Since September 11, many Americans have rediscovered the virtues of manliness in office. The Democrats have a job to do if they’re to challenge the “daddy party” in this respect. -Jay Nordlinger, Sept. 17, 2004, Wall Street Journal.
I don’t like Joe Klein. I might enjoy sipping a martini and having a cocktail weinie while Joe plied me with inside baseball stories on the Washington elite. But, deep down, I’d be suppressing an urge to kick his ass. Klein has a new book out called, Politics Lost: How American Democracy Was Trivialized by People Who Think You’re Stupid. I haven’t read it, and I don’t plan on reading it. But, I just got done reading Thomas Frank’s merciless review of it in the New York Observer. And it reminded me of why I don’t like Klein. It also reminded me of why I don’t like Howard Fineman, or Chris Matthews, or any number of guys of a certain age that pass for sage observers of American politics.
Frank gets right to the heart of it, here:
The second fixed idea in Mr. Klein’s mental universe is a persistent disdain for the liberal wing of the Democratic Party. This, too, is common sense for certain self-designated spokesmen of the 60’s generation (remember the annoying “rebel capitalist” meme of the late 90’s, in which the libertarian New Economy was supposed to be the final flowering of the counterculture?), and Mr. Klein duly assails “the mopey left” with their “down-on-America pessimism.” He laughs off “state-run health care” as a “vegetarian notion” and, as he has done in his other books, heaps contempt on traditional liberalism—on the economic issues like education, wages and Social Security that once linked the Democratic Party to its working-class base. Economic liberalism, Mr. Klein yawns, is boring stuff—“jobs, health-care, and blah-blah-blah,” is how he summarizes it at one point—pure boilerplate platitude that only a consultant could love.
…Liberalism sucks, authenticity rocks:
…This makes for a truly bizarre series of conclusions, the first and most important of which is the courageousness of centrism. Up until now, you have probably thought that when you saw Democrats dumping their traditional principles in order to run pallid, market-tested campaigns appealing to swing voters with rhetoric borrowed from the G.O.P., they were doing so because they had been listening to consultants, pollsters, focus groups and so on. Well—according to Mr. Klein, you have it precisely backwards. In Joe’s world, the consultants and the pollsters and even the money are all on the other side, forever driving the cowardly politicians to the partisan extremes. Consultants on the Democratic side seem always to turn out to be liberals in Mr. Klein’s telling, and liberalism itself is usually the sad result of a candidate listening to consultants. What the Democratic Party is in need of is what Mr. Klein calls a “radical middle” that talks truth rather than liberal platitude.
Now, I could get all upset about Klein’s analysis of consulting and its influence. But, that’s not what really irks me. What irks me is this idea that liberals are boring, anti-American, wussie-boys. We get this from a plethora of men in the punditocracy…most of them are nominal or reformed Democrats.
From Tweety:
MCMAHON: Chris, there are so many bills sitting up in committees, bottled up because Republicans won‘t let Democrats bring them to a vote. There are bills that would make health insurance more available and more affordable, that would control health care costs, that would do all kinds of things, but Republicans won‘t let us.
MATTHEWS: You know what I think? It‘s your reputation as the mommy party that hangs in there, even when you blow it. You‘re still the mommy you go to when you have a problem.
O‘BEIRNE: They love their mothers.
MATTHEWS: Your nose is running, you know.
MCMAHON: I love my mother, don‘t you love your mother, Chris?
MATTHEWS: How many shots do you have? Ask any guy if they know what shots the kids have had, right? They have no idea. Anyway thank you, Steve McMahon, happy St. Patrick‘s Day to both of you. Kate O‘Beirne, Katie O‘Beirne.
From Howard Fineman:
The first salvo came the other week, when Bush and Cheney asserted that the war in Iraq was in fact being won (just read the bullet points). And now they have the Democrats in their gun sights, as the Mommy Party of “cut and run,” confusion and weakness in the face of global evil.
It’s easy to be bored by bread and butter issues when you make six figures, have health care, and send your kids to private schools and universities. Dismissing those issues as ‘mommy issues’ from a defunct ‘mommy party’ and then calling centrism ‘courageous’ and ‘radical’ is just obnoxious. If these assholes ever stopped to consider the real-world ramifications of their centrist consensus that it is morally acceptable to leave 45 million people without access to preventative care, they might just realize their dismissiveness goes beyond obnoxiousness and trends toward pure evil.
