I’ve seen a number of blogs refer to that this AP story about American troops taking insurgent’s wives hostage:
The U.S. Army in Iraq has at least twice seized and jailed the wives of suspected insurgents in hopes of “leveraging” their husbands into surrender, U.S. military documents show.
In one case, a secretive task force locked up the young mother of a nursing baby, a U.S. intelligence officer reported. In the case of a second detainee, one American colonel suggested to another that they catch her husband by tacking a note to the family’s door telling him “to come get his wife.”
In one memo, a civilian Pentagon intelligence officer described what happened when he took part in a raid on an Iraqi suspect’s house in Tarmiya, northwest of Baghdad, on May 9, 2004. The raid involved Task Force (TF) 6-26, a secretive military unit formed to handle high-profile targets.
“During the pre-operation brief it was recommended by TF personnel that if the wife were present, she be detained and held in order to leverage the primary target’s surrender,” wrote the 14-year veteran officer.
So the fact that the U.S. military has done this seems to be an established fact. I’ve seen a lot of blogosphere outrage over this. What I haven’t seen is anyone noting that this is actually a war crime.
The Geneva Conventions on Treatment of Prisoners of War, Article 3 states:
In the case of armed conflict not of an international character occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each party to the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following provisions:
1. Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.
To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:
(a) Violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture;
(b) Taking of hostages;
You cannot take a non-combatant hostage. I think a woman nursing a child at home is definitely not a combatant, and it is illegal to hold her hostage.
Not that this is new. Back in November 2003, the U.S. took the wife and daughter of Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri hostage. Izzat was a “top Saddam associate”. And the western media again did not ever mention that this is a war crime.
The Council on Foreign Relations said this in 2003:
What does international law say about prisoners of war?
The most important rule, enshrined in Common Article 3 of the 1949 Geneva Conventions, is that prisoners of war (POWs) must be treated humanely.
What are the most serious violations?
Violence, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment, and torture.
Violations of personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment.
Sentencing and executing prisoners without a judgment handed down by a regularly constituted court that offers all standard judicial guarantees.
Hostage-taking.
You might think that ignoring the Geneva Conventions is something the U.S. can just do whenever it feels like, since “international law” has no forum to prosecute any offenders.
Except that American domestic law specifically states that the U.S. must abide by the Geneva Conventions. U.S. Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 118 § 2441 states:
(a) Offense – Whoever, whether inside or outside the United States, commits a war crime, in any of the circumstances described in subsection (b), shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both, and if death results to the victim, shall also be subject to the penalty of death.
(b) Circumstances.– The circumstances referred to in subsection (a) are that the person committing such war crime or the victim of such war crime is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 101 of the Immigration and Nationality Act).
(c) Definition.– As used in this section the term “war crime” means any conduct–
(1) defined as a grave breach in any of the international conventions signed at Geneva 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party;
(2) prohibited by Article 23, 25, 27, or 28 of the Annex to the Hague Convention IV, Respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land, signed 18 October 1907;
(3) which constitutes a violation of common Article 3 of the international conventions signed at Geneva, 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party and which deals with non-international armed conflict;
C3 is the relevent section, since that’s the part about taking non-combatants hostage. The punishment for a violating this statute is either life in prison or execution in American law.
Holding the wife of a wanted fugitive/terrorist is a war crime in American law.
Here’s a few more Geneva Conventions that the U.S. has broken. The same Article 3 of the POW protocol:
To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:
(c) Outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating and degrading treatment;
Of course the treatment of prisoners in Abu Ghraib certainly rose to the level of “outrage upon personal dignity”. Even if you believe in the “few bad apples” theory, the truth is that not a single person has ever been charged (much less convicted) of violating the Geneva Conventions or American war crimes violations.
You can read the details here by Lynndie England and Graner and the rest were charged with “dereliction of duty” and “maltreatment” of prisoners. Not a word about either torture or war crimes or violations of the Geneva Conventions.
It also happened to other Iraqi POW’s at other locations as well, although those were less well publicized.
But that 4th Protocol of the Geneva Convention is a rather lengthy document. Article 13:
[p]risoners of war must at all times be protected, particularly against acts of violence or intimidation and against insults and public curiosity.
You might remember that when Iraqis put American POW’s on television, this was considered a war crime and a violation of the Geneva Conventions. Yet the U.S. has displayed Iraqi POW’s on television on multiple occasions.
