Promoted by Steven D.
The Iraq war is becoming as long and agonizing as Vietnam–one poll says it is even more politically divisive. Chuck Hegel said last week that the situation on the ground in Iraq is an “absolute replay” of Vietnam. And there are other resemblances as well.
Rather than make comparisons for you, let me simply tell a few stories about that time that seem relevant to recent discussions here.
Such discussions, acrimonious and very emotional at times, were common in the decade beginning in 1965. Before getting into the nature of those discussions, let me share what someone has recently told me about the mechanism of response in these situations.
When we feel threatened in some way, or simply when conflict arouses our attention and instincts, we fall back on basic responses: fight, freeze or flight. In terms of brain chemistry, our ability to reason becomes impaired, or at least secondary. We literally cannot hear what others are saying, if it s contrary to the threat we feel.
This happens in situations of real danger and stress, so training for soldiers, first responders, etc. is very important, so they act more or less automatically. This is also exploited by certain kinds of training, to act as the trainers wish you to act, regardless of what the situation may actually call for.
However, this response is also a tendency in verbal conflicts, which is why it’s often wise to take a breath and back off for awhile. It is also why, when we judge what people said and did in stressful situations, we need to judge the entire context.
Even decades later.
I obviously can’t speak for everyone who was young in the Vietnam era. So when I say “we,” it’s shorthand for the people I knew. However, there were a lot like us. If you were draft age, and especially if you were in college, you were involved in these discussions to some degree.
Some of us talked about Vietnam and associated moral and political issues virtually every day. Some years (for me, the late 60s) there was hardly a conversation in which these subjects didn’t come up.
There was one set of discussions about Vietnam:the politics, history and other contexts of the war. These began with the campus Teach-Ins in 1965 and became a major part of our education.
All of these discussions were in the context of a lot of information on campuses and in print–books, and extensive journalism, analysis and argument in the New York Review of Books, Ramparts and other publications. Many organizations sprang up and issued pamphlets, booklets and newsletters.
We listened to new young leaders and to established public figures, more and more of whom–from old Left firebrands and new poets to anthropologist Margaret Mead–were talking about the war and all the issues involved.
We also had novels (like “Catch-22”, “Slaughterhouse Five”) and poetry influencing the discussion. And especially music, that dealt with issues pretty directly (Dylan’s “Masters of War” for example) or contributed in terms of spirit, and of suggesting alternative culture and ways of being.
There was a related set of discussions having to do with the morality of participating in an immoral war. It had to do with decisions that young men like me were being forced to make, because we were being drafted. For us, the discussions went beyond politics and academic discourse. We were trying to decide what we were going to do, because we were being forced to make a decision, about our lives, about life and possibly death.
I turned 18 in the summer of 1964. I walked down the alley from the building where I was working, for the Voter Registration Drive sponsored by the Democratic Party and the local of the AFL-CIO’s political committee, called COPE (I don’t remember what the acronym stood for) to the draft board registration office. Actually, I hobbled. I was on crutches from catching a football as I was falling into a ditch. I don’t recommend it as recreation.
I had the student deferment (2-S) during college, but we still had to report for physicals when called. I got called in 1967 during the highest draft call month of the war. My first physical was in Chicago, a chaotic nightmare of hundreds and probably thousands of young men in their underwear standing in lines and filling out forms.
We quickly learned that who passed and who didn’t was almost entirely arbitrary, based on whether the person examining you at each station wanted you to get out or not. In my group, the top swimmer on our college team got out because somebody was a fan of college athletics. I was in the next line, and I was (and am) entirely deaf in one ear. I passed.
I also remember the young officer (a white guy) in charge of instructing us on filling out our forms. He was very authoritarian and by the book. Then when we were done he closed the door, and told us that anybody who went to Vietnam was a sucker, so get out any way you can.
