First, thanks for the link, BooMan…
Second, I didn’t start this bs fight, but I’m more than happy to defend myself…
So… if I must explain to the witless imbeciles that didn’t get the point of the Rush call (I know… “witless imbeciles” is redundant… but I used it for effect – because never was effect more sorely appropriate)… well, here ya are…
A large percentage of Rush’s listening base is composed of people that would self-identify as “evangelical Christains”. I grew up in a time when the “Moonies” were an organization that was feared – people were being seduced into the cult and turning their backs on their families. The Reverend Moon has called himself the returning messiah…
How do you think rabid proponents of the ten commandments, specifically “Thou shalt have no God before me,” feel about a Republican Party mouthpeice being funded by a cult leader?
Oh… by the fucking way… when I’m talking to Rush, I’m talking to about 3-4 million of his listeners at the same time. Most of his listeners are not what you would call card carrying democrats. In other words, I’m not spending my time preaching to the converted – instead, I’m doing missionary work amongst the heathens…
so keep up your petty and uninformed sniping all you want. maybe you’d like to start your own blog about the great work you are doing to further progressive causes.
In the mean time, I’m gonna keep on keeping on…
Rev Moon’s organizations have some of the highest funded and controversial faith based education programs, aren’t they?
Thanks for the watchdog oversight…instead of dittoheads they really should be named for the colon or something.
That is a great question… I do know, however, that Moon is responsible for about 2 billion dollars of conservative funding… he bailed out Jerry Falwell’s Liberty University, for example…
I’m fairly sure he is. I ran into that doing research on the faith based funding for nonprofits in education and it really pissed me off. I mentioned it to a local Evangelical pastor who was a major Bush supporter. He’s not even a pastor right now. He took a break to rethink his trusts and where he placed them. He’ll be back.
I think the Moonies were doing a lot of sex-ed in the schools and it was odd because of the kinky ritual that was part of Moon’s matrimonial ceremonies way back when.
Yeah, but Limbaugh still steamrolled you. Missionary work is great, but it’s best if done effectively.
And you think the ownership of the Washington Times is news to Limbaugh’s listeners, and you really think they care? You sound like a witless imbecile to me.
I’m giving you a 2 for that comment. The next time you want to write that someone sounds like a witless imbecile, please remember that the main rule around here is “don’t be a dick”.
I gave Stark a 2 back on the original thread for calling people who disagreed with Booman’s assessment witless imbeciles. Look at the diary here and tell me who used witless imbecile first. Your warning to Arminius is misplaced.
I don’t think that “he did it first!” is much of a reason to be unpleasant. I simply wanted to tell the person who posted the comment why I gave them the rating. It wasn’t a commentary on anything that came before or after.
Why don’t you just say I’m immature. That’s what you mean don’t you?
All I’m saying is that Stark comes in here and posts a diary with insults on it and you give a warning to someone who uses his own words to take offense and you give a warning to the person who was attacked.
I’m sure you’ll like my comment below. Warn away.
Well, every community has little policemen like you around. I thought his “diary” was offensive and deserved some ridicule, but I don’t use the ratings system for that purpose.
He first posted the “diary” as a response to BooMan’s thread from a day or two ago, and then reposted it as a diary to make sure everybody would see him calling lots of people in this group “witless imbeciles.” That is not civilized behavior.
And the self-regarding diary is ridiculous on the substance. It may be news to Mike Stark that the moonies run the Washington Times, but his assumption that “millions” of Limbaugh listeners are going to find that news, or will care about it, is truly puerile. It’s also a red herring, because it’s well understood in Washington that the moonies don’t exercise direct editorial control over the Washington Times, which is a fairly solid paper for a right-wing rag.
Stark wants everybody to kiss his feet because he managed to get himself humiliated on the Limbaugh show, and then he went ballistic and highly insulting when almost everybody questioned the so-called triumph. It’s just silliness. I listened to the tape, and I’d bet anything not one mind was moved. Instead, Stark got to play alan colmes (small type the way Franken does it). Pretty beefy there, Mike.
And sorry, but I don’t think I’m a “dick” for directing a little sarcasm at this “diary.” In contrast, I think your downrating of me arguably meets that definition.
I’m with you Arminius.
This diary doesn’t belong here at BT
It’s better suited for the “other” place.
I gave you a counter warning 4.
Hi Mike. First time commenter. Long time listener/reader. I missed people criticizing your performance on Rush. I’m sure I’m make my way to it.
I caught your spot through a link. I think you did about as good as could be expected in a platform like that. It is pretty hard to effectively debate anyone when you are given 30 seconds against their 4 hours to talk. You pick your spots well and do your best. What could be wrong with that. You are the only voice of reason I heard in the Republican echo chamber this week — not that I listen much.
Onward.
You got yourself on the air and were well informed and he freaked and couldn’t get you off the air fast enough. We all do what we can do and what we are good at.
Rung Rush’s bell. Keep doing what your doing, if one person wakes up as a result you’ve done well.
Hey Asshole,
You’ll get real far around here by calling people witless imbeciles.
I’ve heard a couple of your calls to rush on his program before. This one wasn’t one of your better ones. Instead of explaing why their perception was wrong, you decide to call them names instead. Makes me think you’re better suited to wingnut radio afterall.
So how ’bout rule number one? Does anyone think that the object of your (idiotic and unfounded) derision might read it?
Rush, as you know, resorted to calling me “a fool”. And you are honestly trying to tell me that he’s won the argument? Fucking please.
As I said, millions of wingnuts are listening to his tripe. It isn’t widely known – especially by evangelicals – that the Moonies own the Washington Times… If just one pastor was listening… perhaps somewhere in rural Ohio… well, this is what might happen:
And aside from all of that, Rush spent at least one minute on Mike rage – that was one minute he wasn’t focused on Harry Reid or Howard Dean…
So I stand by what I said – there are some witless imbeciles ’round these parts…
first, they completely ignored or failed to consider that constructive criticism is always more welcome that pointless jabs. Go take a look at the original Kos diary if you are interested in seeing that dynamic play out. Not everyone agrees that this was a spectacular call – I’m OK with that and noted their opinions without comment… here, though… at the “don’t be a dick” place, we find dicks galore. And some people defend the dicks… I guess that makes you doubly dickish.
and second, as I’ve pointed out several times now, they are just wrong on the merits. It was a great call – the Moonie connection is a soft spot in the Republican machine’s armor – and you can tell by the way Rush cried like a stuck pig when I brought it up…
and as far as anyone that says that Rush is right – that it’s the source of the data that matters, not what paper it appeared in… you are witless again.
The CRP compiled data and then the Washoington Times cherry-picked the data to take a cheap shot at Democrats… That was editorial content disguised as news.
I could go on and on about the gratuitous attacks and pointless arguments made by the WI’s… instead, I’ll keep working behind enemy lines. I’m not gonna waste anymore time watching my back while I’m fighting the real enemy.
You keep wasting your time with Rush, and wasting ours with these types of attacks on your own.
The majority of us will be in the streets confronting the freaks face to face. Not from the safety of a telephone.
Moonies, schmoonies. The easily offended need to rise above their thin skins.
Yeah folks, some ideas are better than others. Not all ideas have value. Not even religious ones.