So will Alberto Gonzales depart? Some opine he’s toast. Is it a matter of when, not if?
I love a two-fer one. It may end as a hat trick.
Democrats have said they will next week table a non-binding vote of no confidence, saying that Mr Gonzales is too weak to effectively run the US Justice Department. Meanwhile, more senior Republicans are speaking out and echoing the view that Mr Gonzales a long-time close ally of President George Bush should step down. On Thursday Senator Norm Coleman became the fifth Republican senator to demand that Mr Gonzales leave.
The White House has called next week’s scheduled no confidence vote a meaningless political act, but while it may be symbolic it would likely cause further problems for Mr Gonzales given his need to work with Congress on legislation. It could also create problems for the confirmation process of a new deputy for him, his current one having resigned over the firing of the prosecutors.”
Add his friend, Sen. Ken Salazar. Ouch, he has called for Gonzales to resign Let’s recall it was Salazar who endorsed Gonzales and introduced him at his confirmation hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee. When your friend won’t stand for you, stuff happens.
Is the No Confidence Vote a pump primer for Impeachment?
Could be, muses looseheadprop and Emptywheel over at Firedoglake
looseheadprop
“Wow, talk about public humiliation.
But I don’t think that is the point. I think the significance of this is to start getting Senators into shape for much more important votes that may be coming in future. If the “no confidence” vote comes in at the magic 67, we will have taken one more step closer to IMPEACHMENT TO CONVICTION.”
Emptywheel
“We need 66 votes, but with Joementum in our caucus and Senator Johnson still recuperating, that means we’re looking for 18 votes from Republicans on Wednesday, assuming the rest of our caucus remains loyal (hopefully, the Blue Dogs will look at the way Gonzales and Bush used and abused Pryor’s bipartisan good faith, and think seriously about supporting the no confidence vote).
A formidable task, certainly. But when you consider how many Republicans have already voiced their disapproval of Gonzales, are hopelessly implicated in the USA Scandal, or are up for a tough re-election in 2008, we’ve got plenty to work with.
In the meantime, here are my evolving thoughts of who, in the Republican caucus, might be persuaded to use the no confidence vote as a graceful way to escort Gonzales out of the Justice Department.” Read on
Where’s the smoking gun for Impeachment? Not yet found.
What brought this to a head? Surely, it wasn’t the caught in lies like a deer in headlights, or the 100-and-counting “I can’t recalls.” If Gonzales had an honest tongue, he’d say. `I don’t wanna recall. I’m only his concierge’ (hall-porter).
Was it the firings of the USAs? Or the as yet to be revealed program –what were they trying to get Ashcroft to sign off on when prior to surgery, he had transferred his authority to Mr. Comey? Or this.
Ya know what did it? I think it was his bedside manner. Yep, that will do it, works every time. That’s seen to be an over-reach, beyond the pale taking advantage of a critically ill man and, not to mention, a tad unethical if not illegal?
From TIME: (H/T: Crooks and Liars)
Was Gonzales’ Emergency Visit Illegal?
When then-White House counsel Alberto Gonzales went to John Ashcroft’s hospital room on the evening of March 10, 2004 to ask the ailing Attorney General to override Justice Department officials and reauthorize a secret domestic wiretapping program, he was acting inappropriately, Ashcroft’s deputy at the time, James Comey, testified before Congress earlier this week. But the question some lawyers, national security experts and Congressional investigators are now asking is: Was Gonzales in fact acting illegally?
Comey described what happened next: “The door opened and in walked Mr. Gonzales, carrying an envelope, and Mr. Card. They came over and stood by the bed. They greeted the Attorney General very briefly. And then Mr. Gonzales began to discuss why they were there — to seek his approval for a matter, and explained what the matter was — which I will not do.” Ashcroft bluntly rebuffed Gonzales, but Comey’s unwillingness publicly to say what Gonzales said in the hospital room has raised questions about whether Gonzales may have violated executive branch rules regarding the handling of highly classified information, and possibly the law preventing intentional disclosure of national secrets.
“Executive branch rules require sensitive classified information to be discussed in specialized facilities that are designed to guard against the possibility that officials are being targeted for surveillance outside of the workplace,” says Georgetown Law Professor Neal Katyal, who was National Security Advisor to the Deputy Attorney General under Bill Clinton.
“The hospital room of a cabinet official is exactly the type of target ripe for surveillance by a foreign power,” Katyal says. This particular information could have been highly sensitive. Says one government official familiar with the Terrorist Surveillance Program: “Since it’s that program, it may involve cryptographic information,” some of the most highly protected information in the intelligence community.[.]
ILLEGAL! The chief law enforcement officer. Oh my.