Before that day and after, I consulted draft counselors in Chicago. There were several sets of them, from various organizations, and although they all gave you the information you needed about your rights, and the forms, etc. they each advocated a different approach to resistance. The Quakers advocated conscientious objector status. A more political organization preferred overt resistance, and jail as protest. However, by the time I was drafted, at least one of these groups changed their tactic. Draft protestors were singled out in prisons, they learned, and so they advised against going to jail if you had any other alternative, such as leaving the country (which generally meant Canada.)
The moral questions we had to answer were many. They started with locating our beliefs about war. Am I against this war, or all wars? Under what conditions would I fight or kill?
Is it moral to avoid the draft when another will have to take your place? Is it moral to accept the draft and refuse to be a combatant, meaning another will take your place on the battlefield? On the other hand, is it moral to do anything, inside the Army or outside, that enables the war machine to continue?
For draft age men, there were practical questions that resulted from these quandaries. When I am called what should I do? Do I comply and hope for the best, hoping that either I don’t get into combat situations or that I will make moral decisions if I do? Go into the army, and request a non-combatant role? But aren’t non-combatants enabling others to kill, and isn’t that equally immoral?
Do I resist and go to jail, and risk being in situations where I choose between being harmed and harming? Again, the issues of violence and nonviolent resistance.
Do I refuse by going to Canada, leaving behind everything and everyone I know?
To help answer these questions, we learned more. We learned more about how we would be trained, how the military worked, and how that would limit our choices once we were in it. We learned a little about what we could expect in prison. There was even less information on Canada, but we knew it meant we couldn’t return, even if our families accepted our decision.
This makes it sound like a wholly rational procedure. It wasn’t. It was nuts.
We saw a memo purporting to be a Selective Service document called “Channeling.” It said that part of the purpose of the draft was to channel young men into activities that help the state–either in the armed services or into war work areas that were deferrable (weapons research perhaps), or if they were malcontents and protestors, channel them to jail or out of the country.
Those not faced with these imminent decisions debated the best ways to resist. Work within the electoral system–though there were few antiwar candidates? Was revolution the only answer? Analysis of the war led to analysis of reasons for the war, which led to moral issues involving racism, cultural as well as political imperialism, the military-industrial-academic state.
We spent a lot of time talking to each other about these issues, and trying to persuade other guys that fighting this war was wrong, that the army wasn’t what they thought it was, and once they went in, they would regret it. These got to be passionate arguments, with a lot of angry words. Some women ended up in tears of frustration and sorrow for what these young men would be doing, and doing to themselves.
Besides the draft, there were also recruiters who came to campus, and we had ROTC on our campus as well. On the theory that reducing the number of people who go into the armed forces would reduce the ability to fight this immoral war, we protested recruitment on campus, and harassed recruiters when they showed up. We challenged them, as we challenged politicians, to start telling the truth. Because they were all lying, just about all the time.
There was no active protest against ROTC on my campus that I recall, but I do remember looking up from a newspaper I was reading in the student union to see a classmate in his ROTC uniform, and spontaneously giving him the Nazi salute. To me this was a bit of guerrilla theatre, something out of a Beatles movie even. But to him, as it turned out, it was very disturbing. We had a long talk about it on the patio outside the union building many months later, just before graduation. He told me his feelings about defending the country, and learning about honor and duty, and also about trading a couple of years in the Army for what they paid towards his college education. I told him my feelings about protesting the war and refusing as a patriotic act, and so on. It was a sad conversation–especially since graduation was taking place at the same time as Bobby Kennedy’s funeral– but a real one. I’m glad we had it. A few weeks after graduation he was sent to Vietnam. He’d been there for two weeks when he was killed.
While months earlier, as I agonized over all this, I used every delaying tactic and bureaucratic opportunity I could to delay induction. By the time my induction physical was scheduled for Fort Des Moines, Iowa, I knew what I was going to do. First, I knew my rights down to the paragraph, and what appeals were due me. I had all my hearing tests and other information about possible physical disqualifications.