But, they won’t think about that until something happens to someone they know and love and it touches their calloused-over hearts. In the meantime, they will go on manufacturing consensus and touting the courage of centrists like Joe Lieberman and John McCain…men, both of whom, are to the right of Barry Goldwater and approaching Attila the Hun.
Joe Klein deserves a knuckle sandwich for writing a book called How American Democracy Was Trivialized by People Who Think You’re Stupid. No one is more responsible for trivializing politics and the seriousness of bland centrism on poor American lives, than Joe Klein. Klein thinks we’re stupid….stupid enough to stay asleep while he and Fineman and Matthews and the rest of them sing us a lullaby about Republican manliness and the ‘vegetarian’ concept of a national health care system.
You are da MAN Boo. First thing I’ve read from you in a while that really resonates. 100% right on. I can’t stand that mealy-looking beard of his, either.
You coming on May 6th?
I plan on being there, but don’t let me forget.
Interesting comments from a wussy who refused to acknowledge his authorship of an earlier book.
Right on Boo! What kind of blinders prevent these ‘he-men’ from seeing how much they disgust women?
is based on an outmoded picture of what a “father” is — the stern yet loving provider for the stay-at-home mother and 2.5 kids — the authority figure both feared (“Wait till your father gets home!”) and revered. The man who’ll go over and punch out the dad of the bully who’s terrorizing you at school. The man who comes home from work and buries his face in the newspaper, who has more important things to worry about than hearing about his kids’ days.
But if people look at who really keeps the family going, more often than not it’s the mother. While the “Daddy” is off working, many times long hours making them an “absent father”, the mother is there to do the caregiving, provide the discipline when necessary, get the kids to school, activities, appointments and such, take care of the bills and the budget, and all the other big and little details to keep the family going. We’re waaaay past the days of June Cleaver in pearls and housedress, past the days where the man brought home the money and the woman ran right out and spent it on a new dress or pair of shoes.
And if you look at most single parent families, they’re headed up by either a mother or other female figure (like a grandmother). Yes, this is decried by most conservative talking heads, but if you look closer, most of the evils chalked up to “fatherless homes” can be probably attributed more to socioeconomic reasons. (I grew up from the age of 11 without a father, but because we were a middle class family, I probably had it better than if I was living in the projects.)
If people really looked at what mothers really do these days, they might realize that we do need a “Mother” party…but not the weak, powerless “mommies” of the 1950s sitcoms, but the powerful women of today who know what’s really important to keep the family (and country) moving…my own mother would’ve done a hell of a lot better with the Katrina cleanup than this misAdministration has, that’s for damn sure…
Best comment of the week, Cali Scribe. I tried to give it an ‘8’.
Joe Klein sucks, pure and simple.
I am ever so tired of the he-man bullshit, it’s homophobic, misogynistic and just plain dopey… and most importantly that thinking has gotten us into the total mess we are in today.
The people who play up this macho bullshit usually were the biggest weenies as kids.
It’s all a belated Stockholm syndrome — identifying with the bullies who used to steal your lunch money.
of a Dear Abby letter (and response) from about a week or so ago:
DEAR ABBY: My husband, “Ron,” and I are at odds over parenting our 7-year-old son, “Brett.” My husband is very domestic. He cooks like a world-class chef and does more housework than any man I know of.
I have read Dr. James Dobson’s books on family. He clearly states that a father should be the manly role model for the son, to prevent the son from being homosexual. I’m concerned that Brett will learn feminine ways from my husband and turn out to be gay. How can I convince Ron that he needs to teach Brett the more manly things in life? — WORRIED MOM IN FLORIDA
DEAR WORRIED MOM: From my perspective, you don’t need to change a thing. With all due respect to Dr. Dobson, your husband is already a manly role model to your son. He is teaching the boy important survival skills that will be invaluable when he is older. With luck, your son will turn out to be every bit the man — and father — that your husband is.
The fact that this woman is reading that awful book, is all I need to know! This is where many ppl get misleading lies about society.
She might have added that is was unlikely that her son’s sexuality would turn on his father acts, one way or the other.
