Be careful what we wish for. This is terrible news.
Throughout the Miers brouhaha, there have been phenomena that have been very helpful to the Democratic party and to all of us:
1) the onus has been on the White House to vainly try to prove her credentials;
2) the bad guys were the conservatives who were bashing her every which way — and they were bad — as Arlen Specter just said, what happened to Harriet Miers was extremely disrespectful and shameful;
3) the nomination hearing would perhaps take up most of November and quite probably create all kinds of embarrassing sound bites for the White House and Senate Republicans, who would be in the daily, public spotlight of having to try to appear supportive;
4) I have a hunch she isn’t hardcore politically, and that would have been to the good. If she’d made it to the hearings, she’d have likely been confirmed. We would have had a fairly ignorant person on the Court, but she’d have law clerks up the ying yang to help her, and she’d get it eventually, and she’d tend to be more liberal over time; and
5) Sandra Day O’Connor would have remained on the Supreme Court as this all played out. This would have become particularly important had Miers stayed on as nominee into the Senate hearings, and taken up most of November — in one possible scenario, perhaps failing, and then forcing the White House into stalling and hemming and hawing until it eventually asked Miers to step aside.
Now we can expect, most likely, a very conservative choice.
And who will be the bad guys this time? Not the conservatives, whose nasty comments about Miers — Bork: “She can’t write except in cliches,”and on and on — Buchanan: “The president ran down the hall and grabbed the first woman he saw” — had dominated the news.
The bad guys this time will be us liberals who want “activist” judges.
Personally, I was enjoying the show, and relieved it wasn’t we who had to create the opposition this time.
And, please note that I am viewing this as the political game it is. We have zero power. We don’t have the White House, Congress, or the courts. It was such a relief, for once, to see the ‘wingers eating their own.
Now we’ll have to don our dented armor, mashed helmets and bent swords, bandage our wounds, and limp out to yet another in a seemingly endless string of very bloody battles.
The other army has other choices.
episode of ROME this week!
NO kidding!
Well, Tracy, what would Atia do?
and ask personal questions about how and why George chose her and what did they mainly talk about, after she had paid several people to start a rumor that George had become recently alarmed because he had begun thinking that Harriet was total idiot. Oh yeah, and before Atia slept with her she would have thrown her a wonderful party to heal from the bumpy road and told Harriet how intelligent and stunning she was.
Today, on such a sad day, do you she’d send Harriet one of her, um, gifts?
And what would her son Gaius Octavian — i cheated and looked up the spelling at hbo.com/rome — say about all this?
Titus Pullo would say, I’m just so sure, “Good riddance of that old bag.”
P.S. True confession: I find the opening credits scenes to be utterly mesmerizing — I stare, rapt, at those moving etchings and the guy with the wiggly snakes in his hair —
and I’m still painting on the bedroom ceiling. But the walls look like the reddish orange background for the Rome logo. When my husband watched the first episode with me he said, “look honey, they copied you”. I think it is about as accurate a portrayal of the Real Romans that we have thusfar. I love the opening credits too.
Kewl! WIll Tim and you join us on Sunday nights for a chat after the show? We did that with Deadwood, and it was a hoot.
It’s my Sunday treat for me. I run to my bedroom and shut the door and sink into the bed, it’s like having a present to open.
Ohhhhh …
I’m glad you give yourself presents. God knows you deserve them.
That’s how I feel too. I turn off every light and lie down in bed to watch.
Rome hasn’t won my heart like Deadwood did. But … it’s extraordinarily well done and, as you said, it seems to depict the Romans’ lives far more realistically than we’ve ever seen.
I’m still bummed about Six Feet Under too.
We need more contemporary family dramas in a way that can be done as realistically as they can on censorship-freer HBO. Last Sunday, I tried watching ‘Desperate Housewives” because there was no new Rome, but — what a pale and tepid and faintly humorous contrast to something as poweful as Six Feet Under.
Say, have you watched “Weeds” on Showtime? It’s a half-hour contemporary family drama that’s also totally hilarious and makes fun of everything (a la South park). Its season is over now but it’ll be rerun.
