Via Daou Report … No Habeas for Them, No Habeas for Us, from TalkLeft:
Tinkering with habeas corpus is a dangerous thing. Today, Sen. Lindsay Graham and his fellow Senators told you they are only restricting habeas rights of enemy combatants, i.e., foreigners. But on November 16, the Senate Judiciary Committee will hold a second hearing on S. 1088 (pdf), a bill that would gut habeas corpus rights for Americans..
This is what we were urging people to call their senators about yesterday. There were five Democrats who voted YES on Lindsey Graham’s bill. Among them, Sen. Joe Lieberman and (what?) Sen. Ron Wyden:
Conrad (D Nd) (202) 224-2043
Landrieu (D LA) (202) 224-5824
Lieberman (D CT) (202) 224-4041
Ben Nelson (D NE) (202) 224-6551
Wyden (D OR) (202) 224-5244
The “moderate” Republicans who voted yes?
Collins (ME) (202) 224-2523
Dewine (OH) (202) 224-2315
Mccain (AZ) (202) 224-2235
Snowe (ME) (202) 224-5344
Warner (VA) (202) 224-2023
Hagel (NE) (202) 224-4224
Notice how McCain does an end-run around his much-touted anti-torture bill. If detainees are “rights free” (such a term), they’re beyond the safeguards of legal remedies and protections. Some people suspect that this is the deal that McCain made with his devils — he’d get his anti-torture legislation but Lindsey Graham would get a stealth correction with the amendment yesterday.
Below — the amendment will nullify legal challenges of 200 detainees:
From today’s Democracy Now! headlines:
Senate Votes To Remove Prisoners’ Right to Challenge Detentions
On Capital Hill Thursday, the Senate voted to take away Guantanamo Bay prisoners’ right to challenge their detentions in United States courts. The measure, put forward by Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, would override a Supreme Court decision last yearThe New York Times reports the amendment would nullify legal challenges currently filed by nearly 200 of the 500 detainees currently held at Guantanamo. Five Democrats joined 44 Republicans to pass the measure by a vote of 49 to 42.
However the New York Times reports the victory may be short-lived as nine senators were absent, and are pushing for a second vote as early as Monday.
about this, I thought of the line from “Good Night, and Good Luck” that’s mentioned in all the previews on TV: “You cannot defend freedom abroad by denying it at home.”
So, Mr. Bush, tell us how we’re better than Saddam Hussein, Mohammar Qadafi, or any other two bit dictator who “disappears” people he doesn’t like? I guess that two-ply Constitution toilet paper is extra cushy on your rear end…
Oh, yeah, “9/11 changed everything.” It set up you and your neo-con buddies to do the work Your Father Below had given you to do — to destroy 200+ years of goodwill that this country had built. Freedom? Sure, if you’re rich enough to pay for it.
Yeah, I’m a little pissed…
If the entire GWoT is seen from the perspective of exploiting it to quietly influence global finances and politics, then it is possible to see Cheney and Graham both working together to achieve a common goal.
Silence any opposition and/or whistleblowers when necessary.
If McCain did make this deal, what did he really get? One step forward, two steps back. I suppose he can tout his “gain” should he run for higher office. Ughh.
t’s speculation but … he was on all the news shows last night. I watched PBS Newshour, and there he was … and on and on.
Did you see Lindsey Graham arguing fo his anti-habeas amendment?
I thought he was going to pop an artery.
Can someone with an understanding of the constitutional issues involved here say whether there’s any chance that the revocation of habeas would be overturned by the courts?
Lawyers are woried about this.
In my story yesterday on the amendment vote, I quoted at length from an LAT op-ed by three attorneys.
And then there’s the changing complexion of the courts. Who knows if Bush’s judges will give a damn.
I can’t stand this — first it was the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act and people all saying, it’s ok, it doesn’t apply to American citizens, when in fact, as we have seen borne out the past 4 years, it sure as hell does, your citizenship doesn’t protect you AT ALL. Just ask Mr. Padilla.
Now this? No recourse, just get used to that phrase, because that is what we are all going to be left with: NO RECOURSE.
Maher Arar is a Canadian citizen who spent some time working here in Boston. He did nothing wrong, from all accounts and investigations, and had his life destroyed without recourse to the specious claim of ‘state secrets’.
We are being asked to give this ultimate authority to the same ones who have refused to be honest with us.
It may be too late, already.
This is the kind of shit that happens when the promise of Law AND Order is replaced with the idea of Law OR Order.
One concept is a function of the true process of Democracy; the other is a precursor to and a function of tyranny.
Hopefully those 9 senators will quash this.
Chief Justice Roberts recused himself from Hamdan’s appeal which the Supreme Court agreed to hear on Nov 7. Will the other justices agree with his lower court decision that would allow absolute executive power in these detentions?
The Center for Constitutional Rights (which represents several Guantanamo detainees) writes:
While the Administration and its supporters have tried to characterize the men being held at Guantánamo as the worst of the worst against all evidence, the fact is that even the military has admitted that they often apprehended the wrong people. Most have no ties to Al Qaida, many were turned over to the U.S. for bounty, and many more were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. If they have no way to appeal their innocence or their status, they will be left to rot in detention indefinitely.
Most Americans don’t realize how badly our habeas rights have been eroded over the last decade. Issues arising from the last attempt in 1996, under the Anti-Terrorism & Effective Death Penalty Act, are still being litigated. Habeas is the byzantine bedrock of death penalty appeals.
This new legislation (Streamlined Procedures Act) would all but strip the federal courts of jurisdiction over constitutional claims regarding imposition of the death penalty, unless the state court found no error at all, OR the error has already been deemed “structural” by the US Supreme Court. Structural errors are ones that are so bad that they are reversible “per se”, i.e, without any showing of prejudice. They are few and far between: denial of counsel altogether, denial of a jury trial, denial of defendant’s right to testify, and a handful of others. Let’s just say that the State courts have a history of finding all sorts of outrageous behaviors to be “harmless” and the Federal courts often already agree, even without this legislation.
On a somewhat related note, CA has scheduled ex-Crips founder turned anti-gang violence crusader, Stanley “Tookie” Williams, nominated several times for a Nobel prize, to be executed on Dec 13. DP posterboy for some, posterboy for gubernatorial clemency for many (including the 9th Circuit federal judges who turned down his appeal), any errors in his trial have been declared “harmless:”
Now upheld by the United States Supreme Court, this ruling will establish as “case law” for the nation the right for prosecutors to exclude jurors on the basis of race and to denigrate minority defendants in front of all-white juries.
The ruling is a frontal attack on the civil rights of all Americans.
The California State Supreme Court had twice censured this prosecutor for equally discriminatory behavior.
“Harmless” indeed! It’s my impression that under the new legislation, these claims couldn’t even be heard by a Federal judge.
treats foreigners in the same manner as it own nationals in the courtroom. Period.