For those who have been away, the whole affair is called – take your pick:
“The Wednesday Night Ambush” Shades of Watergate: What did the President Know and When he knew it
But the irony here is this; it was the Washington Post that broke the Watergate story that brought down Nixon. In keeping with today’s techie, Wapo’s header reads ‘Caller ID’
“Caller ID: It’s not whether the president called. It’s what he did.”
“IT DOESN’T much matter whether President Bush was the one who phoned Attorney General John D. Ashcroft’s hospital room before the Wednesday Night Ambush in 2004. It matters enormously, however, whether the president was willing to have his White House aides try to strong-arm the gravely ill attorney general into overruling the Justice Department’s legal views. It matters enormously whether the president, once that mission failed, was willing nonetheless to proceed with a program whose legality had been called into question by the Justice Department. That is why Mr. Bush’s response to questions about the program yesterday was so inadequate.
“I’m not going to talk about it,” Mr. Bush told reporters at a news conference with departing British Prime Minister Tony Blair. “It’s a very sensitive program. I will tell you that, one, the program is necessary to protect the American people, and it’s still necessary because there’s still an enemy that wants to do us harm.”
No one is asking Mr. Bush to talk about classified information, and no one is discounting the terrorist threat. But there is a serious question here about how far Mr. Bush went to pressure his lawyers to implement his view of the law. There is an even more serious question about the president’s willingness, that effort having failed, to go beyond the bounds of what his own Justice Department found permissible. Go Read the whole thing.
(emphasis added)
After reading this piece, Wow! Let’s make it a two-fer. Gonzales’ stock is a sure in-the-money-short. And if he falls so does Bush. Watergate II.
Should Gonzales stay this scandal won’t go away. I can’t see BushCo leaving the No:2 spot vacant for the next 613 days. Any confirmation hearing for No:2 grows a whole new set of legs for the scandal. Drip, Drip.
More irony still. Ya know all that puff that we bloggers just regurgitate…. It was blogger, Josh Marshall at Talking Points Memo who broke this USAGs scandal. Josh doggedly kept at it, with help from his readers reporting in, until those lazy MSMs and Congress took notice.
Who said we’re not worth our weight in golden gigabytes?
Hopeful as we count.
Donald Rumsfeld – off to Create a Research foundation To Teach About `U.S. Engagement In World Affairs’
John Bolton – still on the attack, happily over there where defending the invasion doesn’t wash.
I Scooter Libby – convicted and in-waiting for a pardon.
Paul Wolfowitz – attempting to spin away his scent of scandal and forced departure.
Alberto Gonzales – getting thumbs down from former classmates, friends and foes.
did I miss any at the senior level?
Highly recommended diary. You brought the strands together nicely, TYVM.
Abu doesn’t have many friends left, even the rank and file are turning on him. He appears to be almost as unpopular as wolfowitz was at the WB…but even more incompetent.
and how are they going to find anyone to fill the #2 spot when McNulty leaves?
…probably a Regent grad somewhere willing to do the lords work.
If Gonzo goes, aWol’s in deep caca….and l don’t think he can do a recess appointment for the AG. AG stays, or they go down together. Once again it’s the coverup that starts unravelling.
Beginning to feel like the old Whack-a-Mole game in amusement park arcades.
lTMF’sA
Dada, thanks for that link. No.2 spot, a hard job to fill, harder than finding a war czar.. especially with wounded Gonzo at the helm… what self-respecting person would lower the bar?
Thing is Dem leadership lack communicating skillsets and is perceived to be folding?
I’m counting on Senator Pat Leahy (from my neck of the woods). He can’t do this alone. Wednesday we’ll have a better idea.
Keep the popcorn in reserve.
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ya…shur….
H/T Bob Geiger Saturday Cartoons
lTMF’sA
The countdown has begun:
Corrente: Gonzales Does Whatever a Spider Can “Nothing to see here, folks. Nothing to see here. Please don’t touch the dessicated corpses!”
Atrios notes: Gergen Says Abu G Will Go
“Sooner rather than later,” he just said on CNN. That’s his opinion, of course, but Gergen is the mouthpiece of the Republican faction of the Wise Old Men of Washington.”
TPM reminds us beyond the No Confidence vote, Senate Judiciary Committee hearings continue early June. ‘Kansas City US Attorney Todd Graves will tell his story.’
The longer Abu Gonzo hangs in there, the weaker the preisdent and the GOP. Recall, they’re the law and order party.
The Dems won’t.
Sadly.
Not unless Butch directly confronts them in a dangerously serious constitutional crisis/coup situation.
The old “For the good of the country” meme is in full effect here.
Bet on it.
They will make him the lamest of lame ducks and then use that lameness as a weapon to ensure a landslide victory in ’08.
That is plainly their plan.