If all my efforts failed, I would refuse induction by stepping back when the oath was given. That would trigger more appeals. In the meantime, I had my conscientious objector papers ready to file. CO status was hard to get if you weren’t a member of a church recognized as pacifist. I was raised Catholic, and the Crusades weren’t a real good precedent.
But if I was going down, I would go down writing. I remember including the lyrics of a song called “Universal Soldier,” written by Buffy Sainte Marie, but made popular by Donovan. It began:
He’s five foot two, and he’s six feet four
He fights with missiles and with spears…
…He’s the one who gives his body as a weapon in the war and without him all this killing can’t go on…
It ends:
He’s the universal soldier and he really is to blame
His orders come from far away no more/they come from him
And you and me/and brothers can’t you see/this is not the way we put the end to war.
I had come to the conclusion that it was a violation of my constitutional rights to be compelled to kill somebody. So I wrote that. I felt putting myself in position to be told to kill somebody, or to aid in killing people, without my informed consent, was immoral. I said that by pursuing an immoral war, the government and the army had ceded its moral authority.
But I had also come to the conclusion that personally I would not survive the army of these times. I was convinced that whatever I had that would be of use to the future would be destroyed in the army. It would drive me crazy in one way or another. (And in that I was sort of proved right.) Jail was the same kind of alternative. If I let them force me into one or the other, I figure they’d won. The war against the war was a guerilla war.
So if all else failed, I was going to head for the border. This was a big deal for me, because I had little conception of how I would survive. I’ve never been good at the making a living part of living, and I was really naïve then. My family was sympathetic about what I was going through, my parents didn’t necessarily support the war (they had doubts) but they were frightened to death of the idea that I might refuse induction. And in any case, you soon learned that when you face these decisions, you really face them alone.
I took a long bus trip from Iowa City to Fort Des Moines, paid for by the Army. As I was the only member of my group on this trip, I was designated by the Army as the head of it. It was my first and last command.
I bunked at the barracks with a lot of farm boys pleased as punch to be going into the army and getting away from home, plus a few other college kids who found each other quickly and formed a squad for mutual self-protection. The army guys in charge pushed the kids around, but left us on our own.
My physical turned out to be a battle between the sergeant at station #1, regular army (black), who was thorough and flexible to the point that I was certain he was more than ready to let anybody who didn’t want to be in the army just go home, and the doctor at station #9, a draftee (white) who eventually told me that no matter what I did or what my test results said, he was going to pass me, because if he had to do his two years, everybody did.
This physical lasted three days. I had my hearing tests, and #1 sent me to a doctor in town for confirmation. With confirmation in hand I went to #9, who passed me. Same with other physical ailments. But I was getting the idea that #1 was going to let me string this out as long as necessary, so I began inventing things. I filed petitions based on the first ten amendments, separately, and on the UN Declaration of Human Rights. I wrote in rhyme wherever possible. I moved to the psychological claims.
As a kid from a working class culture I’d never even seen a psychiatrist up close before, but they sent me to a couple. After two and a half days of this, I was pretty convincingly crazy. I thought there was a film crew following me. To this day I don’t know if it was a hallucination or not. Just before one of my appointments, I was facing a closed door. After twenty minutes or so, I saw the door open and a nurse come out of a broom closet, smiling at me. That’s when I went in to see the shrink.
There was a different #9 that day and they wished me good riddance. They also told me that I’d never get a real job with this on my record. It took me a long time to recover from that period of time, the year or so from the first physical to the second, and I doubt I did completely. Between the two, Martin Luther King was killed, and the candidate I counted on to end the killing, Bobby Kennedy was killed. In the chaos of all this I couldn’t take certain courses seriously and fell slightly short of my graduation requirements. Others of lesser academic standing had been given a waiver when they were that close. But as a well-known antiwar loudmouth, I was not.
