iran and the Iraqi government on the other side.
First, this in 2004 from Newsday:
http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/000694.html
The Defense Intelligence Agency has concluded that a U.S.-funded arm of Ahmed Chalabi’s Iraqi National Congress has been used for years by Iranian intelligence to pass disinformation to the United States and to collect highly sensitive American secrets, according to intelligence sources.
“Iranian intelligence has been manipulating the United States through Chalabi by furnishing through his Information Collection Program information to provoke the United States into getting rid of Saddam Hussein,” said an intelligence source Friday who was briefed on the Defense Intelligence Agency’s conclusions, which were based on a review of thousands of internal documents.
Chalabi, primarily an opportunist, has been working with Iran all along. The new plan is for Iran to supply arms to those insurgents who the Jaafari government has come to terms with to blow up Americans to the point that they leave Iraq. A portion of the insurgents will then make peace with the Shiite government based on whatever deals they have arranged and the Iranian forces and Iraqi militias will fight against the remaining insurgents.
It appears to me that the Americans troops dying at such an explosive rate recently, are victims of Iranian bombs and technology.
The Jaafari government and Chalabi (who is oil minister and deputy prime minister or 2nd in command) have allied completely with Iran against the U.S. They have concluded three things.
1). Although the U.S. has promised to leave if asked, the U.S. is has no plans to leave Iraq entirely. The U.S. is building permanent bases all around Iraq. The actual and inevitable plan of the U.S. is to make a partial withdrawal but maintain military bases on a permanent basis.
2). Continued American presence will prevent any possible resolution of the conflict between Sunnis and Shia. It will exacerbate the conflict. Withdrawal of American troops will reduce the conflict. The Iraqi government feels it can deal with the Insurgency through negotiation and through withdrawal of American Troops while using militias such as the Badr group (20,000 Iranian well trained troops) and even the Kurdish Peshmerga (100,000 well trained troops) to fight the remaining insurgents who refuse to come to terms. (Both the Badr group and the Peshmerga are prohibited from fighting the insurgents by the U.S).
3). The only way to get the U.S. to leave is to kill American troops in greater ever increasing and more dramatic numbers in an appeal to the American public to pressure the administration for withdrawal. This is their “Vietnam” Strategy
That is to say that the Jaafari government is actually fighting the U.S. with the insurgents and with Iran. This is being done somewhat clandestinely. I believe the U.S. government knows that Jaafari and Chalabi are plotting against it. But the administration cannot say so as it would expose the horrific conundrum they have created for themselves. It would be a horrible embarrassment. And Jaafari does not want to openly oppose the U.S. for the same reasons and in addition does not want the U.S. to destroy or undermine his government or his life and family.
Cheney’s recent threats of nuclear war against Iranian nuclear facilities and a massive bombing campaign make more sense in this light. This is the American response to the Iraqi/Iranian alliance. This is a threat of what will come if Iraq and Iran continue to develop their alliance. The only way to destroy Iranian influence in Iraq is to destroy Iran.
So both the U.S. government and the “elected” Iraqi governments are pretending to be friends, when they are in fact, MORTAL ENEMIES. The United States has no allies in Iraq. It is the enemy of the Insurgents, the Jaafari government, all Sunnis and Shia and is no friend of the Kurds who are seeking an independent nation and we can expect a lot of fighting between them and a lot of divergent factions of Iraqis.
This is a ridiculous situation, but it is not unusual in it’s convolution. Just think about the events surrounding the Iran Contra scandal. In Iran-Contra the U.S. used Iranian monies from sales of U.S. weapons through Israel to support a U.S. instigated war in Central America and to seek release of U.S. hostages held in Lebanon. At the same time this was occurring Iraq and Iran were at war with each other and the U.S. supported both countries with arms and or logistics.
Scott Ritter has reported along with others that there are covert operations in Iran by U.S. supported insurgents and spies. If Americans are seeking to undermine the Iranians, you can be sure that the Iranians are seeking to undermine the American presence in Iraq as well.
The only avenue for Bush is to avoid a confrontation with the “elected” government of Iraq by attacking Iran. Destroying Iran will their destroy their influence on Iraq and put the Iraqi government into a more dependent situation with the U.S. the thinking goes. But what will actually happen is something much worse, something utterly destructive to all nations of the world and their interests. What will happen is an increase in chaos and uncertainty. The use of Atomic weapons in any form, whatever their application will cause the entire world to move toward fear and isolation in the realm of economy, technology, trade and commerce.
that instead of
….(This isn’t U.S. government spin by the way to prepare the U.S. public for war with Iraq. Iraq really is supplying weapons to Iraqi insurgents)….
