[From the diaries by susanhu. Thank you, Jerome, for telling this story, and for your deep concern. It’s almost impossible for us in the U.S. to grasp, let alone write about. Btw, Anderson Cooper is doing a CNN special report at 4pm PT on the mutilated corpses, etc. at the convention center. I hope it is carried internationally.]
I just wanted to flag two stories underlining the horror in Louisiana. One you’ve probably seen, as I have found it on CNN. It’s pretty harrowing nevertheless:
Victims feel forgotten in southeastern Louisiana
CHALMETTE, Louisana (AP) — The cars were swallowed, the homes shattered and the people left clinging for life. Survivors waited for help, but it seemed like so little, so late.
More than a week since Hurricane Katrina cut its swath along the Gulf Coast, word is only now starting to trickle out from this outlying area of some 66,000 people on Louisiana’s southeastern edge.
What’s said is filled with anger — residents feeling even more abandoned than hard-hit New Orleans — and disbelief.
“If you dropped a bomb on this place, it couldn’t be any worse than this,” said Ron Silva, a district fire chief in St. Bernard Parish. “It’s Day 8, guys. Everything was diverted first to New Orleans, we understand that. But do you realize we got 18 to 20 feet of water from the storm, and we’ve still got 7 to 8 feet of water?”
(…)
As relief efforts sputtered in the days after the storm, Verlyn Davis Jr., an out-of-work electrician, took charge. He transformed his parents’ bar and seafood restaurant, Lehrmann’s, into a shelter where he dispatches people to clear roads, hook up generators and help in the disaster relief process.
About 20 people have been staying there these days. On a boarded-up window out front is a blue spray-painted sign: “ABOUT TIME BUSH!”
“The governor and the president let thousands of people die and they let them die on their roofs and they let them die in the water,” said Davis, 45. “We got left. They didn’t care.“
Help has begun to pour in — the sound of the military helicopters overhead interrupts the silence. Search teams in boats pound on rooftops. They shout, “Anybody home?” But they know the answer.
“New Orleans took a beating,” said Jason Stage, a 47-year-old maintenance worker staying at Lehrmann’s. “But St. Bernard Parish and Plaquemines was ground zero.”
The other comes from Le Monde, and comes from one of their special correspondants inside NO. This is the original article in French, and below you can find a translation by Google corrected by me as required:
Floating corpses, polluted water: death drives out the living
The odor of dead has fallen on New-Orleans. Nine days after the cyclone, the rescuers patrol in boat in the zones flooded, searching for survivors but they cannot escape the corpses everywhere, floating in putrid water, wedged in cars or stuck in garbage. They have orders to leave them on the spot, nothing being ready to deal with them.
At the headquarters of the police force, Captain Bayard confirms that to its knowledge, the phase of recovery of the bodies has not started: “Our priority is to find survivors”, he says, acknowledging his impotence: “we have not been told the procedure to be followed to remove the dead.”
However, in order to prevent the corpses from drifting around, rescuers and police officers attach them by an arm, a leg or by the neck to the nearest tree, truck, or whatever traffic sign which still emerges. Then they note the exact location and transmit information to their headquarters, which has started to build a list. Some army units note the GPS co-ordinates of each body. On the other hand, the volunteer first-aid workers do not get close to the bodies and do not always provide information on those they saw.
CONTINUED BELOW:
In the districts where water invaded only the ground floors, the army teams search the houses, one by one. When they find bodies there, they make a special mark on the frontage. Sergeant Turner, of the 20th Battalion of the special forces of the American army, says that no house will be forgotten, even if the operation will undoubtedly take months: “Where water went up to the roof, we can do nothing yet. We will have to wait until the level goes down.” He knows that the worst is to be come: “In the next weeks, as water is pumped, we will undoubtedly find many victims in the buildings, including in the attics. It was the last refuge.”
MIASMAS AND BACTERIA
It is a specialized federal service, the D-Mortuary (Disaster Mortuary), which will manage the recovery of the corpses, because the more time passes, the more this mission will be complex and dangerous. Black and thick water, already saturated with chemicals and oil poured by the flooded factories, fills up with the miasmas and bacteria of the bodies in decomposition. One sees also many dead dogs, poisoned by water.
