The Senate Intelligence Committee endorsed the confirmation of General Michael Hayden to be the next Director of Central Intelligence by a 12-3 vote. Evan Bayh, Ron Wyden, and Russ Feingold dissented. A lot of people are extremely upset by this vote; thereisnospoon even called it treason. I have a different view. Part of my reasoning is purely pragmatic. Porter Goss’s last day on the job is Friday. It would be problematic for the position of Director to remain unfilled for any significant amount of time, and the sooner someone can come in and rid the place of the Gosslings, the better. Still, filling the position is not so urgent that we should entrust the job to an unqualified or otherwise bad candidate. The nomination of Hayden has brought forth several concerns.
Some are discomforted that Hayden is a member of the military. This concern is misplaced, in my opinion. Several former Directors have been military men, and the Deputy Directors are usually military men. The CIA is a paramilitary organization (among other things) and there is no reason to preclude military people from running the organization. It is well known that there has been tremendous friction during the Bush era between the Pentagon and the CIA and State Department over intelligence. But Hayden (working at the NSA) was as opposed to the Pentagon’s intelligence work as anyone else. He also butted heads with Rumsfeld (when he was Deputy DNI). Here’s how he put it in the confirmation hearings.
LEVIN: But there’s been press reports that you had some disagreements with Secretary Rumsfeld and Undersecretary Cambone with respect to the reform legislation that we were looking at relating to DNI and other intelligence-related matters.
Can you tell us whether or not that is accurate; there were disagreements between you and the defense secretary? Because some people say you’re just going to be the instrument of the defense secretary. And if those reports are right, this would be an example where you disagree with the defense secretary, who — after all, you wear a uniform and he is the secretary of defense. Are those reports accurate?
HAYDEN: Sir, let me recharacterize them.
The secretary and I did discuss this. I think it’s what diplomats would call that frank and wide-ranging exchange of views…
Hayden goes on to give a diplomatic answer, but the point for me is that he is not afraid to stick up to and oppose Rumsfeld. He is not Rumsfeld’s man. And if the CIA has a Director that opposes the methodology of Rumsfeld’s minions and will vigorously engage in a ‘frank and wide-ranging exchange of views’ with them, then the CIA will not be demoralized to have a military man as Director.
When it comes to the mismangement of intelligence in the lead up to the Iraq War, Hayden is clear that the fault lies not at the CIA but in the Pentagon and (although he never says it directly) with the policy makers that kept demanding reporting on alleged ties between al-qaeda and Iraq. We can see this in a remarkable exchange between Senator Carl Levin and Hayden during the hearings.
LEVIN: An independent review for the CIA, conducted by a panel led by Richard Kerr, former deputy director of the CIA, said the following — and this relates to the intelligence prior to the Iraq war — “Requests for reporting and analysis of Iraq’s links to Al Qaida were steady and heavy in the period leading up to the war, creating significant pressure on the intelligence community to find evidence that supported a connection.”
Do you agree with Mr. Kerr?
HAYDEN: Sir, I — as director of NSA, we did have a series of inquiries about this potential connection between Al Qaida and the Iraqi government. Yes, sir.
LEVIN: Now, prior to the war, the undersecretary of defense for policy, Mr. Feith, established an intelligence analysis cell within his policy office at the Defense Department.
LEVIN: While the intelligence community was consistently dubious about links between Iraq and Al Qaida, Mr. Feith produced an alternative analysis, asserting that there was a strong connection.
Were you comfortable with Mr. Feith’s office’s approach to intelligence analysis?
HAYDEN: No, sir, I wasn’t. I wasn’t aware of a lot of the activity going on, you know, when it was contemporaneous with running up to the war. No, sir, I wasn’t comfortable.
LEVIN: In our meeting in our office, you indicated — well, what were you uncomfortable about? Let me…
HAYDEN: Well, there were a couple of things. And thank you for the opportunity to elaborate, because these aren’t simple issues.
As I tried to say in my statement, there are a lot of things that animate and inform a policy-maker’s judgment, and intelligence is one of them, and, you know, world view, and there are a whole bunch of other things that are very legitimate.
The role of intelligence, I try to say it here by metaphor because it’s the best way I can describe it, is you’ve got to draw the left- and the right-hand boundaries. The tether to your analysis can’t be so long, so stretched that it gets out of those left- and right-hand boundaries.
Now, with regard to this particular case, it is possible, Senator, if you want to drill down on an issue and just get laser beam focused, and exhaust every possible — every possible ounce of evidence, you can build up a pretty strong body of data, right? But you have to know what you’re doing, all right?
I got three great kids, but if you tell me go out and find all the bad things they’ve done, Hayden, I can build you a pretty good dossier, and you’d think they were pretty bad people, because that was I was looking for and that’s what I’d build up.
That would be very wrong. That would be inaccurate. That would be misleading.