Not to mention that Saddam Hussein’s image was also broadcast all around the world when he was captured.
But wait! There’s more. The Geneva Conventions Article 22:
Prisoners of war may be interned only in premises located on land and affording every guarantee of hygiene and healthfulness. Except in particular cases which are justified by the interest of the prisoners themselves, they shall not be interned in penitentiaries.
In December 2005 inmates stored the armory of their prison, which was run by Americans and not the Iraqis. The report states that Iraqi prisons are “overcrowded”. Other reports state that the prisons are patently unhygienic.
Geneva Conventions Article 25:
Prisoners of war shall be quartered under conditions as favourable as those for the forces of the Detaining Power who are billeted in the same area. The said conditions shall make allowance for the habits and customs of the prisoners and shall in no case be prejudicial to their health.
The foregoing provisions shall apply in particular to the dormitories of prisoners of war as regards both total surface and minimum cubic space, and the general installations, bedding and blankets.
From a report about what life is like inside Abu Ghraib:
The supplies to prisoners consist of underwear, towels, bed sheets, blanket, detergent powders, soap, shampoo, toothbrush and toothpaste. However, when we accessed the prison and queried how many persons received their dues, we found that less than 5% had received their dues. I personally, received none of the above-mentioned items.
Article 119:
Parties to the conflict shall communicate to each other the names of any prisoners of war who are detained until the end of the proceedings or until punishment has been completed.
Meanwhile the U.S. refuses to release statistics on detainees. By the way, they aren’t detainees, they are Prisoners of War.
Article 79:
In all places where there are prisoners of war, except in those where there are officers, the prisoners shall freely elect by secret ballot, every six months, and also in case of vacancies, prisoners’ representatives entrusted with representing them before the military authorities
I can find no record of any Iraqi POW’s holding such elections.
And so on and so forth. You might note that all of the above describes POW’s taken in Iraq and not Afghanistan. That’s because the Pentagon, Abu Gonzalez, John Yoo and other Torture Masters “determined” that people fighting in Afghanistan somehow do not qualify for the Geneva Conventions. I vehemently disagree with that legal analysis, as I’ve written about many times before.
Surely the people “detained” in Iraq are POW’s though, right? Department of Defense legal briefing from April 7, 2003:
Before describing our policies, I should note that in Operation Desert Storm in 1991, the United States and coalition partners detained 86,743 Iraqi prisoners of war. These Iraqi prisoners of war were given all the protections required by the Geneva conventions.
Our aims and acts are precisely the same in the current conflict. We are providing and will continue to provide captured Iraqi combatants with the protections of the Geneva conventions and other pertinent international laws.
What’s bitterly ironic is that the same legal briefing also noted this:
With respect to Iraqi violations of the Geneva conventions and other laws of war, the Iraqi regime is not complying with the Geneva conventions. Before turning to a summary of the Iraqi violations, I should note that in Operation Desert Storm, in 1991, the Iraqis mistreated U.S. and coalition prisoners and forces in numerous respects, including physical abuse and torture, forced propaganda statements, food deprivation, denial of International Committee of the Red Cross access until the day of repatriation, and much more.
The only atrocity that the Iraqi “regime” committed to POW’s that the United States has not is that the U.S. has allowed the Red Cross to visit all Iraqi POW’s. And I note that the Red Cross cited many examples of abuse against POW’s by American troops.
But I guess we shouldn’t be shocked by the U.S. committing war crimes in Iraq. After all, the administration doesn’t even oppose the mistreatment of Americans by Saddam Hussein:
The Bush administration is seeking to block a group of American troops who were tortured in Iraqi prisons during the Persian Gulf war in 1991 from collecting any of the hundreds of millions of dollars in frozen Iraqi assets they won last summer in a federal court ruling against the government of Saddam Hussein.
In a court challenge that the administration is winning so far but is not eager to publicize, administration lawyers have argued that Iraqi assets frozen in bank accounts in the United States are needed for Iraqi reconstruction and that the judgment won by the 17 former American prisoners should be overturned.
What makes you want to cry is that the judge who awarded the compensation to the American POW’s said he did so because it would “likely deter the torture of American POW’s by agencies of Iraq or other terrorist states in the future”.
Everyone is talking about the NSA surveillance program, which is certainly illegal. What’s ongoing in Iraq however rises to the level of war crimes under American law.
The question is, who shall prosecute the offenders when the prosecutors are allied with the offenders?