I guess I’ve gone on so long about this to give you the context for what I’m about to say, which is the point of this diary. I did what I had to do to survive, body and soul. I did not survive unscathed. No one did. There were no moral certainties and though I’d been excessive at times in my criticism of those who became part of the war machine, I was ready to see things in a context which was in some ways larger, and in other ways, very specific.
I am not for a moment trying to say my experiences were equivalent to what soldiers went through in Vietnam. I was in a lot of protests, got into a few scrapes when total strangers could be violent because of your hair length, and caught my share of tear gas, but it’s a whole different order from being under fire, in that context day after day, and coming home with those kinds of wounds. And for the record, I never spit at a returning soldier. Ever.
In personal terms, I was already clear about each of us making the best decisions we could at Christmastime the year of the Christmas bombing, when our families were trying to be cheerful and live in happy America, and my best friend from high school and I were talking about what we were going to do about our draft notices. His decision was to accept induction, to request non-combatant duty. If he was ordered to Vietnam as a combatant, he would refuse to go.
I understood his decision and supported him, as he understood mine and supported me. We were as close to being brothers as I’ve experienced. Eventually he was inducted and sent to Korea as a chaplain’s assistant. I wrote to him and sent him packages, which considering the shape I was in at the time, was considerable effort.
Later, I expanded this horizon and it happened like this: I was hitch-hiking at the edge of a highway, and saw a guy in an army uniform running towards me. This didn’t look good—me with my long hair and guitar case. But I stood my ground and waited. When he got to me he was beaming. He had just gotten out, and he was happy to see anybody who looked like me. You guys were right, he said.
Shortly after that I began hearing about Vietnam Vets Against the War and this guy named John Kerry. They were at the next big demonstration in DC, so I marched behind them. My band of brothers had expanded.
Of my closest friends from home, three had been in the Army, two of them in Vietnam. One was decorated for bravery under fire as a medic. The other, the kid from the African American family next door who I played war with when we were little, was an officer and also a hero. He saved a bunch of lives, and did all kinds of good things back in the states. There was a street named after him somewhere. As I’d generally been his commanding officer at home, being the one who made up the story we played out, I took some satisfaction in this.
My college housemate moved to Canada–I drove a van load of his stuff to his new home. He still lives there. He’s thinking of standing for the legislature. Another protestor I knew from college used to be the chief of staff at the White House. After working to register voters for LBJ, I’d protested against him, and that burned my political bridges back home.
We all made our decisions, we all lived our lives. I don’t judge others’ choices, even though a lot of judging still goes on. Some Vietnam vets have never forgiven civilian protestors, even after reconciling with their adversaries in the field of battle. I don’t understand that exactly, but I accept it. Still, many vets and protestors did reconcile, did come to a common understanding that we all make choices, according to circumstances we found ourselves in; according to the cards we were dealt. And we all have to accept the consequences.
In the heat of the moment, some men in Vietnam committed atrocities. They have to live with that, and with whatever judicial consequences ensued. I don’t entirely agree that given the same circumstances we all would make the same decisions, but I was sure that I would not allow myself to be put in the position of having to make those kinds of decisions. Not in that war. That these guys in Washington wanted to put me in that position still makes me angry.
Somebody who I respect, an older writer who was also an antiwar advocate, cautioned me against becoming a pacifist, because you never know, a righteous war might just come along. It was pretty unlikely, but possible. I went with the unlikely part. I went with what I knew about the people leading the government then.
I believed concretely that to deprive an unjust government and an immoral war of your body as a weapon is a moral act. I believe that in the abstract it is wrong to do anything to further an immoral war. But I made decisions on just how far I would go with that, and others made different decisions, if they even believed that. Nobody had to pass any sort of test to march against the war, or vote against it when they got the chance.
