Media Matters documents recent racist, misogynistic, and anti-Semitic comments from the Imus in the Morning radio program that is simulcast on MSNBC. I’ll use just one sample:
On the March 6 edition of MSNBC’s Imus in the Morning, executive producer Bernard McGuirk said that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) was “trying to sound black in front of a black audience” when she gave a speech on March 4 in Selma, Alabama, to commemorate the 1965 “Bloody Sunday” civil rights march. McGuirk added that Clinton “will have cornrows and gold teeth before this fight with [Sen. Barack] Obama [D-IL] is over.”
Earlier in the program, in reference to Clinton’s speech, McGuirk had said, “Bitch is gonna be wearing cornrows.” McGuirk also said that Clinton will be “giving Crips signs during speeches.” The Crips are a Los Angeles-based street gang.
Over at Daily Kos, tgnyc has more samples:
…the fact is Imus has an extensive history of making or allowing blatantly racist commentary and “jokes” on his morning radio show.
Like calling tennis star Serena Williams an “animal.”
Or calling national journalist Gwen Ifill “the cleaning lady.”
Or calling national journalist William Rhoden a “quota hire.”
Or likening the appearance of certain black NBA players to “apes.”
Or referring to residents of Harlem as “moolignans” (an Italian anti-black slur).
Or referring to the black wife of former Secretary of Defense William Cohen as a “big-haired ho.”
No one seems to be talking about it, but the Imus show also displays extreme homophobia on a regular basis. I got tired of it and stopped listening to Imus four or five years ago.
None of these insults seem to have phased the Gang of 500 Wankers that make up Imus’s regular guest list until he called the Rutger’s women’s basketball team a bunch of ‘nappy-headed hos’. Now, people like Howard Fineman are concerned:
FINEMAN: Just before I came on the show, I was coming upstairs and my cell phone rang, and it was some listener who called me out of the blue. I’d never heard of the guy before. I’d never heard his name. He called me and he said, “Are you going to go on the show and finally confront this Imus guy? Are you going to quit enabling him?” And, you know, I thought about that, and I said to the guy, “You know, I’ll puzzle that through on the radio.” And I would like to continue to enable you to do a lot of the good things you do. Including, you know, talking about stuff happening in the world, which you do a very good job of on this show.
You know, the form of humor that you do here is risky, and sometimes it runs off the rails. Most of the people who listen to this show get the joke most of the time, and sometimes, you know, as David Carr said in The New York Times this morning, sometimes you go over the line so far you can’t even see the line. And that’s what happened in this case. And I think of all the stuff you’ve done and do do, and, you know, you make your mistakes — we all make our mistakes. We all make mistakes. This was a big one. And I thought that the way you handled it just now — and I’m not blowing smoke here — I believe it, you know, was very heartfelt. And I know you well enough to know that that’s the case and you’re going to do everything you can to set it right.
You know, I don’t know what’ll happen. I think — you know, it’s a different time, Imus. You know, it’s different than it was even a few years ago, politically. I mean, we may, you know — and the environment, politically, has changed. And some of the stuff that you used to do, you probably can’t do anymore.
IMUS: No, you can’t. I mean —
FINEMAN: You just can’t. Because the times have changed. I mean, just looking specifically at the African-American situation. I mean, hello, Barack Obama’s got twice the number of contributors as anybody else in the race.
IMUS: Amen.
FINEMAN: I mean, you know, things have changed. And the kind of — some of the kind of humor that you used to do you can’t do anymore. And that’s just the way it is.
I’m going to bend over backwards here to defend Howard Fineman. I think he was trying to politely explain to Don Imus that he can’t make racist jokes anymore without trying to suggest that it was okay a year or two ago to make racist jokes. It’s the kind of conversation you have with a friend in private, where you don’t condemn the totality of their character but just their recent behavior…and you try to cajole them to get their act together by talking to them in a way that avoids inspiring a reflexive defensiveness.
But, of course, this is not the type of discussion you have with your friend on national radio and television. It makes Howard Fineman look like a total jerk…and an idiot.
This next part just makes me want to gag.
FINEMAN: Well, I hope the women from Rutgers will meet with you, and — although I can understand if they won’t, but I hope that they do. This is what they call a teaching moment, you know, in child-rearing, they call a teaching moment. This is a teaching moment for us all. For everybody. You know, all of us who do your show, you know, we’re part of the gang. And we rely on you the way you rely on us. So, you know, you’re taking all of us with you when you go out there to meet with them, you know.
I don’t even know what the hell that means. First of all, I hope the Rutgers team does not meet with Don Imus. They have nothing to say to him and there is nothing he can say to them. Secondly, the only teaching moment required here is that Don Imus gets fired and shunned as an example to other people.
Howard Fineman and the Gang of 500 Wankers might learn something from that.
Like 60 something year-old Don Imus should need a “teaching moment.”
I’ve tuned him out for good.
I’m not sure if Imus is even broadcast in the San Francisco Bay Area anymore. If he is he’s low-wattage now.
But when he was broadcast here, and at times when I’ve gone back east to visit my mother, I’ve gotten a taste of his show. It’s all rather depressing, the racism, the homophobia and the general reactionary view of the world that the ex-cocaine addict now spews. I heard that he’s going on Al Sharpton’s radio show to give up his mea culpas. While Sharpton is a far more entertaining personality he’s got his own skeletons in his closet (Tawana, for ex), and I seem to recall he took someone else’s confession a while back, the guy from Seinfeld, I think. So I guess Sharpton is who you go to when your racism shows.
In any case, I figured Imus would have completely shriveled and blown away by now but still is around, which goes to show you that there’s still a market for racism on the sly. Or racism on the dumb.
Please.
Imus is a total asshole.
This is NEWS!!!???
Jesus.
This country is SO sick.
Like…people are just figuring this guy out?
Unbelievable.
AG
it’s all over the news.
I know.
More evidence that the present is catching up to those of us who have been in front of the wave.
I mean.,…this guy has been a TRANSPARENTLY racist motherfucker for…for what? 30 years? Clever. Talented. Strong. But WRONG!!! And don’t get me started on his act with women and homosexuals.
AND he has been the drivetime AM radio champ for all of those years.
Now he says something that is precisely like what he has been saying for all of that time and he gets blasted for it?
Whew!!!
FINALLY!!!
You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind’s ‘ablowin’.
Not if you’re paying attention you don’t.
America’s been ill.
BushCo was the crisis.
Now’s the recovery.
How long will it last?
Has the patient been too badly weakened by the disease to EVER fully recover?
Stay tuned.
“CALLING DR. KILDARE!!!”
We shall soon see.
Later…
AG
Imus spews his crap, fakes his regret, and continues to “earn” his overinflated income. But this is so only because, for some reason, people continue to tune in. This is what works for Rush, Coulter and Pat Robertson. Apparently, he speaks for a sufficient number of people to make keeping him around worthwhile. (worthwhile=profits)
Yes, my friend, “it’s a different time”. But the reality is, it is not really an altogether different time. The main difference now is that there are some people who are willing to shine the light on this bigotry and hold the corporate feet to the fire on their hypocrisy. But the reality is that this type of observation and commentary by Imus is wholly acceptable, encouraged, enabled and spoken every day in millions of homes, places of business, churches, civic events, sporting events and any other venue where people of “like mind” come together. It is passed on to children and grandchildren from their elders through their own bigoted and misogynistic comments day after day.
I suppose there is something somewhat cathartic to a lot of us about having a figure such as Imus publicly berated, humiliated and verbally crucified by a wide variety of individuals. But what he said is something I hear repeated day after day after day here in the very heart of the country. What Imus said is just a reflection of the attitude that we, the white majority, are somehow naturally superior to all those “sub-human” people. We are the ubermenschen. They are “THEM”. Anyone different than us. Imus is simply reflecting what is still a standard view of a vast number of Americans. But instead of proudly proclaiming it in public, it is now only spoken of when in the presence of their like-minded brethren. We are better, “THEY” are less than us.
This is just another example of how the extreme eliminationist rhetoric has seeped into our daily discourse. There were likely millions of Americans in their homes and cars who laughed out loud and nodded approvingly as they listened to Imus’s comments. But their laughter was in the privacy of their own little closeted, bigoted world. But when given the opportunity, they most certainly shared a good yuck with their co-worker, neighbor, spouse or friend who might have also had a chance to overhear his idiocy.
If we value the soul of our country, we will make sure that people who publicly espouse this type of stupidity, ignorance and bigotry, like Mr. Imus, are banished to the farthest reaches of our land. If there is anyone who is a danger to the health and well being of our country, it is people who tout views like those of Mr. Imus. Should he be fired? You’re damn right he should. Should he ever work again in any capacity such as he works now? Never, never, never again.
People like Imus don’t deserve our sympathy or understanding. They deserve our loathing. They are the true “sub-humans” among us. He deserves nothing but our scorn. I look forward to his vanishing from the public eye.
over at the Orange Place too — because he’s done a lot of charity work for autism causes, he’s blasted the Iraq War, yadda yadda yadda…so we’re supposed to just laugh it off and look the other way.
But if Bill Orally or Rust Limpbough or one of the FOX Noise Channel talking heads said something like that, we’d be storming the FCC with letters demanding sanctions.
Looks like we may need a new acronym — IOKIYAB (It’s OK If You’re Against Bush).
Racism, sexism, homophobia…they’re just as disgusting on the Left as they are on the Right.
I’d like to see Imus and his producer meet with the Rutgers’ women’s team though…on the basketball court — let them try to go 2-on-2 against a couple of those players, and see which one keels over from a heart attack first…
Yes, I’m sure there are a lot of people who will rationalize it.
The bottom line here is that he espouses a belief that there are certain people who are less than human. People whose very lives have less value because of the color of their skin.
Folks, if anyone who calls themselves a Liberal, Democrat, Progressive or an American can give one ounce of respect or deference to an individual who makes these comments like Imus, then I have to truly doubt the credibility of their beliefs.
This issue goes right to the core of everything we profess to believe. No justification at all for giving him one bit of leeway on this. His views are poison. They cannot be allowed to have a place in this country. No exceptions, no forgiveness on this. That is the way it has to be.
Absolutely…not being prejudiced is the foundation on which everything else is built on in my mind without that, you have a house a cards built on sand. No matter how many good deeds you might do, if they don’t apply to everyone what’s the point.
Unless, of course…………you’re a “nappy headed ho”.
You stated it well. Equality of all men is supposed to be the cornerstone of the country. If that is not there, nothing else is possible.
The only time I hear him is when I turn on the TV in the morning and it is still on MSNBC from watching Olbermann the night before.
I cannot say that it surprises me that he said this. It will be interesting watching him try and dig his way out though. I would be just as happy if MSNBC dumped him for something else it would give me an alternative to CNN.
Happens to me, too.
But once I wake up and realize what’s going on, it is quickly changed.
Fineman comes off sounding almost worse than Imus…I don’t care what he ‘thought’ he was trying to tell Imus he just sounds ignorant and stupid himself.(nothing particularly new for him anyway) Can’t say this kind of stuff now but maybe a few years ago you could..bullshit, bullshit and more bullshit…I seem to recall something from the 60’s oh yeah the Civil Rights movement and racist language and words were supposed to be taboo then how is it we’re still putting up with all these sick and stupid words still…one step forward two steps back…it gets damn depressing sometimes to see just little progress has been made in our human evolution.
And I’d be willing to bet that the chances of Imus getting canned is absolutely zero.
It’s not just racist, it’s sexist, too. AG is right; Imus has long been an asshole, so this shouldn’t be news. What is news is that it’s being dealt with, and more important how it’s being dealt with. Post-Kramer, there’s a circuit you have to run when you say in public what you think in private. But this isn’t enough. The Rutgers basketball team has some of the best athletes in the country on it; how much of Meredith Viera’s time has been spent on them being called hos? And where are our professional moral scolds? Where’s Holy Joe? And where’s $500-slots Bill Bennett? And, lest we forget our friends in the DLC, where’s Harold “I like Playboy, and I like girls” Ford?
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hey there AP’s lurker spouse. Long time no see.
I agree it is a joke that the women on the team have to spend two seconds responding to this garbage.
I agree completely…don’t know why I didn’t include the rampant sexism-that can get me almost more riled up than racism-sexism is all around us daily, in the language and images of women..how women are still supposed to act or not act, say or not say, how we’re supposed to look or not look even how our voices are supposed to sound for petes sake-women face a daily minefield every day when they step out their doors to go to work, go to the store go anywhere for that matter of being criticized for ‘something’ relating to their simply being women and not fitting societies unrealistic image of what we are supposed to be.
That’s what frustrates me, too. He called these young women whores. Anytime a woman needs to be “cut down to size” we are called whores and sluts and worse. It’s the sexualized degradation that’s so grating. It’s the worst cut of all.
(And what is it about Black women’s hair that sets these people off? I mean, look at Imus–his hair looks like fried poodle hair.)
The silence is deafening. This sexist asshat has issues, and he needs to be fired. We’ve all seen folks fired for less.
The more I watch all the fallout – the more I get frustrated at the lack of comment on the sexism of what he said. I know it was absolutely ugly racism – but the sexism was just as ugly.
For example, I think Imus owes an apology to the Tennessee players too. What was his comment about them after winning the NCAA Final Four Basketball championship? It was to call them “cute.” Can you imagine his one and only comment about the Florida Gators basketball team after winning the men’s final four being that they are cute???
All of the women from both teams are amazing athletes that just accomplished something very few people ever could. And to demean all of them by laughing while you comment on how they look was a slap in the face to them, their families and their coaching staff.
I’m with you on that one, NL. It seems like whenever women achieve something notable the misogynists and sexists ratchet up the ho and bitch talk to put them in their rightful place.
I was flipping through news channels this evening trying to find someone talking about something else. I did notice one thing about the Imus coverage. Lou Dobbs had a NOW spokeswoman on. I didn’t see any other women. I saw a few black men interviewed, but I didn’t see any black women interviewed. Condi Rice would have been a good pick. I might even watch that one.
God forbid they interview a black woman athlete about what its like to have your life’s achievments degraded by this kind of racist/sexist garbage. It happens all the time, so there would be plenty of possible candidates.
I hate the ads on Imus, the sheer volume of them. His abuse of the public airways in this fashion crys out for regulation. The ads reflect his contempt for his listeners as he makes the big bucks that separate him from us. He is also a mean spirited hater. If you’ll pardon the pop psychiatry, his background of substance abuse demonstrates a deficient sense of self that shows itself in a lot of what he says.
I also think he does a lot of good. He speaks the truth to power, which doesn’t change things, but it doesn’t hurt either. The calls for his dismissal remind me of my getting unsubscribed from a Red Hat discussion list. The topic was how to get Linux in schools and government. I enlarged the topic in my head to how to replace Windows with Linux. My point was Linux needed one standardized user friendly version. This made the people on the list appoplectic. Some left the list and others threatened to leave if I remained. The administrator saw himself as having no choice. I was unsubscribed.
I’m not sure what it is that people feel they have to annilhlate other people. As far as the list was concerned, all posts displayed the name of the poster. People who did not like what I had to say could delete the post without reading it. They could mark it as spam and not see it at all, but that was not enough. I had to be annilihated o
I’m sorry. I’m new here and probably pressed the wrong button. My complete post was not posted.
The solution is to enlarge the egos of the targets, not to make Imus apologize or to rid ourselves of him altogether. If the Rutgers women’s basketball team doesn’t know they are not nappy ho’s, it’s time they learned. I believe if the freedom to speak anything. I also believe everyone is free not to listen to anything they find threatening or offensive. I’m inclined to listen to everything. Everyone should be as free as they care to be. No one has the right to shut anyone up. Everyone has the right not to listen if they don’t care to.
Ed Kunin
No worry.
And welcome to BT!
Look for a ‘Froggy Bottom Cafe/Lounge’ in the ‘Recent Diaries’ a bit later, and introduce yourself.
Hi Ed!
Let me express my regret that your ideas may have been repudiated, rejected, or even “annihilated” on another site, but I don’t believe that anyone in the progressive community wants Don Imus annihilated. I believe that he should be removed from public airways, which as you know are supported, funded, and regulated by taxpayer dollars, because his words are not protected by the Constitution. He has no right to defame, malign, and slander the Rutgers University women’s basketball team. No right at all! It is NOT the team that MUST learn they are not “nappy headed hos,” it is Don Imus. It’s so sad that at 67 years old this is the kind of lesson Imus is learning, but better late than never. The lesson can be enriched and reinforced once he is removed from the airways. He’ll have that much more time to ride around his ranch, pondering his unbelievable good fortune, and acknowledging that his racist, misogynistic remarks put an end to his shameful career. No annihilation involved, he’s left all in one piece, left all alone to consider the error of his ways.
Hi Liz
I did not mean that when I was unsubscribed the others on the list wanted me literally destroyed. I was annihilated in the sense that I, and my ideas, vanished. I see this as censorship. If Imus is removed from the radio, he is annihilated in the sense that his voice disappears.
Some will say, “Great”, he is meanspirited and nasty, which he certainly is. He represents hierarchical personal relationships. In pre-electronic days, the idea was to pull yourself up by putting others down. That’s hierarchy. Imus practiced what we have been doing for centuries. The times they are a changing. He didn’t get it. I think he does now.
Having said that relationships are changing, shifting from zero sum to win-win, I don’t think political correctness is helpful. We should never believe change is impossible or that anyone is beyond redemption. My mother used to say, “Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.” She was right. Confront bigots and their bile. Help them change themselves, but don’t silence them. Let them vent. It’s better for all of us.
It does however serve the much higher and far more noble purpose of taking discussion time away from Rosie, Bill and the current 911 truth “surge”.
Oh, look, a horsie!
Imus’ latest spiel got somebody’s attention, NBC News is suspending Imus simulcasts on MSNBC…via Raw Story
my toys keep breaking.my mornings are getting more and more depressing. marin, winstead, seder, imus, when does it end.
The schmuck doesn’t yet see what he did!”the context”? What the hell- he just doesn’t see what he did.
Seriously though- the ones that are going to be hurt are the ones that have been forced to rely on folks like Imus to support them. I am not talking about the rest of his crew.
I am talking about the cancer ridden kids out on the ranch or the folks down at the new center for damaged soldiers that now have a new state of the art center for them to assist them in their travels through life.
Or all the folks out at the Hackensack hospital that form the SIDS Families to the Autism programs to his wifes devotion to the education needed to green this country that he has continuously worked for.
This is the nightmare. This is the horror that we have come to enjoy! Yup- ENJOY!!
We love the “humor” cause it doesn’t hurt me. We follow the mean spirited attacks of those in society that the Imuses and mcgiurks(fuck the spellig)have determined as willing recipients of the verball abuse being heaped on then.
Oh well, I could go on and on but what is the use. He isn’t going to read this and even if he does, he just wont get it. So, I guess that what I have come to see is that imus has no place on the airwaves of this or any other country. As much as I have enjoyed him on his show over the passing years (i realize that just admitting my enjoyment says something about me!) His supporters have to get over it. Maybe not as much fun.
Maybe just one more loss. I do know that the loss to those that have experienced his largess and willingness to stand up for those causes that he chose to fight for will be enormous. As we all turn away from him and get on with our lives, we will never forget those special moments that he gave to us.
The tregedy of course is that the benevolent dictators always lose and in losing, leave behind a trail of tears, not smiles.
He’s one of shock guys like at Fox News and CNN. CNN still has a few with credibility. If it weren’t for this medium there wouldn’t be news or information. I hope Imus goes off into the sunset…where he belongs…and I hope Bush goes with him.
See a tongue-in-cheek visual of Imus and his newfound buddy, Michael Richards, hanging out and counting sheep…here:
http://www.thoughttheater.com