ALSO: “HUFF” is a brilliant contemporary family drama on Showtime. Blythe Danner just won an Emmy for playing Huff’s mother. Huff, a psychiatrist, is Hank Azaria. The plots involve his patients and his troubled brother. Oliver Platt is Huff’s best friend, clever attorney, and a mess. Darcy and I are crazy about it — I think you can rent the first season DVD now.
I have enjoyed everything though that it seems that you enjoy televisionwise so I will give it a try. I have seen it on the guide list but I didn’t know what it was about.
I don’t think that “Huff” and “Weeds” are replaying on Showtime right now, but they will. The acting alone is reason to watch both. But they’re also quirky, touching, and wild like Six Feet Under.
I never got into “The L Word.” Should i?
That’s actually my favorite part of the show – the title music also sticks in my head…
Okay! This does it! We’ll have a ROME diary on Sunday nights …
i tried one when it first began.
And that last episode, with Cleopatra and the boy king! omg!
because you put the Rome diary up. I was bummed about 6 Feet Under going under, I didn’t want to give the series a chance. I watched the first episode a little biased against it, but you put the Rome diary up and I thought I would hang out a little while longer to check it out.
talking about Rome, I’m going to have to suck it up and get HBO!
I loved the Deadwood series when I watched it on DVD…and it was the discussions here that got me interested in watching it.
Try dancing to the music! My cats find that really interestnig.
despite her ramblings of years ago, I happen to think Harriet Miers was “a very conservative choice.”
And I’m not treating this as a political game. I’m looking for signs of life in a Democratic Party that blew the Roberts hearings by capitulating on document requests and not highlighting to America just how out of the mainstream Judge Roberts’ views are. Instead, we had Democrats waxing prolific about his lovely family and wonderful life story.
I just want them to do their jobs, which to my mind would have been grilling, then voting against, Miers. They will have the same job to do now against a new nominee. Nothing’s changed from that point of view.
I do take your points. But I’m more worried that the Senate no longer takes itself seriously enough to do the advice and consent job well in any case, and I’m looking for reassurance there before I worry about the more partisan aspects.
ubikkibu, I happen to agree with you here. Since 1999-2000, we all have lost our government. This crime family has hijacked us for their own good. I simply want us back to the democracy we once had. I think both sides have a lot to be desired. I think that they need to get down to the basics of running our government and not with corprate or religious minds at that. We must get back to doing what is right for a change…not what will benefit a few and not all of us.
It has always been like this, since day one that this WH has convened. We all know this! The dems didnt fight when they had majority before 2002. They really have got to pull their pants up and leave this party of gastly deeds being done by the right wing. and that includes the DLC as well…however, I can not see this happening in a million years.
Why do you think C Matthews has Al Shrum on his talk show on a daily basis nowadays. nothing new to see here, IMHO.
I want my country back from all that have hijacked it…and I really mean ALL……..
i think we may have a few more fascinating episodes left
before there even is a nomination….everyone is talking about the white house losing power….they are bringing up all the creepy judges they were looking at last time….abu gonzalez keeps coming up and we get to watch the pseudochristians gnash their teeth over that prospect….who knows what whcak job he will nominate next….maybe someone who has a juicy sex scandal in their background….its so exciting.
add the coming indictments and the abu graib pics that should be out any minute and its like someone keeps serving me ice cream sundae after ice cream sundae loaded with fun and exciting toppings.
and then next year when roe or griswold are overturned we get to watch the country of morons who voted dumbass into office again recoil in horror over what they have done….as we usher in 30 years of democratic control of everything.
i lick my chops with anticipation.
It seems to me that her withdrawal was timed to deflect press attention away from the Fitzgerald indictments. Not that Bush nominated her for that purpose, but since she was going down anyway he thought it best to at least use it to consume a news cycle. I think we can thus judge the efficacy of this diversion by how much press attention is focused on Miers after the indictments come down. If the MSM ignores Miers and instead focuses on Fitzgerald, Bush will have lost media control this cycle. –M
Absolutely agree Maynard. Why withdraw now with another week+ before the hearings started? Let’s hope the media will start walking and chewing gum at the same time.
just told Wolf that gay-bashing is an excellent issue for Republicans, and Bush should have nominated a gay-basher, since gay-bashers in Ohio re-elected him.