I honored and supported war resisters then, both in and out of the armed forces, and I do now. I don’t judge the soldiers who are in Iraq, not without knowing their story. They’re only a pawn in the game of the Masters of War. I’ve got a relative there now, the husband of a cousin’s daughter. We pray for his safe return. My best friend’s daughter is married to a Iraq vet. She’s a wonderful kid and she’s helping him adjust. I haven’t met him yet but he sounds like a great guy. He’s working in alternative energy.
It all makes me think of the introductory chapter to Vonnegut’s Slaughterhouse Five, in which he and his friend sit down with a bottle of whiskey to recall the war, but the friend’s wife is hostile. Vonnegut asks her why. She says because you were all just children then. Vonnegut agrees, and he subtitles the book, the Children’s Crusade.
Look at the faces of the Americans over there, especially the dead. They are children. Now some of them are dead children.
The organization I know the most about, and I respect them tremendously, is the GI Rights Hotline. The local group is composed of lawyers, physicians and educators, and lots of Vietnam vets. (I wrote about them here.) They are fighting against war “one soldier at a time.” But they support the soldiers they counsel. They try to help them get their rights to medical care, and to help for their families. How the warmakers in Washington treat soldiers and their families is deeply immoral, a complete scandal.
But the Hotline also counsels kids being recruited in high schools, telling them about the empty promises and outright lies by recruiters. Some will go anyway, to get away from home, to meet new people, which they will. Some will change their minds after what they see and experience, and want out, and the GI Rights Hotline will try to help them.
When I was junior high age I had a plan to go to the Naval Academy. I probably could have gotten the congressional appointment. But then I found out I wouldn’t be accepted, because of my hearing. The clarity of chain of command, the discipline, the dedication to duty appealed to me. It still does to some extent and it may yet prove useful, though I doubt it will be in a purely military context. I would never compel anyone to do any kind of “service.” Compulsion is just plain wrong. When we need selfless service, and we have mechanisms worthy of that dedication, we won’t be in short supply. After all, people are ready to join Starfleet right now.
I posted this in the middle of the night so I won’t fuss with it anymore, or have to decide whether I want to post it at all. So talk amongst yourselves if you wish, and I’ll catch up with you later.
Deeply moving, and thank you for taking us along through the memories of this struggle shared by all of us back then, in one way or another. My attempts to influence my blindly patriotic little brother to NOT enlist were not only usless, but got me in deep trouble in my ultra conservative world, where serving ones country was the ultimate, unquestioning honor.
Interestingly,he failed his physical three times. (Overweight, with an elevated blood pressure) He would not be deterred, dieted his way back into normal range, and they finally took him. He was one of many of our young who went off to Nam in 100% full faith that every single thing his government had told him was absolutely true, and that anyone who questioned it was practically a traitor. But then, he had been an army brat too, so his programming as a Patriotic American Male had started soon after he was born, and he was not exposed to any environment that would have helped him ever question any of it. Resistance to the Nam war never really made it to small town America where we lived then.
His “awakening” to the true realities of what he would be asked to do in Nam, was reflected in the only letter he wrote (to me,) before he died , and began with the words..”Oh god, sis…you were right..” followed by words of total horror and hearbreak. I don’t see, knowing his basically gentle nature, as I did, how he could have lived with this, if he’d survived that war.
Yes, he was still just a child, no matter how big and strong his body was. Like many who are serving now, he had not had time to mature to anywhere near the degree required to make solid, informed decisions about matters such as the rightness or wrongness of any war, or even time to form a set of beliefs of his own, based on full information.
For any nation to choose to use it’s impressionable young people, to exploit them with what often amounts, IMO to cult programming, in order to gain thier willingness to sacfrifice thier very lifes, and to take the live of countless innocents, in the pursuit of unessential, non defensive, preemptive wars based on political agendas, is totally and absolutely abhorrent.
To justify, thus ignore, the total human cost of such wars, and the horrendous ripple effect permanent damage of these wars on all existance, is inhuman.
But knowing as I know, how young minds can be influenced and programmed by relentless amounts of cultural and military (and often) religious programming and propaganda, I cannot in good conscience lay “blame” on the front line military as a whole.
The prime responsibility lies with the so called “leaders,” all the way up the line to the Oval Office and Pentagon, to those charged with protecting us and the Constitution of this land.
And it belongs to each any every American who, through supporting these kinds of people, or via silent complicity, has allowed people like this to reach and hold the highest levels of power.
I am so glad you did not go, and I thank you for helping others to not go. Carrying guns under fire is only one way to show courage, incredibly bravery, and a sincere desire to serve ones country.
I am proud of my brothers bravery in following what he truly believed his duty was. And I am equally proud of you, and all who said then, and say now, “Hell No! I won’t GO!”
Scribe, your story is deeply moving as well. I was a child during the 60’s and 70’s, and did not confront these issues directly, personally, as you and the Captain have. However, I was old enough to know and to begin to understand what was happening. Those were tough times.
It is important for ya’lls stories to be told. The young ones today need to hear them. Thank you both for sharing your stories with us. Please tell the young ones, over and over, and over again……
Thank you, bluneck, and I will. It is what I still “can do”. It is not an easy task to tell stories people so often do not wish to hear, thus find difficult to believe or lend to any credibility to. Easier for many to simply dimiss us as behind the times.
But some things never change, and the awesome,deadly, pervasiverly devastating effects of war on humanity, is one of them.
Retailatory violence has never ended any violence, just moved it around or postponed it for another day, to come back in even more virulent form. Hatred given will always be returned multiplied. And any people oppressed and ignored hard and long enough, will rebel with whatever violence and weaponry they have at hand and in heart.
I see no way these cycles will ever change until there is a working balance of masculine and feminine energies in positions of power. That’s how they are intended to operate, in tandem with each other, not with one or the other in total control.
Neither macusculine or feminine power can be judged “right or wrong”” neither are “good or bad”. They are just each as they are, and are meant to be blended into balanced whole, inside of each one of us, and in the world, as well.
Only when the masculine power to protect and fight is blended with the feminine powers of creation, and collabortive compassion, will any alternatives to war really emerge.
So it seems to me.
IMO, a matriarchal society would be much better than this one we’ve got.
Not necessarily. I think of the mothers of Sparta raising sons for their wars and mocking boys who couldn’t or wouldn’t fight. The idea that women ruling would make a better world is not proved or provable.
Anyway, it’s irrelevant. It’s not going to happen and I don’t see wasting energy on advocating for yet another system that puts one group above another, especially when it shames another. The societies that have lasted the longest, even as oppressed and decimated as they are, have been balanced, as most cultures were before the rise of large scale agriculture and the kings who promised big crops 10,000 years ago.
Actually, you are correct. I agree wholeheartedly with your considered and informed opinion. I made that comment in a moment of frustration with current conditions. When the world is going to hell in a handbasket, any alternative to the status quo seems attractive.
no problem. There are certainly days when an all-turtle government or a felinearchy looks like an improvement.
Thank you for the story, Captain. It shows, I think, the extent to which the engagement in immoral acts by a nation come eventually to alter life for all citizens within that nation.
We are probably approaching very tumultuous times again in this country, what with agitation for expansion of hostilities coming loudly out of the VPs office. No one but the zealots look forward to it, of course, but we can be prepared. Your sharing helps us in that regard.
Peace.
-swift
Thanks to Steven D. for promoting my diary to the front page. Not appearing there that often, I was unaware one could subsequently be demoted off the front page. I’m curious who did that and why.
“I’m curious who did that and why.”
Me, too.
I don’t know who, but I possibly know why… when diaries are promoted to the front page, they disappear off the diary list. Once they move down the front page, they disappear from there too.
So possibly Steven D promoted your diary in order for it to gain initial attention and then he (or someone) moved it back to the diaries list so that it could stay visible in the recommended section once it started moving down the front page.
Oh, and excellent article, by the way. Brings back many memories.