The persons in charge for the FEMA, based in Baton-Rouge, 130 km from there, say that some specialists in D-Mortuary are already on the spot with refrigerator trucks. An emergency mortuary was assembled close to Baton-Rouge, and 25 000 body bags are expected.
But no reliable figure on the number of victims, nor even on the number of corpses located to date, was published. Last week, during a press conference, the democratic mayor of New-Orleans, Ray Nagin, had advanced the figure of 10 000 died, but nobody knows on what he based this assertion. And some think now that the mayor perhaps spoke under emotion, or to feed the polemic which opposes him to the federal government on the insufficiency of first aid.
In the meantime, death drives out life. The army blocks the access to the city, and in view of the risks of epidemic, the mayor ordered, Wednesday September 7, the total evacuation of the center, including the spared zones. By force if necessary.
from today??
From yesterday afternoon on their website, which means that it would have been published in the paper dated today (9/9), but as it was not printed due to a strike, I am not sure it made it into any paper version.
Thanks! Why are the workers at the paper striking? is there a diary up on EuroTrib I should read?
Not sure; this happens once in a while. The printers are a stronghold of the CGT (communist-leaning union) and they have never been shy to use their powers.
It’s less spectacular than the train strikes (only papers missing, not transportation), but fairly similar in intent and scope.
I am always interested in how workers in other countires leverage their power, here in the US we seem to have less and less leverage as they devalue our labor…
I don’t want to hyjack your thread though, so perhaps we can talk more about it elsewhere!
If the government is compiling a database with GPS coordinates, it would seem that someone might file a freedom of information act request for this database, or at least a map, so we count the names or dots. Then we’d have a lower estimate of the death toll. From that we might extrapolate.
I suspect 10,000 is not an outrageous death toll estimate for Katrina. If you figure a population of, say, 3 million in the affected area, and 1 in 300 died, then you get 10,000 casualties.
I suspect 10,000 is not an outrageous death toll estimate for Katrina.
10K is an absurdly low estimate just for New Orleans
10,000 dead is an underestimation. St. Bernard Parish is literally covered with water. Buras La. is underwater.
25,000 body bags were ordered, so I think they know the numbers they are dealing with in terms of the dead.
More and more I blame state officials also. Where was Governor Blanco, where was Mary Landrieu when the world watched the horror at the superdome and convention center?
What in the fuck were they doing with their time, if their time wasn’t concerned with rescuing people and getting them food and water?
We have a right to know why these people, and how, they were left to die.
More and more I blame state officials also. Where was Governor Blanco, where was Mary Landrieu when the world watched the horror at the superdome and convention center?
Blanco was getting really angry about ‘looters’. Like TV sets were more important than human lives. I think there’s a great deal of blame to go around for this debacle of a mandatory evacuation. And the nursing homes? I’m haunted by the fact that nursing homes weren’t evacuated. I’m haunted by the faces of all those children and old folks. And Blanco was worried about property damage? When women were trying to give Naglin their babies dying of dehydration?
These people, all of them, were worried about the wrong things, angry at the wrong things. I do believe the Mayor gets it now. But those who stayed in Baton Rouge? No, I don’t think they get it.
This was a complete failure on all levels of government and the responses, in the main, continue to be depressing. the only congressional group that gets it (and they understood earliest) is the BCC (minus Harold Ford, DLC lacky) Howard Dean gets it. Tavis Smiley gets it. Tom Joyner gets it. Most white folks don’t get it, most black folk do.
How are you and yours doing, btw? Please do let us know if you need anything. I think of you often these past few days.
We are all well. It’s been a bit crazy in Baton Rouge running around with double the population now. The streets are choked. I’m seeing and hearing more about homeless here, evacuees who haven’t found shelter.
We all feel very fortunate despite the stress. I appreciate your kind thoughts and words.
but I do not have the reference. Looking at all the homes underwater in the poor neighbourhoods and hearing that there are bodies in half of them makes that number seem reasonable.
