I returned from D.C. on the 24th all fired up to end the war. I wrote about it. And then I ruminated for a week or so, before our local anti-war group finally had their next meeting. I’m still fairly charged about ending things in Iraq. Somehow. Through the collective power of the millions of us who want our government to stop the war.
But the actual mechanics of going to the anti-war group. Well – to be honest – they bring me down a little. I’ll tell you what I mean, if you join me, after the flip.
There are a lot of little things that make going to meetings with real people a lot different than blogging. I am comfortable at the computer. Clean thoughts. Sometimes even crisp thoughts. Drifting out my fingertips, into some electronic format I couldn’t explain for the life of me. And all your thoughts drifting back in, through pixels and diodes and what not. A good exchange. Erudite.
But in a roomful of 25 people – even 25 pacifists – it is hard to connect or agree on much of anything. A whole lot of time is spent jockeying for the limited bandwith that is available in the little church room where the group meets. There is only one channel. And everyone wants to have their say. So there is some struggle for the bullhorn, so to speak.
Then there are the other idiosyncracies. There is the moment of silence at the beginning and end. Started by a woman dinging on her little xylo-bell or something. Weird. Especially for a particularly non-spiritual agnostic. I mean, I kind of stare around – because I refuse to bow my head in imagination – and there are 24 other people meditating or praying. And I feel like the Family Guy or something, because I haven’t got a fucking clue. So that creeps me out a little.
And I have to tell you this. The meetings are open admission. So it doesn’t matter who you are. Undercover FBI Agent. Freeper. Everyone is welcome. And there is this part of the program, right after the opening xylo-bell where everyone introduces themselves. Last night, as the name parade went around the circle, a guy said, “Abstain.” An older woman said, “I didn’t catch that name.” And the guy said, “Abstain. I’m not giving you my name.” The guy looked just like a favorite bartender of my youth, at a rough joint in the bad part of my home town. It could have been him, only I know that bartender is still serving drinks ninety miles away, as this guy is here, asking the group to call him, “Abstain.”
Well. I can live with it. All for peace on earth, right?
But it gets a little bit worse. When we launch in and start talking about ideas, “Abstain” busts in at the first opportunity.
“I think a lot of people are unhappy with what our Government is doing,” a nice young woman is saying.
Before she is able to go on, “Abstain” interrupts with, “When you say ‘our Government‘ I’m not sure who you are talking about. That word, ‘Government,’ is just some concept that people want us to believe. So they can go ahead with their plans. That’s just how they got away with bringing down the towers on 9/11. There were no Saudis. And there wasn’t no plane that flew into the Pentagon….”
My mind kind of cut out. I stopped hearing. I started formulating a response. “I don’t want to debate the merits of whether or not our government was involved with 9/11, but I really think that message is counterproductive if we are talking about reaching out and making this a broad based movement,” I didn’t say.
Now I don’t want to turn this diary into that debate. I am open minded. I haven’t personally seen evidence that puts me anywhere in the ballpark of believing anything like the concept that “Abstain” was talking about. Still, I don’t want to cut off his right to speak (or anyone else’s). But I have to say, the idea just sounded bad, with him as the spokesperson at least.
I don’t think I was alone, as most others in the group were happy to politely ignore “Abstain’s” treatise on the root causes of 9/11.
I guess the lesson for me was that activism is really, really messy. Almost as messy as the movie A History of Violence, if you can equate the goofy/quirky meeting stuff with the blood and gore in the movie.