It’s one thing to drill down, and it’s legitimate to drill down. And that was a real big and real important question. But at the end of the day, when you draw your analysis, you have to recognize that you’ve really laser beam focused on one particular data set. And you have to put that factor into the equation before you start drawing macro judgments.
LEVIN: You in my office discussed, I think, a very interesting approach, which is the difference between starting with a conclusion and trying to prove it and instead starting with digging into all the facts and seeing where they take you.
Would you just describe for us that difference and why you feel, I think, that that related to the difference between what intelligence should be and what some people were doing, including that Feith office.
HAYDEN: Yes, sir. And I actually think I prefaced that with both of these are legitimate forms of reasoning, that you’ve got deductive — and the product of, you know, 18 years of Catholic education, I know a lot about deductive reasoning here.
HAYDEN: There’s an approach to the world in which you begin with, first, principles and then you work your way down the specifics.
And then there’s an inductive approach to the world in which you start out there with all the data and work yourself up to general principles. They are both legitimate. But the only one I’m allowed to do is induction.
LEVIN: Allowed to do as an intelligence…
HAYDEN: As an intelligence officer is induction.
And so, now, what happens when induction meets deduction, Senator? Well, that’s my left- and right-hand boundaries metaphor.
LEVIN: Now, I believe that you actually placed a disclaimer on NSA reporting relative to any links between Al Qaida and Saddam Hussein. And it was apparently following the repeated inquiries from the Feith office. Would you just tell us what that disclaimer was?
HAYDEN: Yes, sir.
SIGINT neither confirms nor denies — and let me stop at that point in the sentence so we can stay safely on the side of unclassified.
SIGINT neither confirms nor denies, and then we finished the sentence based upon the question that was asked. And then we provided the data, sir.
From that exchange it is clear that Hayden understands how to do intelligence work and that he was as fed up with the Office of Special Plans as anyone.
Having said all this, there still remains the problem of Hayden’s willingness to implement illegal warrantless wiretapping of American citizens during his time at the NSA. I would have opposed his confirmation on those grounds, just as Russ Feingold did. But, that battle is really a battle between the administration and Congress. Hayden’s confirmation hearings were really not the proper forum for hashing those constitutional issues out. Rather than hold Hayden hostage until the administration comes clean, Congress should use the appropriations process, or some other avenue to demand accountability. As things stand now, we simply don’t have enough facts to hold up Hayden’s confirmation and the consequence would be to leave the CIA adrift.
We may discover that Hayden deserves to be in jail rather than heading up a major government agency. But, we don’t have the luxury (or the votes) to stop him.
So, while I am not happy with his selection, I do not think he will demoralize the CIA because of his connections to the rival Pentagon, I do not think he will be beholden to Rumsfeld, I do think he understands how to do intelligence work, and I am confident that he will stick up for his views and his employees in interagency debates.
The real destruction Hayden will do has nothing to do with his personal idiosyncracies. The real damage is coming from Negroponte, who seems intent on stripping the CIA of its responsibilities for analysis and cherry-picking all the talent out of Langley for his operation. Ultimately, there is nothing any DCI can do to restore morale over the fact that the DNI is now the man with the responsibility for briefing the President. But, on the operations end of the agency, Hayden should be seen as an ally, not as some proxy for Rumsfeld.
also available in orange.
Or…
Hayden: Maybe WORSE
We shall see.
He represents to me a kinder, gentler techno-fascism.
YOU know…where they figure out what you are thinking before even YOU know it through the patterns of your phone calls and web surfing and TV watching and then take…appropriate steps…to disengage you from your mistaken ideas.
Like waterboarding or Prozac-ing or disappearing or Guatanamo-ing or…oh well…
YOU know.
Stuff.
While the good General goes back to his nice house to hang with the little wife and the kiddies.
Clean hands and a dirty head.
Beware generals who look and act like small town bankers.
They didn’t get there by being nice little boys.
BET on it.
AG
Josef Mengele’s victims still go on about how “nice” he was in person: Hayden’s little PR show isn’t convincing me of anything.
The man swore an oath to God and Country to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and now wants us to pat him on the back and promote him for violating that very same oath.
He’s just another rightard traitor, and the CIA is better off without him.
I can’t argue with that. We’ve fallen a long way in 6 years. It was a stab in the eye to appoint this guy.
Hayden was asked at the hearing whether water-boarding is legal. He responded that he wanted to answer that in closed session. What more does one need to know about him?
Booman, your position is what I take Levin’s position to be: Hayden can be counted upon to continue to be at least somewhat effective at fighting turf battles within the Pentagon.
But respecting human rights? Upholding the law? Keeping Congress informed? Telling the truth? Those take less precedence than maneuvering against Rumsfeld?