Cross-posted from Flogging the Simian
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Good diary. It seems we do not give one thought as to the GC when we are at war nowadays. It seems we have never fought this war with one ounce of thought to the GC. The sad thing is that they are doing this in my name and I do not like it. Thanks for getting into this. It needs to be repeated every day of this war as to what we are doing. Not only taking hostages but all that we do tha tis illegal.
to its “war on terror,” in which terror consists of opposing US policies.
It is quite likely that any given individual living in a country that has been invaded and occupied by a bestial horde of torturers and sexual predators will harbor some degree of opposition to that policy, therefore becoming terrorists.
Additionally, the Secretary of Defense of the United States has publicly referred to provisions of the GC as the “Geneva Privileges.” (the context was that the US did not wish to grant these privileges to individuals it kidnaps and tortures)
What some non-Americans, and international laws and conventions may view as rights, US views as privileges that only it can bestow or take away, like the right of other nations to self defense or to obtain or possess weapons.
You finally convinced me of what I knew all along. It’s the opposition to US policy that puts one at risk. I have subsequently surrendered the battle to change peoples’ views on those policies. I can only hope it will make my family safer.
do a poll, with the single question:
Has anything someone posted on a blog or message board ever caused you to change your mind?
My prediction is that I would be surprised if anyone said yes.
I doubt that many would admit to it. I’ve been speaking out and called more names than I can remember. As an example I had Democrats calling me a conspiracy theorist for my posting links to articles claiming the Niger documents were forgeries, back before it was cool to be against the war.
I’ve noticed a few who have taken a second look at the claimed court victories in the GWoT since some of us renegades kept screaming about them. I’m not claiming any single-handed victory but a few need to speak out before others will too.
From imaginary yellow cake in Niger to US crimes against humanity, people will call it a conspiracy theory or terrorist propaganda until they see it in the WaPo or the NYT – even though the same people decry the corporate media, they still only find things credible if they read them there. š
But change their minds? Whether the Niger yellow cake is real or not is not the point, the point is that what is never questioned is that possession of yellow cake, or weapons, or components thereof, is a privilege that can only be bestowed by US.
What is never challenged, and by challenged I mean making the Washington mall look like Caracas the day after the coup attempt – is whether the American public will tolerate the war crimes, even now that they are being published in their big fancy newspapers instead of little 4 page folded things sold on the streets of Karachi.
I don’t think that I, or anybody else, is likely to change anybody’s mind about these basic values.
I have various reactions to that although I agree with it.
If the first ones to notice problems don’t speak out then nothing will ever change. Many issues today were spurred by a few that built a movement as the issue was spread by individuals who care.
As more Democrats have seen their party leadership in a different light so will the Reps. By the day, more are dissillusioned with both parties and the system in general, which will lead to new acceptance of old claims.
Some of us speak out for others but the majority will not be enraged until it affects them personally. Right now it’s fine in some minds to prosecute alf/elf/peta the same as a/q but when it evolves to include recycling groups and the Humane Society, those folks will change their minds when prosecuted.
This story about taking innocent familes hostage is from 2003, IIRC, and seems to be timed now to condition the public to accepting more crimes against humanity.
…after all, it’s all done in the name of GWoT so that makes it acceptable, right?
definitely been “titrated up.” In my opinion, another example of Washington’s pathological overcaution.
After decades of dehumanizing a population, there is really no need to worry that your own subjects will suddenly be seized by a fit of Revolution-quality outrage to learn that their tax dollars are being spent in implementing the dehumanization in more up close and personal ways.
I wish I could be more optimistic that the inevitable correction would come from within, because I do believe that would be better for ordinary Americans, but I think the likelihood diminishes with every passing hour.
What of the possibility that the MSM is releasing this now to build public support for suspicion of innocent Iraqi families as the enemy? It’s a good way to build the mindset that all Iraqis are the enemy.
prevaling view for years?
Awareness doesn’t seem to have been an option
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If the first ones to notice problems don’t speak out then nothing will ever change. Many issues today were spurred by a few that built a movement as the issue was spread by individuals who care.
Dissent never won anyone a popularity contest.
Our nextdoor neighbor has a piece this week in the local weekly, titled The Power of Yes which you might find inspirational.