The worst I heard was the body of a seven-year old with her throat cut in the refrigerator at the Convention Center.
“Mikel Brooks told the New Orleans Times Picayune many of the dead were elderly, or showed signs of trauma.
There’s another one in the freezer, a seven-year-old with her throat cut,” he said.”
I go along thinking that I am strong, and then I read something like that and I crumble.
Canada.com
That IS strong, Sybil. Weak is not having those emotions. Just look at the Bushes
I thought I heard the BBC say early this morning (Thursday) that 80,000 body bags were being sent, but perhaps that was for the whole region. And I could have mis-heard, too.
I think the true toll overall will be in excess of 100,000, but we’ll probably never get a true number.
you realize that the number of (reported) civilian casualities in iraq is under 30,000. The highest estimate i have heard (granted this was a while ago) was 100,000.
Think about this for a second:
THE US GOVERNMENT MAY HAVE KILLED AS MANY CIVILIANS IN NEW ORLEANS AS IN IRAQ.
granted, these estimates are not at all exact in either case, but still, it gives an idea of what really happened.
The highest estimate i have heard (granted this was a while ago) was 100,000.
That was the Lancet study from about a year ago. The fact of the matter is that we killed that many civilians in Iraq in the first year. The administration didn’t allow their puppet Iraqi government to count their dead and, to my eternal shame, noone here objected much and everyone seems to believe the official figures despite the fact that, by now, they’re just silly if one bothers to think about it for a moment. We don’t know how many Iraqi civilians have died because not enough of us care.
I don’t know that the media will allow them to get away with deliberately undercounting the dead in the US. The media seems pretty pissed off (except for the uniformly vile employees of Fox).
The lackadaisical attitude toward the corpses is further damaging our image abroad, among the many already inclined to think us a bunch of animals.
among the many already inclined to think us a bunch of animals.
I don’t know that animals is quite right. When I read that the ‘pro-life’ Baker is openly celebrating the ‘cleaning out’ of public housing in NO I think it’s pretty obvious what a great many of us are. Animals tend to be more decent.
I believe it would behoove us to get someone on the recovery team pronto. We need someone that can be trusted to count how many dead are being pulled out. Write our reps and demand this?
While we all can agree rescuing the living should be the first priority, I don’t understand what I’m seeing. With all the teams in the area, why is no one tasked with going right behind the team marking the houses with the dead, or at least recovering the dead that were seen days and days ago?
I agree, this is incomprehensible to me that bodies are still not being recovered…left to rot, be eaten, disintegrate..what in god’s name is the problem?. The poor are abandoned when alive and being abandoned and given no respect when dead.
This is still a sickening clusterfuck at people’s expense, the people who lived through this and the mounting dead.
If this were an Islamic country, the bodies would be collected and buried with dispatch. Our supposedly Christian nation tolerates the public degradation of the dead.
In today’s privatized America, the bodies have to await issuing the disposal contract:
“Michael Brown, who heads the beleaguered Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), said a contract had been sealed with Kenyon International Emergency Services, Inc., which helped recover and identify some of the 250,000 tsunami victims in December and January, to deal with the dead.”
Police are arresting corpses for refusing to Leave New Orleans. According to Police “the Dead will recieve the full force of the law for their defiance.”
“It’s very typical of these types of people. Especiall the Black Dead people, they want expect US to do Everything!”
In an earlier post, I wrote about a trucking company here in Chattanooga which received an order or inquiry from Fema of trucks needed for transporting around 50k corpses. This company helps Fema all the time, so I would say the information is quite accurate. The reason for no one knowing the body count is obvious, the public will be outraged. It is damage control.
The customer service people in Chattanooga are aghast about this and most of them are Repubs, so just think about hearing these numbers being broadcast on CNN. No they do not want this to happen, it is just too terrible of news and this administration is working on damage control.
Sadly, some of the folks here in the south, tell me that the folks affected do not realize how vast of an area was hit because they were without communications and feel they were the only ones who were victims. When they relocate or evacuate which some 3000 have done here in Chattanooga, then they find out how extensive and vast the problem is. The south is a turning point for our Party, it is ours to lose if we just do nothing.