Are you serious?
yeah, he called it the anti-gay marriage amendment that was on the ballot. But we know the code.
you know Booman, if the republicans loos the abortion and the antigay issues, they have not one damn thing to fight us on, now do they??!! This feces is just plain infantile
so morally and emotionally fucking immature get elected by anybody with more than a 6th grade education????
I share your concerns — every one of them. But, I still think this is heartening news, if for nothing else, the symbolism. When a President who has defined himself by resolve (inflexibility), backs down on something this important, it sends the message that he is a defeated man. If Miers had been confirmed, not only would we have had a spectacularly unqualified Supreme Court Justice, it would have been an indicator that Bush still had his mojo working. As one left wing publication, I can’t remember which, put it, “Even when they lose they win.” Now they look like losers, plain and simple, imho. The damage is done, in terms of his standing with ultra-conservatives. They no longer trust Bush or see him as their champion. Now he’s just another weak President, like his father, who has to be bullied into doing their bidding. They won’t be putting humpty dumpty back together again, anytime soon.
it sends the message that he is a defeated man
very good point!
I wish Chris Matthews were saying that too.
I wish Chris Matthews would say a lot of things. He used to be a good news man. Now he’s just a knee pad wearing whore, who on rare occasions says something that reminds you of the journalist he used to be.
I agree and I think we need to look at the broad picture as well.
If Bush now nominates an uber conservative and the Dems filibuster forcing the nuclear option, it would not be surprising for those in the general public (if this is played right by the Dems) to see a government in even more turmoil. The majority don’t trust the congress and senate as it is right now and they sure don’t support Bush.
It was mentioned on CNN that Bush doesn’t have enough support from his winger base even if he does nominate an openly abortion-killing candidate and the Republicans, as Ted Kennedy talked about on CNN, will now have to prove that they are not the ones looking for activist judges by using litmus tests – two phrases that have been used against the Dems for a long time.
Miers’ withdrawal letter:
“I’m one of the worst candidates ever!”
Okay. It actually says this:
That’s a bunch o’ crap.
When Dems wanted documents before from the WH on, well, anything, executive privilege was claimed and the WH got away with it.
“the confirmation process presents a burden for the White House and our staff that is not in the best interest of the country.”
No, Harriet, your total lack of experience was not in the best interest in the country.
As I said before when I called for her withdrawal, only a person with a huge ego and so little experience would have accepted the nomination to begin with. She can’t blame this on the process.
yup, and besides she has to get ready to help fight the Fitz and his upcoming indictments. This is what she really was hired for in the first place, now wasnt it. Besides, I dont think she was apt enought to really learn constitutional law quick enough to get her thru the process, and they/she know this all along…but boy howdy wasnt it fun while it lasted…..;o)
Brenda, that is a great point! And it’s one I haven’t heard the pundits on MSNBC note.
Of course he needs her for the Fitz matter. And how could she study up for the Senate hearing and do that at the same time?
or good for them that she’s on the case?
will the all the i’s be dotted, t’s crossed?
has she paid up her dues to whatever bar association oversees lawyers who practice at the Hague?
Susan, lets face it, she is a corprate lawyer. How can she be intutive enough to learn constitutional law. Besides, she has never been a judge either. All this taken into consideration, she just failed flat on her face from the get go. I do not think Fred Thompson can leave his actorship long enough to get the job done quick enough..;o) Now seriously, how could anyone become excited about this failure like bush is always the one to become excited…he the only thing he becomes excited about is his daily dose of “you are the most intel. man I have ever known” feces!
It was terrible news when it was happening, its terrible news now that its not.
The fact the Meirs spectacle/debacle (and that other treason/traitor thing) might be seen as relatively good news is profoundly emblematic of where we are right now. And we all know it.
No matter how “entertaining” the decay of the criminal class is, we all still have to wake up some day with a hangover: tens of thousands dead, millions more in poverty, our political system undermined, our planet broken.
