For your reading pleasure, I bring you As a Matter of Fact, No, I’m Not Happy It’s a Woman:
Think about it: generally speaking, where do you find good, conservative, traditional women? The answer is in the home, not the House. Traditional women are usually devoted to traditional endeavors, such as raising their children and tending to hearth and home. And when they are forced by necessity into the workaday world, they’re usually doing merely what is required to put three squares on the table. They’re not seeking to exalt themselves through careerism.
At the other end of the spectrum you find the Hillary Clintons, Barbara Boxers and Diane Feinsteins of the world. These women drank deeply of the cup of feminist Kool-Aid, imbibing its precept that fulfillment can only be found through worldly pursuits which, as we all know, were selfishly reserved for men, by men. Simply put, a traditional woman’s greatest dream is to raise a family; a feminist woman’s greatest dream is to create a village that can raise a family.
Oh, how I wish this guy had to say this crap in a crowded room of women. I’d love to see the carnage.
I’ll give him informed chauvanism… I’d like a piece of this guy myself.
Oh BooMan, if you got your wish you could sell tickets on pay per view. 😉
I need a shower after clicking that link, but I find this interesting:
Does that mean he doesn’t approve of Clarence “Pubic hair on Coke Can” Thomas due to his “epidermal melanin content”?
Put this guy in a room of bootribbers and there would only be a grease spot left.
…why a “born again” Bush insider like Miers is received with such joy by SCLB, Sen. Reid, etc.
And from the same screed I noticed this:
Cute, huh?
The pro-choice movement has made the bitter mistake of letting the “pro-life” side make the frame of “pro-choice = pro-abortion”. “Pro-choice” means just that; the freedom for a woman to stay at home and raise a family, to go out and have a career…or even to be happily single, as Miers appears to be.
The Right made fun and pooh-poohed HRC when she wrote “It Takes A Village”. Well, in my youth we had that village; it was called the neighborhood. My mom first went to work when I was 6 to bring in money to help raise 4 kids; that job later became a necessity when my dad died suddenly and she still had two kids at home under the age of 18. When my mom was at work and I got sick at school, the school could call Mrs. F., the nurse down the street who worked evenings after her husband came home, who would come and take me to her home and I’d lay on her couch and watch game shows Or the school could call Mrs. L., my piano teacher, and she’d come get me and I’d lay on her couch and read. And there was no way anyone could get into trouble without it being seen by Mrs. B., who was the first person in the neighborhood with an automatic dishwasher but who still seemed to be at the kitchen sink at all hours of the day and night, always watching. (My siblings and I joke that we had “neighborhood watch” before it was in vogue, thanks to Mrs. B.)
You know, if we had that “village” mentality, where neighbors knew each other and were watching out for one another, maybe we wouldn’t be so obsessed with child abductions, because there’d always be someone to watch the kids. The spouse and I live in an apartment complex with a lot of families and kids, and I’ve made it a point to keep an eye out for anything or anyone that looks out of place, especially in the afternoons when the kids are home from school.
Maybe that’s the biggest difference between the Right and the Left; the Right, despite their adherence to religionist arguments, are more in the Darwinist mode of “survival of the fittest” and “every man for himself” — while the Left is more aware of interdependence, of people and/or of environment.
You know, if we had that “village” mentality, where neighbors knew each other and were watching out for one another, maybe we wouldn’t be so obsessed with child abductions, because there’d always be someone to watch the kids. The spouse and I live in an apartment complex with a lot of families and kids, and I’ve made it a point to keep an eye out for anything or anyone that looks out of place, especially in the afternoons when the kids are home from school.
I find the savaging of the “village” concept puzzling, if not just down right sick. What kind of social isolationist freak do you have to be to believe this mess? No one can raise a child on their own. Of course parents have primary responsibility, but when you just have a baby, you need help b/c you’re tired, sore, and just a bit overwhelmed. And you will continue to need help, b/c parents need a break, and kids grow through social interaction.
This is baffling and nonsensical only to lazy ass wingnuts.
lazy ass wingnuts who grew up in the gated community, country club atmosphere, with hot and cold running servants — or those who aspire to that type of environment for themselves and their family.
Talk about a sense of entitlement! It’s just friggin huge.
Hey dickass! Yeah, you!! (no , not you BooMan, no, not you either….)
What I wouldn’t GIVE to have the luxury of not worrying about putting three squares on the table AND being a mom to my two kids at the same time. Oh, the things I could do if I coould focus on “tending hearth and home” as a full-time profession!
Some of us excell at both — what a novel concept, eh? Fuck you and your “traditional woman”. (Not so be taken as a slam against women who have the opportunity to stay out of the work force and choose that — I am only saying I WISH I had that choice — I do not.)
people a real living wage, then maybe more mothers would be able to make the choice to stay home with their kids…oh, but that would be “socialism”, wouldn’t it?
Exactly.
of American families consist of two married parents living on the husband’s income ….
You have just defined the “traditional woman” of our time and place.
When Selwyn Van Winkle finally wakes up, please break it to him gently.
comment. A very long time ago I stopped considering any man who thought along these lines. I don’t see them any longer in a crowded room and I don’t acknowledge them in small settings either. I simply don’t seem to be able to see them any longer-they are invisible, and that includes the quarterback on the my old high school football team…..just ask the stupid fuck!
my beautiful wife and I have decided that I will be staying home with our children when they start school and work part time while they are in school.