Everybody is all up in arms about the NSA spying but the DOD I think we may all find out in the end has cornered even more of the spying on Americans market. They can do so with fewer restrictions because they are doing it defending the country. I find that really really creepy! All of his interconnectedness and knowledge concerning the DOD to the NSA and now the CIA along with the existing political climate really really gives me the damn creeps.
He is military, but not exactly a field general. I don’t know. I don’t really worry about his allegiance to the Pentagon. I don’t think he is going in there to do anything but bolster the CIA’s role in clandestine operations while overseeing the gutting of the Directorate of Intelligence. And that is just what Bush and Cheney want. Any director would have to do that.
As for the Pentagon taking on more responsibility for covert operations? You bet. Under that leadership of reckless cowboys? Yeah, it’s scary beyond belief. They’re out there infiltrating Quaker groups. They’re probably drinking liberally and going to Yearly Kos.
That’s hilarious to think about. I’m bummed I can’t fit it into my schedule or my budget right now. I just want to go so I can throw some cream pies around, it would be a scream. It could be kind of fun also to see my DOD file someday and see a photo of me displaying violent tendencies. You judge beltway politics and personality so well, I will work on mellowing out how creepy the guy causes me to feel. He isn’t exactly a smooth operator huh? Yeah, he lacks a certain ability to grease people well….perhaps he really is only Mini-Me.
this is why America is a declining empire. We accept so much, settle for so little. The guy TELLS us that he stood up to Rumsfield, so we take him at his word. He’s the architect of a massive expansion of the gov’t intruding into civilians’ lives, but he promises to be … I don’t know, “aware” of where the lines are drawn. Hell, that’s good enough for us. THE MAN HAS NO IDEA WHAT THE 4TH AMENDMENT PROMISES … oh well.
Look at him. Listen to him. He’s another in a long line of unremarkable looking bureaucrats demonstrating the banality of evil.
Nope, nothing to worry about. After all, he wouldn’t LIE (none of the Bushies ever LIE) in order to get this post, would he?
that’s all true except for the part about him butting heads with Rumsfeld. That is not some fake story.
BooMan
Only in comparison to Porter Goss is this guy an improvement.
I frankly have deep distrust about anyone Bush appoints for any position in Government, much less for CIA Director.
I agree completely.
I think it’s pretty clear to everyone here that there’s virtually no chance that this administration and/or congress will appoint a DCI that is acceptable to those of us who want a rational intel community that will acquire accurate information and deploy that info wisely and lawfully.
Having said that however, I see that we still have a “lesser of two evils” problem,and with this in mind I have to say that despite his apparent willingness to violate the law, Hayden has one thing in his favor that I regard as important. He is not a neocon!
I think Hayden will take orders from Negroponte,and, asodious a monster as Negroponte is, he’snot a neocon either.
The fact that Hayden will likely not take orders from Cheney or Rumsfeld is a step in the right direction, and a further sign that the neocons are being pushed out of power.
Hayden taking orders from “Death Squad” Negroponte doesn’t in any way make Hayden more palatable. Neocons like Feith and Cambone are evil bumblers; Negroponte’s evil is deliberate.
I emphatically disagree with your assessment of Feith and Cambone, (and presumably the rest of the neocon cabal to which they belong), as being bumblers. I see all the so-called “failures” that have resulted from their policies and actions in Iraq and elswhere as deliberate acts designed to prevent peace and stability from manifesting. In short, I see the true goal of the neocons in Iraq as precisely the chaos and widening sphere of conflict that is the current reality.
I totally agree with you about the murderous Negroponte. As far as I’m concerned burning at the stake would be almost too kind a punishment for him, so terrible are his crimes against humanity. But, IMHO, Cheney and his ensemble of deranged lunatics are far more dangerous, and capable of far more destruction than Negroponte and the gang that supports him.
Hence my “lesser of two evils” argument. It is of course regrettable that the choices avaliable to us right now are so bad, but if the neocons grip on power can be loosened enough to prevent them from attacking Iran I see this as a good thing, and anyone appointed to high office who does not take orders from Cheney or the Pentagon is, IMHO, a step toward accomplishing that goal.
I have a rather unnerving feeling that the new DNI, Negroponte has got ambitions of becoming the new J.Edgar Hoover of intelligence. If you look at the way the Office of National Intelligence is organised and the way the office are vacuuming the CIA for talented analysts stripping the CIA of its second pillar, its analytical competence, it seems to me as if the ONI is not going to be only an administrative/coordinating unit, but also part an intelligence unit in its own right. This will only add new friction to the existing turf wars between the agencies within the security/intelligence community and complicate the task of cleaning up the mess.
I’m way past upset, I am to the point of giving up completely. The waterboard answer was so far beyond the pale he should be imprisoned just for maintaining that the President is above the law. This man is anathema to functioning democracy. No he isn’t as bad as Negroponte or a handful of others like Cheney, but have we really reached the point where that is the standard?