Anyway. The good news. I finally figured out how to get on the agenda for the next meeting. And I am thinking about urging the anti-war group to a whole new level of protest. They are extremely non-violent, non-confrontational folks. So I might be stretching it. But I am hoping I might convince them to take some “in your face” action against any local company I can find that is commercially profiting from the war. I mean the anti-war group has been around since before the War began, and they are scarcely known. So I figure it is time to ramp up the conflict-quotient. Nothing gets readers to a story like conflict, huh? We’ll see I guess. I just don’t feel like I can sit on my hands. Not knowing there are Cindy Sheehans in this world. Coming up on 2000 of them. And all those Iraqi parents whose children have been killed or maimed. How are they ever going to forgive us, if we don’t stop the madman. Me. You. The lady with the xylo-bell. And “Abstain,” too.
http://irregularnews.com/states/michigan.html This link seems to have a fairly big list of organizations that are involved in activism for your state. Something else I would maybe check out would be a Freethinkers group and see if any are in your area…maybe a more secular grounded group that is anti-war would be better suited to you.
Then again you could always start your own local anti-war group couldn’t you?
CI. I think you may be right. I hate to give up though. I am going to try to sell them on this plan, and then I’ll go from there.
I can feel your pain. I was telling a friend of mine about you on 9/24 as we were marching, and I told him your recent foray into peace groups reminded me of my days as a pro-choice activist. I was very invovled in the group for about a year. However, I had to stop going because they were just too annoying for words. We could come up with 100 good ideas, but getting them to employ even one was like pulling teeth. I have been scared of joining any other groups like this ever since!
Good luck, and thanks for the updates.
Keep us informed on developments Joe. I respect your willingness to take the next step, and am trying to pass along some positive karma through the diodes as it were.
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By Josh Marshall
Oct 05, 2005 — 02:30:01 PM EST
Al Gore gave a speech this morning on the decline of the media, our public discourse and the threat to American democracy itself. The transcript beneath the break …
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I came here today because I believe that American democracy is in grave danger. It is no longer possible to ignore the strangeness of our public discourse. I know that I am not the only one who feels that something has gone basically and badly wrong in the way America’s fabled “marketplace of ideas” now functions.
How many of you, I wonder, have heard a friend or a family member in the last few years, remark that it’s almost as if America has entered “an alternate universe”?
I thought, maybe it was an aberration when three-quarters of Americans said they believed that Saddam Hussein was responsible for attacking us on September 11, 2001. But more than four years later, between a third and a half still believe Saddam was personally responsible for planning and supporting the attack.
Current TV
Hmmm … interesting news —
Richard Sambrook, director of the BBC World Service and Global News Division, was speaking on a panel with other media professionals at a conference on “citizen journalism” organized by The Media Center. MC is a media think tank based in Reston, Va., and hosted by The Associated Press at its headquarters building in New York.
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Thanks.
Love love love reading about your exploits … whether it’s news blackouts or activism meetings!
You make me wish I could have been in the room watching you watch them. It sounds like quite the group of people, with ‘Abstain’ one of the more interesting characters. I can’t wait to hear about your next meeting, and your conflict-quotient ramping agenda item. When will you meet next?
Two weeks Olivia. Meet every two weeks. Sounds urgent, huh? But, then again, I think the regulars who have been at it for so long look at me and think, “Jerk! We’ve been at it. Where you been? Don’t give me your newbie idealism.”
I’ll let you know.
That’s always the hard part of joing a new group. Coming in, you’re ramped up and ready to GO! Balancing the enthusiasm, energy, creative juices, and ideas with the established group – trying not to step on toes – can be a challenge.
Looking forward to more exploits. Good luck!
Go to the next Democratic Party meeting in your area. Push for an anti-war platform and candidates.
I think we need to make anti-war activism party oriented or it’s just a waste of time.
I’ve been thinking about the Dem Party lately, too, Steven D. It’s almost like you’ve read my mind. I’ve never gone before. Heck, I had more ties with official Republican party apparatus from my days as prosecutor, than I ever had with Dems. But I’ve been thinking that.
I’ve also thought that, if the Dems fail to respond, we should consider an anti-war party. Basically, run a strict anti-war, pro-impeachment candidate in every district where the Dem candidate won’t publically sign on to that agenda.
See what I mean? See comment below. This is a great idea.