Unlike someone like me, who is better at shooting off my mouth than direct activism, she is to be seen on the steps of the Capitol w/ a meager 4 or 5 other protesters, or feeding the homeless, or organizing a letter writing campaign, or getting state legislators to come out to view a film on the death penalty. In a ‘Best of’ issue last Sept, the paper profiled her thusly:
Your voice is important; don’t let the nay-sayers silence it.
Hey, thanks for the inspiration. I don’t mind the average naysayers. I’m actually used to that now. I also understand that many will read comments and never acknowledge them but that’s fine, too. Some will find a small sparkle of a new discovery in the ideas. Others can walk away with a mental splinter that nags for removal.
My frustration is with the highly intelligent, experienced folks who continue to spin history in a way that’s appealing to Liberals but still avoids many truths of the past. That just doesn’t sound like progress.
So, I’m rethinking my idealism and wondering if I can find the compromise, without it giving way to apathy. Can I support the shined up version of US’ role in the past 40 years of GWoT when it excludes most of the US responsibility in it?
Thanks again for the link.
People do change their minds, and sometimes you can watch it happen.
The first time I encountered the American sense of rightness
(We do it because it is right. It is right because we do it. Though it is wrong for someone else to do it.)
was in Thomas Pynchon’s Gravity’s Rainbow.
It took me a while to see that he was right. But when I did, a lot of my frustrations during the Vietnam War days got cleared up. Americans did not care much about their commission of war atrocities then, either, including the illegal ones. I had felt like I had been banging my head against a brick wall. I was mistaken: It did not feel like a brick wall–it was a brick wall.
You never know when someone is going to wake up, but it happens.
To return to topic, thanks soj! for finding this.
My reason for blogging at all is the possibility that I might make someone think.
However, I do not think it is likely that a comment on a blog or message board will change someone’s mind.
I am not Thomas Pynchon š
Sometimes the thoughts of others on blogs have caused me to change my mind. Or, at least to clarify my thinking, or cause me to think in a different way. Or even think harder, jeeze.
Yours would be one of them, as sometimes with your comments at first it seemss like you are trying to drag a camel through the door, but the more one looks, listens and thinks about what you’re saying, you look again and realize the camel is really a small dog, or flower, (or smelly onion, that you can’t ignore).
Also, sometimes the change takes a while… people are not ready to hear things, so they disregard them until they are. Like with war – the Iraq one, anyway. Afghanistan, not so much.
That is a beautiful compliment, I am not sure I completely deserve it, sometimes I do not express what I mean, as in this case.
What I meant is that I do not think that it is likely that a “Republican,” someone who is a staunch imperialist, God speaks through Bush, manifest destiny, anyone who’s poor in America wants to be mainstream American thinker type is going to come visit BooMan Tribune and read, for instance, soj’s diary about US seizing families of people who oppose US atrocities, or Arcturus’ diary about lady gunmen dying of dehydration because they will be raped if they go outside in the dark to use the restroom, and say, whoa! well I’m not supporting this government any more, those are war crimes, and they are even shaming their own women!
Maybe if someone was in that gentle questioning stage, something one of us says might encourage that, and that alone could be enough to maybe save one life!
I see what you mean now (the perils of reading just the ‘recent comments’).
There are more Republicans questioning… just a bit… now, but no, most won’t. They can’t. It just won’t compute… plus, many of them are very well insulated against any stray or improper thoughts, because it can all be chalked up to the ‘liberal media’.
I was in a conversation once, with just such a republican as you describe… I mentioned something to her about some news report of Bush wrongdoing or some atrocity or something… and she laughed derisively and said “OH MY GOD… you get your news from the media??”
Puzzled, I asked her where she got her news from, and she said she didn’t need to get her news from the media or anyplace else… she just uses “common sense”. Oh, and “thinks for herself”, a favorite saying of the rant radio listeners. I’ve heard both of those things numerous times, in reply to any sort of attempt to actually insert even the scant facts we in the US are able to glean into the debate.
as that is what she meant. US is hardly the only country in the world with a corrupt government and sleazy politicians, but the unshakable trust and faith in those perceived to be “leaders” is if not uniquely American, pretty close. North Korea comes to mind.
Within the context of such faith, as with any religion, facts are not necessary, indeed they are undesirable, stumbling blocks set out by Satan (or whatever the preferred personification of evil may be) to tempt the devotee from the path of righteousness, patriotism and Resolve.
And the Republicans are even worse. ;>
it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for the truth to get into–
oh, never mind!
In reading the comments, my train of thought followed the same track.
It’s easier to pull a camel through a door than to try to push one through.