I am going to become a house husband and if asshat wants to denigriate me about that I dare him to step up to my 6 ft 230 lbs of grizzled old street drunk and say something to me. I have not struck another human being since I found recovery, yet this asshat could get me to open that door for just a moment.
I am grateful that my wife with her education will be moving up in her job very successfully over the next two to three years and I will only have to work part time. This works only because I am 12 years older than her and she will have a longer work life than myself, lol.
How AWESOME!, gdw! and congrats to your wife! Really, what does it matter who stays home? House-husbands are quite grand as well — my older son had the opportunity to be with his dad for a couple of months while he was looking for work and they both got a HUGE amount out of it! And, my husband has said on more than one occasion that if the opportunity ever presents itself (i.e., we don’t need two incomes to get by), he would LOVE to be the one to opt out of the workworld!
I didn’t mean to leave out dads!
I am really looking forward to being a father.
for making that decision, GDW. I think you’ll find that your relationship with your children will be much deeper and better than the “typical” father-child relationship.
Oh, and if you want to meet the asshat in a dark alley someplace, I’ll help hold him down; I’m only 5’3″ but I probably outweigh the dude…
thank you and lets take that asshat out for joy ride.
Time to play “spot the unstated assumption”!
Why is a “traditional woman” a good thing? For that matter, what is a traditional woman? Whose traditions are we speaking of? I suspect Mr. Schmuck would be very unhappy with a traditional Amazon woman, to pick an example out of thin air. For the few seconds before she took his head off, at least.
I tried to be a tradtional woman once. (“traditional” as defined via the fundamentalist christian values of my time) Turned me into a raving alcoholic. 🙂
…BooMan? A disgusting, typical screed, and certainly one to switch on our outrage glands, but I’ve listened to this kind of stuff since I was a kid when a lot more people believed it, and it’s just not worth our time.
I’d put this in the “Know Thy Enemy” category — the fact that there are still people out there that buy this crap (like the ones who bought Rick Santorum’s book for full price instead of waiting for it to show up on the Bargain Book rack) shows how much more work we still have ahead of us…
I get a twisted sense of satisfaction from watching conservatives’ heads exploding. It’s one of my few vices.
It showed up in today’s Daou Report on Salon.com which is where I first saw this tripe.
I agree with you, but sometimes it’s useful to show that these “old” attitudes aren’t.
I’ve actually seen that blog before. Yikes!
This is just what passes for an intellectual among the Christian right. Ho hum. More ignorant yawping from yet another ignorant schoolboy who was once told he was clever.
As for the “traditional woman”, this guy, like all Republicans, either hasn’t a clue about he’s pontificating on, or is lying like a rug and hoping a greater fool will buy it.
He no doubt thinks the “traditional woman” is the Victorian lady, who comprised, what, a 20th of one percent of the population? The rest were out working for next to nothing, but they were invisible like the rest of the “lower classes”.
Does he think he’s talking about American women in some purile Reaganesque fantasy world? Sorry, but back in the day most Americans were farmers, including my grandparents. My grandmother’s work day would put to shame pretty much any contemporary american worker of any gender. Yeah, she raised the kids. She did much of the housework. She also raised all the food that was for eating while he raised what was for selling. She did at least half the milking, took care of the chickens, hauled in water from the pump, dawn til dust. The farm wouldn’t have had a chance in hell without her brain and her muscle. She could have pulverized this ass with two fingers.
The closest this guy has ventured toward reality is Desperate Housewives, whom he evidently gets real hard for in the name of Jesus.
And what is WRONG with wanting to create a village?
Communities, whether they be comprised of the neighbors living in a cul-de-sac, the extended family in the same town, fellow members of the church or synagogue , fellow employees and their families, members of any and all kinds of hobby groups that meet for social get-togethers, or online communities like this one — those are our villages, and no matter what the context under which they are created, they serve a vital purpose for their members.
Because sometimes the family just isn’t enough. Things sometimes happen that a family just can’t handle on its own — but the community can.
I can think of far worse things than wanting to create a self-sustaining, supportive village, where families can help each other. If that makes me a feminist, so be it.
Traditional women are usually devoted to traditional endeavors, such as raising their children and tending to hearth and home.
TRANSLATION: I’m a lazy idiot who wants to find a woman stupid enough to believe this tripe and willingly put up with, and clean up after, any and all bullshit I spew.
Are wingnuts sorry or what? Always talking about everyone else’s responsibility but never taking any. Always talking about everyone else’s laziness but think they should get a cookie for taking out the trash.
WORTHLESS!!!
Fuck no, I’m not traditional: I’d rather be at home watching the game…after indulging my MAC lipstick mini-obsession.
And get me a beer…
I’m not even going to click on the link. I refuse to give whoever that idiot is any additional traffic.
I have a T-shirt, a present from a friend, that says:
Nice sentiment, huh? Trouble is, the shirt is 30 years old. I thought we’d be long done with all this sexist shit by now, but obviously someone turned over one rock too many.
Here’s an interesting take on the “traditional woman” theme. I just finished reading a book called “Leaving Mother Lake.” Its a memoir about a girl growing up in the Moso culture in the southwestern part of China near Tibet. She is 40 now – so this isn’t some tale from the past. The Moso culture is matrilineal with families centered around the mothers. The men in children’s lives and households are brothers and uncles. The only people in the household with private bedrooms are women. Men can “visit” their bedrooms, but only with the woman’s permission. During the Cultural Revolution, the Chinese tried to impose marriage on the Moso. And they consider marriage a threat to their families!!!