I know your frustration friend, but try to be patient. There’s a reason why you found that group, and in the end they will be thankful that you found your way to them. You will be the catalyst that changes them from talkers into activists.
As far as Mr. Abstain goes, he reminds me of some of the groups who took to the stage toward the end of the rally. Kinda like garbage time in a football game. Anyway, you and I know that the “message” started to get a little sloppy and radical. My thoughts on the 24th were similar to your thoughts about Mr. Abstain. He’s there, you gotta deal with him even though his message has the potential to damage the “cause”. Thats a challenge for sure. Keeping focused is hard but I have a sense that you will find your voice within that group and the others will come to view you as something of a leader because you are focused and you are ready to take it to the next level.
You are the epitome of an activist.
Peace
I don’t know if I have your confidence. I’m no leader. I’m a backbencher. Come late to lectures. Have a few laughs. Leave early for a few beers.
But I’m not giving up on it, that is for sure. You, my friend: Leader. You got that in you.
I think it will all work out, too. Somehow. Just keep plugging away.
to not give up on my species and my nation. I can tell someone what Iraq has been like from my perspective, but the people like you who instinctively know the horror of it all give me reason to celebrate being a human being. Thanks for being you!
You are too kind. I was a soldier though. I remember almost going to war. A radio broadcast in Korean telling my translator that the North was invading. A plane leading the vanguard of an invasion. Me, sitting in a motor pool within artillery range of the action, 6 minutes from an air strike. I almost shit. I was just a poor kid there for college money. I sure as shit didn’t want to kill nobody, or get shot myself. We quickly learned that it was one plane. Just a defector. But I’ll never forget that day. I know I’m no warrior. I mean, I could fight, given the right circumstances. But it doesn’t feel all that brave or heroic.
I’m glad you wrote here, too. I almost forgot. I meant to put this story in diary and just forgot. Someone in group has a friend in Iraq. Friend didn’t want his named used in group, but friend in Iraq (a soldier) said he was proud of his friend for marching on 24th, and said he wanted anti-war group to know that we were doing the right thing. Naturally, the message received a pretty warm welcome.
So anyway. We’ll get it stopped. Somehow.
Many people don’t know that as far as the Korea’s go now, at best we are only a speed bump if the North ever did decide to invade. We would slow them down a bit until help could arrive but if you are on the ground when it happens too bad for you! I know this one soldier who the last time he was there got really bored. During training missions he would come on the radio and say, “Herro, pwease wand (give North Korea coordinates) next to the wed fwag, vewy fwiendwy!” and his commander would come on hollering more than once, “Whoever is doing this, if I ever find out, you are in big trouble!”
Too funny.
Yeah. Wild place. One of the best experiences in the world for a poor 18 year old kid though. Learn to appreciate a lot about America.
Hey JoeB – thanks for going to the meeting and for writing about it.
I am reading these closely cause I am feeling called to do more than read. But I dread, just dread going to meetings.
I have been in meetings and on committees for much of my professional life. And I agree with you: “I guess the lesson for me was that activism is really, really messy.”
One question I ask of people when they speak theory or ideas is something along the lines of, “So what does this look like tomorrow?” I ask this sincerely cause as much as I love theory and ideas, I need it explained to me how they can be translated into something tangible.
You seem to be going in that direction with your idea for action.
Please keep writing.
I missed the last local Democrat meeting. I will call and find out when the next one is – see, you inspire!
Specifically, when writing this. I remember our talk in D.C. It is kind of hard for me to talk/listen to such intense things in person. But I was very appreciative of your comments.
You should definitely go back out. We’re going to change the world. One person at a time. And you have all those years of wisdom to share. Movement needs you.
Good luck, and may the Flying Spaghetti Monster touch you with his noodly appendage (this is not disrespectful, in case you haven’t heard of Flying Spaghetti Monster, just Google him — it is my secular way of saying God Bless).