Only 3 democrats voted against him in committee. You think we should work to elect Democrats so they can regain majorities and hold investigations next year? There clearly aren’t going to be any investigations, regardless of how large a majority we help them attain. They fear Bush just as much at 29% as they did when he was over 80%. Dems aren’t going to grow spines or gain principles just because a few more people vote for them.
“Our” party is just as horrible as their party. If our leaders really believed in the values that they claim to, our country wouldn’t be anywhere near as screwed up. Selfish whores, the lot of them.
That’s Greenwald’s take on things too but I don’t fully agree. This vote was unwinnable anyway and, as I said, it was the wrong forum for settling the Constitutional Crisis over the NSA.
I’ll give Bush credit for creating a situation of crisis at the CIA that trumps our interest in investigating the NSA. I don’t take this as evidence that a Democratic Congress will forego oversight and hearings and subpoenas and a more assertive expression of their powers. I take it as a prudent decision not to cause a prolonged fight that would leave the CIA adrift and not to severely alienate the new DCI, since they couldn’t stop him anyway.
It’s frustrating. I admit that. But I don’t see it as some massive betrayal or dereliction. If there has been a massive betrayal and dereliction it occurred in response to Feingold’s censure motion. And a new Democratic Congress, with John Conyers at Judiciary is not going to be timid.
I read Greenwald earlier and tried not to repeat what he said. As for unwinnable, who wants to support people who only fight when they are guaranteed a victory?
As for Conyers, I would be willing to bet $100 that he never gets the chair of Judiciary. House leadership will give it to someone else to keep Conyers from making waves.
If there has been a massive betrayal and dereliction it occurred in response to Feingold’s censure motion.
I agree with this, by the way, censure was the biggest of dozens of betrayals in the last few years. Hayden is merely the latest. I have felt like this for a long time, I’m tired of waiting for more betrayals. The last straw isn’t as big as many of the previous straws, but eventually there has to be a last. Democratic party leaders have done nothing to deserve further faith.
Can his behind-closed-doors response be relayed to Cheney/Rumsfeld?
If not, then there’s at least a 1% chance that his answer would be that he finds it illegal. To admit that point in this public hearing would pit him directly against the bastards, no?
He seems savvy, at least.
Try reviewing his hearing with an eye for how Rumsfeld/Cheney would see it, how they could and would hold what he says against him.
He’s not just speaking to convince the public audience…
Mind you, I could be wrong, but I do nto like the man. I think he has a lot of excess baggage that just does not suit me. He was the responsible person in charge while NSA broke the law. I hold him and others responsible for that. I can see things that maybe you might be right on, Booman. I want more proof of things. I want to hear more from him in questioning. I htink he is streaching the truth to suit himself and others, mainly Negroponte…another one I can not stand. I judge ppl by the company they keep too…:o)
I frankly would like to know how he got his medals.
his history
I also think he needs to retire from the AF to do this job. This takes the stars off his shoulders so he can function adequately and he can get rummy out of the picture of pressure and directions–orders and such.
All I get out of your rant is-“don’t go to sleep cause when you wake-up the pods will have changed you!”
So, take this as a big hard slap in you face. Maye it will wake you up- Cause if it doesn,t you will find yourself pretty alone. “problematic fror the position to be unfilled…
Problematic ny ass! That pig in the whitehouse will appoint him the second the congress is out of town for a vacation! So that takes care of that rediculous statement!
Moving on– being in the military not important- Are you out of your mind- being in the military gave this bastard the tools and epuipment he needed to build the God damned data base , fool!If I am being to nasty, just keep in mind that all I am trying to do is heep you awake so that the pod people don’t get you!
So now we get to the final straw so to say– Thus, who gives a crap whether or not hayden is qualified. He is simply a good Nazi and he is willing to take the bullet for his fuhrer.He will perform Illegal acts while he knows full well that these acts are illegal!
There are more items in your screed but I will skip disecting them and just comment quickly on your conclusion. First of all- to disclain the innocence of hayden is a grotesque mockery if the word – truth! You know it. Secondly, ally my ass.
So, shame on you. deep deep shame. Giving the WH stooge a bye on this is a straight disgrace. Your e-mails appear to show the wat an I did say that I was done commenting since I had the feeling that you were there to do a much better job that I and alot of us could do- I guess I was wrong. Since the blog is yours, you can ban me if you chose but I will post elsewhere. Hopefully I won’t have to go elsewhere – that’s it for now.
Don’t let the pods get ya.
I don’t mind criticism. I know people are rightfully upset about both this nomination and the Democratic response to it. Sometimes, though, the left blogosphere engages in groupthink. It’s useful for me to be contrarian from time to time.
And I never said he was our ally. I said that the spooks in Langley will see him as more of an ally than a proxy for Runsfeld.