There’s nothing worse than a Supreme Court justice who knows nothing about Constitutional Law, but has all sorts of opinions about everything. That’s the mark of an ideologue, and a born-again ideologue is worse than a Scalia any day of the week, if you ask me.
She’d most likely have just fallen in line behind Scalia and Thomas (i.e., Scalomas) rather than try to develop her own judicial philosophy–that would have kept the ideologues happy and it would have been much less work than actually studying constitutional jurisprudence.
From the start, I’ve thought that the primary reason for her appointment was to personally carry water for Bush & cronies–to make sure while Bush remains in office that executive privilege can be used to thwart investigations, to favor big oil and gas over all challengers, and to make sure questionable elections that favor Republicans aren’t examined too closely.
Naturally, there’s plenty of reason to worry about who might be the new nominee. And if it’s an ideologue, who knows whether the Democrats will find their collective spine and put forth any effective opposition. But I’m not sorry that Miers is out of the running. I think she would have done some serious damage.
Susan, your post has brought back all the angst about the Democratic Party’s ability to even speak, let alone fight a good fight. I heard some dame interviewed by phone on CNN this morning. I never did find out who she was but she is some sort of wing nut leader. She was identified as a ‘movement conservative’. She arrogantly stated that the conservative movement is extremely powerful in this country, because they singlehandedly caused Mier’s withdrawl.
As much as that turned my stomach and brought to mind many play’s on the words “movement conservative”, it made me realize something. Conservatives seem to think that they will go on forever, but this time, when power shifts things could be different. What if the general average American who is turning on Bush realizes that the things they dislike the most about Bush are the very things conservatives are championing?
I think that right about now they are so dripping with arrogance and hubris that those very same movement conservatives are going to overplay their hand in any upcoming nomination fight. They are at their most outrageous when in this state. Maybe they will suceed in turning off the electorate enough to bury themselves. Once you find the bunny drawn in the tree and circle it, it’s hard to hide that bunny again.
God i hope you’re right.
My one concern is that most of the conservative writers are quite bright, highly knowledgeable people… if they were just whackos like those nuts at Free Republic, it’d be another matter.
was Ann Coulter herself.
Concur 100% with your analysis, Susan.
She is malleable and would have come around (if she hasn’t already). We just lost the best deal we could have gotten.
And what’s (or, who’s) next?
Any of thesestrike you as more palateble than Miers?
The “female John Roberts”, perhaps?
Dare I say it?
God must be on our side.
Things look bad, yes. But they have looked worse.
The “‘cons” will come out for a known wingnut judge who can unify support. Plus, Miers will be in Bush’s huddle defending against Fitzgerald.
The problem is, the hurricanes, the war and the indictments offer ‘cons no political cover. The electorate is sick of it, and a new cast is going to play in Washington after 2006.
Susan, your last para spoke very powerfully to me, personally. Those of us in the trenches are having to re-load, put on the kevlar, clean our glasses, and figure out who is taking shots at us so we can protect our often clueless leaders from the huge machine that is still working well enough to do huge damage just by revving the engine.
It’s just so damn overwhelming.
I’m deeply ashamed sometimes that I personally don’t write more about environmental and animal welfare issues but — until we change regimes, and regain control of Congress — we’re powerless to stop the assault on the environment and wildlife.
The Supreme Court is to take up three abortion-related cases on November 30, and now it’s more than likely that SDO’C will still be around to hear them rather than her replacement. Salon also says, however, that Bush might announce his new pick tomorrow.
I heard that as well. It will be tooooo late for a new guy to step in and get the job completed. I feel this process of comformation will take a little longer than most. :o) good point tho.
On a gut level, this all seriously concerns me, when combined with growing evidence all around us of just how far the long and powerful fingers of the religious right are reaching into our lives already. Now they can claim the power to subvert presidential judicial nominations as well as undermining womens reproductive rights, siphoning off tax money into faith based initiatives, infiltrating the school systems, and making it legal for religious medical professionaly to refuse care on releigious grounds. This is like a deep slow growing cancer that has spread much farther already that many realize.
The downside first. Democrats will not be able to push for documents relating to Meirs’ understanding of presidential power. But the presidential power questions don’t go away.
The bright spots: