Update below the fold.
What is most important lesson to take away from the British disclosure of the terror plot to blow up 10 airliners?
It’s not what you may think it is.
No, it’s not that the British foiled the terrorists with traditional law enforcement tactics, and cooperation from a state that harbors terrorists. That’s an important point to make, considering the Bush/Cheney “fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here” malarkey is still a constant talking point among their addled base of supporters (now down to a “majority” of 33% of the American Public based on the latest AP-Ipsos poll).
And no, its not the fact that, despite having known about the possibility of liquid chemicals being smuggled on board airplanes to be combined to make a crude explosive device, the Bush administration (i.e., thanks to the incompetence of our Homeland Insecurity Department, as clammyc has so ably pointed out) had done nothing to protect airline passengers from such threats. We’ve known about the Republican’s complete indifference to actual security measures to protect Americans for some time. This most recent story merely highlights what many of us have been railing about for the past several years. Not that anyone in the mainstream media will take notice, of course, reliant as they are on the official Republican spin that this the terrorist threat coupled with the results of the Lamont victory over Lieberman proves that only Bush and the GOP can save us.
No, the most important lesson to be learned from this most recent terrorist plot is who the 21 arrested terrorists were not:
Not Iranians
Not Syrians
Not Hamas
Not Hisbollah
Not Iraqis
So who were they? British citizens and others with strong connections to Pakistan.
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The Pakistan Connection
Pakistani terror networks were behind the 7/7 bombings and the London airline plot. What will we do about it?
by Thomas JoscelynSimilar to the 7/7 bombings, reports indicate that the plotters had ties to terrorists operating in Pakistan. The British investigation into the 7/7 bombings revealed that the plot’s ringleaders had traveled to Pakistan, where they likely “had some contact with Al Qaeda figures.”
But while the terrorists’ ties to the al Qaeda hotspot failed to register in time to stop the 7/7 bombings, they set off alarm bells this time. Several reports indicate that Pakistani intelligence officials played a role in breaking up the plot. The precise information Pakistan provided the British has not yet been reported, but it may have involved the plotters’ ties to the same Pakistani terror network which had a hand in the 7/7 bombings.
The plot apparently began to unravel when Pakistani authorities arrested two British citizens of Pakistani descent in the last week to ten days. Starting from there, British, American, and Pakistani authorities connected the dots on the terrorists, leading to their compatriots in London, who also had ties to the Pakistani terror network.
Pakistan. The country in which Al Qaeda leaders Osama bin Laden and Ayman Al Zawahiri (as well as many former Taliban leaders) have long been thought to be hiding.
Pakistan. The country which allowed the head of its nuclear program, Dr. A.Q. Khan to set up a network which is believed to have shared nuclear weapons technology with Libya, Iran and North Korea.
Pakistan. The country with the highest proportion of radical fundamentalist Islamic schools known as Madrassahs, which preach jihad against the West and India, and which are a source of recruits for terrorist organizations.
Pakistan. A country headed by a military dictator, Pervez Musharraf who remains in power primarily due to economic and military aid received from the United States. A leader who rules an increasingly radicalized citizenry, including many members of his own Intelligence service, ISI which has links to several radical Islamic militant organizations. Indeed, some experts believe that elements of the ISI have links to Al Qaeda.
It’s not a stretch to think that we should be focusing our efforts in the “War on Terror” on Pakistan. That’s where Al Qaeda and the Taliban are. That’s where most of the recent threats against targets in the West have arisen. That’s where the only terrorists to strike in the United States are based.
Yet, time and time again, the Bush administration deliberately elides this connection between Pakistan and terrorism. Instead, Bush, Cheney and other administration officials have muddied the waters claiming at various times that Saddam Husssein, the Iraqi insurgency, Hizbollah, Syria and Iran were, and are, the central figures in the ever expanding War on Terror, and pose the greatest threat to America’s security. In short, they have deliberately turned a blind eye toward the most active source of international terrorism, Pakistan.
Which begs the question: Why? Why do we continually downplay Pakistan’s role in the terror attacks which have been launched at the homelands if the United States and the United Kingdom. Is it because of the nuclear weapons they possess? Is it because their US supported leadership is one well placed assassin’s bullet away from becoming the most dangerous fundamentalist Islamic state on the planet? Is it because they have no oil, unlike Iran and Iraq? Or is it that they pose no threat to Israel, like Hamas, Syria and Hizbollah?
In a sense, these are all rhetorical questions. Many of us already suspect that the answer to each of them is yes. These are unknowns that we think we know, to paraphrase Mr. Rumsfeld. Yet, that hardly lessens the outrage of watching our troops die in Iraq, or the citizens of Iraq suffer from a sectarian civil war created in large part by our occupation of their country, or our bombs dropped by the Israelis on the Lebanese, or Al Qaeda continue to engineer terror attacks around the world.
We are breaking our Army on the anvil of Iraq. We have destroyed our international reputation and become isolated diplomatically from our traditional allies, considered by many a rogue nation and the greatest threat to world peace. We are pissing away our national treasure into the hands of corrupt contractors and a defense industry in bed with the highest officials of our Government. Soaring Oil prices are eating away at the financial security of ordinary Americans while oil companies reap obscene profits. Meanwhile, Republicans shills are screaming to their media pals that only they can save us from the terrorist sympathizers in the ultra-left Democratic Party.
And somewhere, in Pakistan, Osama Bin Laden is laughing at us.
British Terrorists’ Connection to Pakistan
Update [2006-8-11 14:29:40 by Steven D]: 9/11 Commissioner, Tim Roemer, says the UK terror plot is why we shouldn’t be in Iraq (courtesy Think Progress):
Full transcript:
ROEMER: We need to finish the job in Afghanistan. We need to capture Osama bin Laden. These are unfinished parts of the agenda. Afghanistan is backsliding. We are sending more NATO troops there. We are running into more problems in the south. More sorties are going on there then maybe even in Iraq and we’re having problems with the Tora Bora hills and trying to find Osama bin Laden and Zawahiri who seem very confident these days releasing their tapes and these are CNN studio quality tapes that they are putting out there these days communicating with hundreds of millions of potential jihadists and trying to get them to sign up.
O’BRIEN: You mention more problems potentially than Iraq, that’s a little bit of a quote of what you just said. Are you suggesting that maybe we should be withdrawing resources and money out of Iraq and putting it into capturing Osama bin Laden and in Afghanistan and other things? I mean at the end of the day, right, it comes down to ‘X’ number of dollars can be spent in certain things. Where do you put that money?
ROEMER: I don’t think you can cut and run from Afghanistan. I think you really have to finish the job there. We started out well. We did some things innovatively there with special operation forces and our CIA recruiting Muslim Americans to help. We did a great job there initially and now we’re seeing some backsliding and some lack of progress there, and I think it’s very important to finish the job in Afghanistan. It’s very important that we don’t put all our intelligence and military resources in Iraq and take our eye off the ball in other places in the world and it’s very important that we capture Osama bin Laden and we are not letting him release a tape every few months trying to motivate and inspire and recruit new jihadists.
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So when do we bomb those freedom hating Brits?
We can’t. Like the Pakistanis the Brits are part of the Coalition of the Willing, and they have their own nukes too. No one want’s to see a nuclear Bunker Hill.
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What a brilliant piece of writing and truth seeking Steven. Once again, BushCo ignores the facts and continues to eff up the world. When will those Beltway boys wake up?
I don’t think they are ignoring them, so much as exploiting the terrorists known to be there (and their continuing plots) to further their other agendas: continued control of the Government, continued dimunition of civil liberties, and the wars in the Middle East, both current and the ones they hope will come (Syria and Iran). Admittedly, it’s a fine point as to how much Bush understands this. We know the intelligence he is presented is pre-screened and dumbed down. However, there should be little doubt that Rice, Cheney and Rummy fully understand the situation.
Don’t worry, the Pakistan government is letting it be known there are links to Afghan Al-Qaeda. Which is silly, because Afghanistan is under US/NATO control.
An excellent point well made, Steven.
Unfortunately we are paying the price for decades of playing badly at the game of “bad guys but our bad guys”. It will take a deep demolishing of America’s belief in the nature of the world and our place in it before we’re able to get out of this box.
The only small hope I see is a much bigger takeover by the “extremist crazy commie blogging fanatics” who dumped Lieberman and are going for bigger battles now.
Yeah, we started cosying up to Pakistan long ago, and it really went into overdrive during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Now we are reaping the fruits of that buddy-buddy relationship where we ignored their nuclear shenanagins so long as they let the CIA and its jihadi troops use Pakistan as a base to fight a proxy war against Russia.
I think the US government is eager to keep Pakistan weaponized the way it is to keep India from becoming “too big for its britches”, so to speak. By empowering a highly manipulable, (bribable), bona fide boogeyman right next door, the US sends the signal to India that “We’ll be your friend as long as you let us exploit you but as soon as you start competing with us for a bigger piece of the economic pie we may encourage our violent pals in Pakistan to make trouble for you.”
Didn’t we make a deal with the devil to let Khan off so we could continue pretending to look for OBL on the Aftghanistan/Pakistan border?
Can’t recall the details.
Here is the link. Guess what? another election was in the offing–2004.
Link wasn’t to the Khan incident, but the last time we stepped into an investigation of Pakistan and ruined it.
that doesn’t contradict or detract from Steven D’s point.
I was replying to sbj’s idea that we shouldn’t accept the guilt of those arrested until we learn more.
Another lesson we have learned from past, don’t believe anything bush team says:
(1) After Bush learned of plot days ago, White House used insider information to commence aggressive campaign to attack Democrats as weak on terror, knowing plot would soon be revealed: “Weeks before September 11th, this is going to play big,” said another White House official, who also spoke on condition of not being named, adding that some Democratic candidates won’t “look as appealing” under the circumstances.
(2) While Bush team compare terror plot to 9/11, and imply US cities were targets, NOT true. The suicide bombers planned 3 “phased” attacks on “nine or 10 jets over a period of several months” to “blow up the aircraft over the sea so that investigators would be unable to discover how the explosive – possibly a peroxide-based liquid explosive – was taken through the airport security without being detected.”
This may seem like a minor point, but you say;
I would suggest that those arrested are supposed terrorists at most, and in the spirit of the idea that people are inocent until proven guilty I reserve judgment on their status.
I for one am not willing to take anything either the British or US governments say about this at face value absent verifiable evidence supported by independent sources.
Yesterday there was a brief blurb I heard about how it was the US who informed Britain that there was increased “chatter” about this so-called plot and that this was what triggered the round up of these people. There seems to be no follow up on that today.
I agree we should be skeptical and not pre-judge the people arrested for this plot, but the major point I’m making is that each of the last major terror attacks (England, Spain, India) have come from groups of people either based in Pakistan, or with a connection to Pakistan. Not from Iran or Syria or whomever else Bush has pointed the finger at.
Yes! I wasn’t disputing your central point which is right on the mark. I just wanted to alert against falling too easily into the assumption that those arrested were terrorist people. After all, the so-called “terrorist” London police murdered a while back was a brazilian guy with no connection to this sort of thingat all. The numbskulls in Miami recently arrested as terrorist involved guys likewise have nothing to do with terrorism.
Clearly, forces within Pakistan represents the second greatest threat to the world after the Bush regime and it’s adherents in the US.
On your “chatter” point, that makes me wonder if Bush didn’t just give the order to shut down this plot now. More “chatter” sounds like the cover story to obscure what really went down between the two governments, as well as a reason for Rove to claim that Bush was the one responsible for saving American lives in this case.
I think it’s pretty clear that the GOP sees the victory of Lamont as the perfect thing around which to organize their propaganda machine and their entire electoral strategy for the mid-terms around the idea that the so-called leftward pull of Lamont is proof positive that the Dems are weak on defense, defeatest in general, and will cause the US more harm if they achieve power. Just today the WSJ had no less than 3 items in their editorial swamp that address this meme.
There’s no doubt in my mind that the announcement of this so-called plot was carefully choreographed and it’s timing contingent on the results of the Lamont/Lieberman contest.
[http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008785]
[http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/dhenninger/?id=110008779]
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There have been many times I’ve wanted to write something up, but just didn’t – no time, lazy, whatever. And sure enough, if I didn’t cover it, you did, and far better than I would have. So thanks. For the first time in my activist life, I feel like someone is fighting the fights that need to be fought, and I can take a breather now and then. I really, REALLY appreciate this post, and many others from you, Steven,
I had started to do a diary on this yesterday. I was going to go into the whole A.Q. Khan story. It started to turn into a mess, and I abandoned it. I wish now I’d saved some for a comment here.
The one thing missing in this analysis was the strong media presence of the Pakistani government in the press yesterday, saying how they had helped bring this particular network down. I don’t know if that is self-serving blather, or whether its true, or whether the true lies somewhere in between. But I would like to know more on whether there are warring factions withing the Pakistani intelligence service, the ISI (which some believe to be little more than an outpost of the CIA. I beg to differ, although I’m sure there is much backscratching in both directions.)
So if you or others have some insights into that, I’d be all, er, eyes. 😉
You know, those are good questions to which I don’t have a complete answer. I suspect the ISI is riddled with factions some of which support Musharraf and his ties toi the US and others that don’t. Plus even the factions that don’t like us, like the money that comes their way due to teh US-Pakistan relationship. That and I am willing to bet we give pakistan diplomatic cover for the ISI’s support of militant gr=oups in kashmir and india proper. So it’s no doubt a very delicate, complicated dance among all the parties. I do know that pakistan does seem willing to do favors for Bush come election time, much like what happened in the summer of 2004 right before the Dem Convemtion.
But you’ve got me thinking and I may pass along your questions to Larry Johnson and see what he or his associates know about the ISI.
Didn’t we prematurely announce another plot involving Pakistanis that meant some of the alleged terrorists went free? Some time ago, perhaps a year or two
and don’t forget, funding for all of this comes from our other “friends”, the Saudis.
Absolutely one of the best diaries Steven, of the many you give us. Reminding us(not that many here need reminding)that bush’s ‘war on terer’ is pretty much removed from any real war on terrorists groups, factions and terrorist wannabe’s.
there is a bigger lesson. That lesson is that invading Arab/Muslim countries for no reason whatsoever is bad foreign policy that endangers ones citizens. That lesson is indiscriminatley killing the civilians of these invaded countries creates justification for the killing of ones own citizens in the eyes of many. That lesson is blindly supporting a war criminal regime while it masacres the kids of another country is bad foreign policy that endangers the lives of ones own citizens.
It is time for our governments to learn these lessons and caring for their own citizens rather than supporting odious foreign war criminal regimes or embarking on needless military adventures.