You meant: “…war with Iran. Iran really is supplying weapons to Iraqi insurgents.”
However, Bushco will use this kind of info to try to push a war with Iran.
It’s odd how Iran and Iraq have been enemies for hundreds of years, maybe even thousands. But, I guess, even Persians and Arabs can find common cause in hating American intrusion in the Middle East. Of course, once we’re gone, some Iraqis are going to realize their government has been taken over by Iranians and the bullets will keep on flying and the bombs will keep exploding…
yes. I will correct it Thanks
Posted today at his blog – Sic Semper Tyrannus.
He lays out how Iran could sensibly support the current Shi’a led government in Iraq, provide support to Shi’a militias, and still provide explosives to Sunni insurgents.
Wow! Who is Pat Lang?
This is and must be obvious if your watching what’ happening. But just think where this puts the U.S. They have to attack Iran to stop this from continuing.
He presents it as conjecture. i think he’s being polite. It’s pretty clear this is what’s going on
Though Lang made no mention of this…I would like to hear what he or anyone thinks about what agreements Jaafari and Chalabi made with the insurgents and what insurgent groups are involved. This is heading for a showdown.
I don’t think Cheney is kidding about using Nukes. They have wanted to use them all along somewhere. This is madness. Someone has to stop these guys, they are going all the way on this!
I don’t know that people realize what’s happening or what the consequences of this stupid, unescessary war are turning out to be.
Thanks Boo man.
I have always wondered… how many people are there in the ‘intelligence agencies who are intelliegent? Patrick Lang could answer that question.
What does he think of Intelligence Agencies? He’s been in them.
“How many people in the intelligence community are intelligent?” An interesting thought. Actual intelligence work, i.e., the analysis of raw data into coherent thought, or the handling of foreign agent assets in the field requires a particular kind of intelligence.
It requires the kind of mind that lives “outside the box,” that challenges everything it encounters and that is able to empathize with the inhabitants of other cultures without becoming transformed into members of those cultures. It also requires the kind of education which has become a rarity these days, the kind of education focused on the human experience in all its richness, in general that kind of education used to reside in the Humanities but these days….
People of this kind do not “grow on trees,” and they are often such as to make more prosaic souls uncomfortable in their presence. As a result, the intelligence agencies hire many people who do not fit this profile, who are narrower and more conventional thinkers, who think that whatever has occurred in the past will continue to happen and who fail miserably in dealing with phenomena which they have never seen described before.
Most people in the intelligence agencies are of the second variety and the process of hierarchical selection for promotion and position favors them because they don’t “make waves.” There are also many administrative or technical positions in the agencies which simply require a person who will apply himself/herself and work hard.
In general (but not altogether) the non-creative types run the agencies. Pat Lang
Thanks for responding.
After listening to former intelligence agents on the talk shows I always wondered whether they actually believed what they were saying or were they actually that stupid or were they just in it for the exposure and money. Who is this Ken Allard clown for example? He looks and acts like bait for a fool killer. Well, the networks operate on that level too, so they are attracted to whats on that level.
I am not particularly smart but what is obvious is obvious and if you can predict what is going to happen in the future you have an understanding of the present (at the time of the prediction).
I would be interested in what your take on my assumption…that the Iraqi government is conspiring with elements of the Insurgents through the Iranians (you wrote about this coincidentally to me also and I was shocked at the simiarity in thinking-see above).
But what about Jaafari/Chalabi and to a less likely extent Talbani being involved in this plot against the US with the help of IRan.
I think there is an undeclared war between the US and and the Iraqi government. It seems to be so because it is the only logical place for both sides to go. The Iraqi Government cannot survive with American presence, only if the Americans leave. But this is a very tricky affair.
It seems clear that Chalabi is on another level intellectually and in terms of life experience (street smarts) than the Americans. I would not be surprised if he engineers this somewhat successfully.
I mean the Americans he’s dealing with are no where near him. He’s is manipulating the situation beautifully to his advantage. …Or perhaps he’s not so smart….the Americans are just so unbearably dumb that he has dealt with.
Chalbai’s visual appearance is very tell tale. He looks like a crook. He telegraphs this.