In my mind anyway there are two archetypes at work: there’s the “manly protector of the family” projection that the scared little weenie boys like to claim. They reject the Mom as “soft” or feminine. ( and She needs the man to protect her)and try to leverage the idea that She is “weak” and “He” is strong. This gets lots of mileage.
So where does Mom have the power?
When little junior is tough-guy playing cops and robbers and hits someone with a stick she can call him out and put him back in his place.
“Georgie! Put down that firecracker and get in here!”(Whack)!Waaah Im sorry Mom…
We have a bunch of little boys running around with no supervision right now “acting out”.
Their “Mom” needs to give em a good hard smack.
If She gives up that role, junior will become a deliquent.
You nailed it, Booman. I think a big (but not the only)problem with these guys is the money they make. Once you get into the mid to high six figures there are a lot of things you stop worrying about, and you start wondering why anybody else would bother to worry about them. Clinton never forgot, which is one reason why the Right hated him so much. A lot of his aides, however, seem to have forgotten.
Those of us who still have roots in where we came from and have relatives who are uninsured because they can’t afford it, have not forgotten.
Yes you stop worrying about Social Security and you start running deficits because your rich kids will be ok and you don’t need Social Security to survive when you retire. Most people in this country are not hungry day to day but short of a miracle they will never retire and they’ll never have the money to send their kids to college. No the pundits don’t worry about it and bush and his cronies are generations removed from any real world worries so the problems of the truly average person are considered weakness and failure.
Fuck yeah.
You hold him, I’ll hit him.
Then we’ll switch.
I know a friend who’s a jeweler: we can make earrings out of his teeth, and give them to our loved ones.
Curiously, BooMan, you decry the “he-mannism” of said pundits, and yet want both to “kick Klein’s ass” and feed him a “knuckle sandwich”.
A useful illustration of the problem of self identification which has hounded the liberal left since the “mommys” took over. The left has become completely reactionary, rather than progressive, as it constantly misidentifies itself.
The Center must be obtained. There is no other place to go if you truly want to defeat the forces of Republican evil.
Not the same tired center but a newly revived center, free from liberal and conservative dogma.
Its the Left and the Right that are dead tired at this point in time. Not the Center of Feingold, nor the center of Warner, nor the center of Casey Jr.
These are new and different constructs. Dont make the mistake of misidentifying and mislabeling. You will kill the only viable way out of the wilderness…
Oh, yeah. As a real “Mommy,” BooMan should have said, he wanted to “spank his butt,” or “slap him silly.” That’s what my Mom would have said.
Now. Will you kindly define “The Center”? Would that be where the Center was when Klein claims that Truman was a centrist? Let’s go there and have a Democratic candidate that proclaims our need for expanded public health care, an increase in the minimum wage, more equity between the have’s and have-not’s. Whoa, wait a minute — that sounds like liberal dogma.
Or do you mean the current “Center,” you know, the one that’s to the right of Ronald Reagan?
I believe we’re going to have to pull hard from the left to even find a true center again.
Russ Feingold
The Left DOES need to pull hard but the pulling needs to be first from its innards in order to change its outards, so to speak.
See my Centerist Manifesto diary for more details, if you care to.
Thanks for the comment.
“Daddyism” = Authoritarianism.
“Mommyism” = Democracy
Dictatorship or representative democracy; it’s a simple as that.
J Klein was on a local radio show this morning (Forum with M Krasne). Boy was he great! His wisdom was only overshadowed by the beauty of his voice and manner.
He explained about turnips and why politicians are losers because they listen to people like him. He made a great point about how lying about not authoring Primary Colors was different than lying to keep that lie a secret.
Also, I didn’t know that he was the one who produced the great Clinton-Gingrich Fight of the Century, having recognized, before they had heard of each other, that the forces of history would bring these two men together in an epic battle for the hearts of all free men.
What a great fucking man of history!
Not all of the surviving “60’s generation” are full of themselves numbskulls.
That’s my public service announcement for the day. We return you to your regular program.
go read the Thomas Frank put-down on Klein, the whole thing. It’s extraordinary writing and will rev you up like a shot of expresso.
Coming here afterwards and reading your take, BooMan, was like a double shot. Thanks.
Beautiful, man…
cross-posted at Daily Kos.
i’ve always maintained i’d rather live in a nanny-state than a police-state.