And the Ratpubs are stuck between a rock and a hard place. It might actually be in their best interests to get rid of the fool. Should they totally repudiate the actions of this administration, they MIGHT win a few more votes in ’08. Not enough to win the presidency. but enough to survive as a party. Or…they might not. Stay the course and keep a stiff upper lip through the inevitable Dem win in ’08 and then they can start burrowing again. Maybe they can catch Hillary in the closet with her maid or the pool boy or something…her maid AND the pool boy…and turn things around again. That’s the way their rattish little minds work.
I think that the Rats will do the cowardly thing…on the evidence of every other action that they have or have not taken since the Nixon/Reagan years…and just stonewall through the natural end of Butch’s disastrous reign.
The problem with ALL of this…? It leaves ButchCo a chance or two more to pull their fat out of the fire with a major move.
Another 9/11?
A staged Gulf of Tonkin-like event with Iraq?
Taking advantage of some sort of unforeseeable domestic emergency?
Who knows?
They have without a doubt produced any number of “new realities” out of thin air in the past 7 years or so. When there are a true infinity’s worth of such realities available to them, who can predict where they will strike?
My own preference?
Take ’em out of the game.
Take their new reality capabilities totally away from them.
Ain’t gonna happen, though.
And as usual…those of us who know the collective truth of the matter are left with only one option.
Let us pray.
Later…
AG
I wouldn’t give up just yet. The ‘Ratpubs’ (btw, apt descriptive) are suffering an identity crisis with the Dems still searching for a communicating tool kit.
We’ll see what the other testimonies give. Even without continued hearings, from what we read, morale at the DOJ is as bad as moral was at the World Bank under Wolfowitz.
If Gonzo goes, so does Rove and Bush. With 600+ days to go. What are our options?
AIN’T no “our” in this system.
When are y’all going to get it?
Just “Them I” + “Them II”.
And if you like Ratpubs, how about my name for the other party?
DemRats.
Or the real ONE party.
The DemocRatpublican Party.
Sorry, idredit.
I no longer believe.
On the evidence.
On HUGE amounts of evidence. JFK
The assassinations evidence. The Initial Assassinations.. RFK, MLK and Mr. Malcolm X. Too bad they coudn’t off ol’ J. Edgar at the same time. Or LBJ while they were at it.
On Vietnam evidence.
Iran/Contra evidence.
The running of a feeble-minded old man by Vice President Bush evidence.
The running of Bush’s equally feeble-minded son by Cheney and Rove evidence.
The 2000 + 2004 vote theft evidence.
The 9/11 evidence.
The totally bogus invasion of Iraq evidence.
It’s all right there lying belly-up in front of EVERYONE”S eyes.
But what have/are/will the so-called opposition party do when it was/is/will be in power?
String the bastards up?
Make sure that it does not happen again?
HELL no!!!
Plan A Lite.
That’s what we get.
Plan A Lite.
A kindfer, gentler economic imperialism.
With 600+ days to go, our options are as follows.
Keep trying to get the truth out.
And accept even partial success…which is what we have had up until now…as a godsend.
We cannot reform this mess.
But maybe we CAN steer it a couple of degrees off of its ongoing course towards iceberg waters.
That is our option.
Keep paddling, baby.
Keep paddling.
AG
the stench of sulfur is becoming quite alarming!
This morning the talking potatoes raised the focus on Abu Gonzales:
Shorter Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell has a mystery resolution to counter No Confidence Vote; Senator Schumer’s count has 60 senators for.
AND
Senator Arlen Specter opines on CBS’ Face The Nation today that Gonzales will likely resign before the No Confidence Vote. Watch the Video
(via Thinkprogress)
Will Arlen cave, Again?
When has he not caved…he likes to sound tough or like he has some sort of backbone and when it comes down to it he just rolls over and plays dead once again. As ‘they’ say…talk is cheap. I’m way way way past listening to empty talk and want some action or they may as well just shut the hell up.
MSM is running with the soundbite, Specter saying there’s a significant number of Republicans who will join the No Confidence Vote this week.
A Gonzo exit over this scandal is huge. It is thought Abu may hang in there to protect Shrub and Rove. All in all, a messy few weeks ahead. More testimony coming from USAs and Monica Goodling.
abu’s not going anywhere idredit, he’s the firewall….the only thing standing between aWol and impeachment…the AG serves at the pleasure of the president.
BushCo™ issues another ‘fuck you‘ to the congress and the american people and life goes on.
there is no remedy shorth of impeachment of chimpy and it ain’t happening. l’ve spent more time searching for an alternative way to get rid of the bastad than l care to admit, but short of a criminal indictment, there ain’t one that l can find. the ‘vote of confidence‘ is political theatre.
he will not resign, he will not be fired, he ain’t going away…he will be with us for the remaining 600± days, or however long these guys last.
and l got news for those people who think there’s a constitional crisis looming, it’s already here.
l don’t like it any more than you do, but them’s the breaks.
lTMF’sA