🙂
Ah, thank you. I am so touched.
That is the heart of it all, isn’t it? Connected, whether we want to be or not, we are all on this, oh so, beautiful planet and there is no where else to go.
You have such a gift in seeing the absurd and the humor of this whole experience. And you are able to put it into words so others might share in your laughter.
And laughter is so magical. It unclenches the gut, the shoulders relax…and we open to the moment.
You are doing good work in a world gone crazed – I really do appreciate your voice. And I give you a hug ( ).
Perhaps next time we’ll meet at the inauguration parade in D.C. and you will feel comfortable getting a real hug (no need for cosmopolitans).
tampopo — thank you for the care package. I don’t know what to say, I loved it all!!
I was bummed that the package of rainbow leads opened and most of them were broken, but some are still long enough to use! You are really thoughtful, the pictures are beautiful, the writing even more so, and the sentiment that brought you to send it to be in the first place, amazing. Thank you so much!!
You are most welcome – along with the request that you NOT share is that you NOT save anything for another day, a better day, a special day…too many things sit unused waiting for the “perfect” time – every day is “THE” special day.
Take care of yourself, please.
Love to you – D.
I have had a nasty, nasty cold this week (sinus stuffy, sore throat, chest congestion, coughing, the whole deal) — when I get back from taking the kids, I am going to luxuriate in that rosemary and lavender for a bit!!
and, you’re right, evry day is THE special day (especially today — hee hee)
Love back to you, D.
In the Court of Public Opinion
In the County Of BooMan
In the State of Absolute Joy At Possible Indictments
BostonJoe,
Plaintiff
v.
Brinnaine,
Defendant.
Restraining Order
Be it known that it is ORDERED, that Brinnaine refrain, cease and desist from all OT posts, including posts about care packages, fruit cakes, hugs, and any other tokens of good will or appreciation, and that such care packages, fruit cakes, hugs, and other tokens of good will or appreciation should not be mentioned within a 500 foot radius of the posts by BostonJoe.
This is my way of saying — don’t ever apologize. I like it when you write in my posts, and I could give a shit what you say. Words are nice. And if they’re not, well it will just give us more to talk about
I sure hope you made it to the end of the restraining order to get the real message.
LOL!! of course I made it to the end — what a great thing to read first thing in the a.m.!!
A great start to what I am hoping will be a fantastic day for us all!
Hey, BJoe:
Figured from the name you were in my area, so, at first, I was going to offer to hook up with you to reinforce what you are trying to do.
I, too, came out of the 09/24 demo full of fire (I marched with Veterans for Peace). Unfortunately, I had to leave the country on Monday for a two-week trip overseas on business, so I’ve had to postpone my planned re-entry into anti-war activism until I get back to Boston next week.
Your post brings back (painful) memories of my previous forays into the world of activism — the refreshing but ultimately inefficient “ultra-democracy” meetings, where everyone supposedly has an equal voice, but where everyone seems too busy competing to spout ideas to actually translate those ideas into real action.
Such meetings can be useful as “brain-storming” sessions, but unless there is a smaller, action-oriented “leadership” that can synthesize the ideas, formulate them into a plan of action, and “lead” the group in the accomplishment of the plan, it’s only so much hot air.
My suggestion would be to try to find the potential “leaders” in your group, and see if you can organize a separate meeting with them to formulate a plan of action to bring back to the larger group.
If this stuff were easy, we would have won a long time ago.
Hang in there.
Sadly, I am neither from Boston, nor named Joe. But I bet you got a whole lot better peace organization there than I do in mid-Michigan. (And it ain’t all that bad here).
Thanks for the advice and words of encouragment though. We are in this movement together. I love veterans for peace. Patted a pure stranger, vet for peace on the back in D.C. and shared pleasantries. Wonderful. You guys have tons of credibility in my book.
Leadership. That is truly needed.
Well — best of luck.