There is a reason why the Democratic senators least inclined to vote for the Reid-Feingold bill calling for a cut-off of funds for Iraq were members of the Armed Services Committee.
First, I’ll demonstrate the truth of this statement. Twenty-nine of forty-nine (59%) voting Democrats voted for the Reid-Feingold amendment. Meanwhile, only four of thirteen (including Lieberman) Democratic members of the Armed Services committee did so. That’s 31%. To make this even clearer, of the thirty-six members of the Democratic caucus that are not serving on Armed Services, fully 25 voted for the amendment (69%). Why the discrepancy?
It’s both simple and complicated. The complicated part involves understanding the true nature of the American empire, our vast number of foreign bases, leases, contractual agreements, assets…and the policies (developed under both Poppy Bush and Bill Clinton) and strategies underpinning those bases.
The simple part is that the people that worked out those strategies (at least insofar that Congress played an important role) sit on the Armed Services committee and know that the Iraq War complicates and puts at risk the entire enterprise. These Senators are in charge of overseeing this vast overseas empire and they are feeling very insecure about how we can best manage the fallout from Iraq without putting those assets and agreements at risk.
And it isn’t just a risk that failure in Iraq will lead to insurgencies and attacks in other foreign lands. It isn’t just that a failure to keep commitments in Iraq will undermine the value of our word and credibility with other allies. It’s the domestic front, too. How will Americans react to failure? Will they finally embrace the logic of Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul? Paul explained why we were attacked on 9/11 in a recent debate.
“They attack us because we’ve been over there. We’ve been bombing Iraq for 10 years. We’ve been in the Middle East [for years]. I think (Ronald) Reagan was right. We don’t understand the irrationality of Middle Eastern politics. Right now, we’re building an embassy in Iraq that is bigger than the Vatican. We’re building 14 permanent bases. What would we say here if China was doing this in our country or in the Gulf of Mexico? We would be objecting.”
The 9/11 attacks were intended to act as a wake-up call to ordinary Americans about what our government is doing abroad. They wanted us to look into it (which many did for the first time) and they wanted us to know that there would be an unacceptable cost to continuing with the same policies. They didn’t attack us for our freedom, as Bush likes to say. It was a purely political act.
Murdering 3,000 innocent Americans is not, in any way, a justifiable act, and the perpetrators were not freedom fighters or small (d) democrats. Their crimes could not go unpunished, nor could their demands be acceded to. But the attacks should have started an honest assessment about which of our policies gave rise to the threat and how many of them were necessary or could be changed to lesson the threat. Unfortunately, an honest assessment would have led the American people to question the necessity, wisdom, and cost of our foreign basing strategy. And that is precisely what the members of our foreign policy establishment (of both parties, and most certainly the Armed Services committees) did not want.
You can see their reasoning very clearly in an opinion column in today’s Wall Street Journal by former Democratic Senator Bob Kerrey. He will lay out the stakes of a withdrawal from Iraq, but nowhere will he even
broach the subject of blowback.
Kerrey lays out a flawed case for invading Iraq by refusing to see blowback as an inevitable cost of doing business the way we have been doing business (in the past or as a result of invading Iraq).
Let me restate the case for this Iraq war from the U.S. point of view. The U.S. led an invasion to overthrow Saddam Hussein because Iraq was rightly seen as a threat following Sept. 11, 2001. For two decades we had suffered attacks by radical Islamic groups but were lulled into a false sense of complacency because all previous attacks were “over there.” It was our nation and our people who had been identified by Osama bin Laden as the “head of the snake.” But suddenly Middle Eastern radicals had demonstrated extraordinary capacity to reach our shores.
Then Kerrey lays out a case that we must push for democracy in Iraq.
Suppose we had not invaded Iraq and Hussein had been overthrown by Shiite and Kurdish insurgents. Suppose al Qaeda then undermined their new democracy and inflamed sectarian tensions to the same level of violence we are seeing today. Wouldn’t you expect the same people who are urging a unilateral and immediate withdrawal to be urging military intervention to end this carnage? I would.
American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it. Al Qaeda in particular has targeted for abduction and murder those who are essential to a functioning democracy: school teachers, aid workers, private contractors working to rebuild Iraq’s infrastructure, police officers and anyone who cooperates with the Iraqi government. Much of Iraq’s middle class has fled the country in fear.
With these facts on the scales, what does your conscience tell you to do? If the answer is nothing, that it is not our responsibility or that this is all about oil, then no wonder today we Democrats are not trusted with the reins of power.
I want to interject one more quote in here as kind of an aside, because it explains exactly why I oppose doing anything about Darfur.
The critics who bother me the most are those who ordinarily would not be on the side of supporting dictatorships, who are arguing today that only military intervention can prevent the genocide of Darfur, or who argued yesterday for military intervention in Bosnia, Somalia and Rwanda to ease the sectarian violence that was tearing those places apart.
I, for one, am not guilty of his alleged hypocrisy. I don’t think we should intervene in foreign countries to stop civil wars except under a very stringent set of conditional circumstances. In any circumstance where someone is asking us to intervene, I ask myself a simple question. Why us? Why not Norway or China or Canada? Give me health care first, improve our schools, then come ask me to to take the lead on policing the world.
But, going back to our subject, these are precisely the types of sentiments that our foreign policy establishment does not want us to have. Yet, here we are, facing down a profound failure on the part of our foreign policy establishment (including the mainstream media) and they are trying to avoid accountability and consequences.
And this leads me to my last point on this. Bush and Cheney are responsible for getting us into this mess and they are incapable of getting us out of it. We have to look at current affairs through the prism of a foreign policy establishment that doesn’t want the fallout from Iraq to damage our arrangements with other regional allies. And this could happen either because our regional allies lose confidence in us or because the American people insist that we cancel existing arrangements and re-orient our forward leaning basing policies. The circumstances require careful diplomacy and reassurance of our allies (including demonstrations of resolve and the ability to keep committments) and they require a careful manipulation of domestic opinion (mainly through the maintenance of a prism of a pervasive threat of terrorism). The last part involves the ‘we must fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them here’ mantra, which doesn’t even make a facial amount of sense.
Recognizing this, the foreign policy establishment produced the Baker-Hamilton report which aimed to cover them on both the foreign and domestic fronts. When I saw the Bush administration reject the Baker-Hamilton report I knew that the survival of their administration was in deep jeopardy and expected the innards of the Republican-led bureaucracy to begin leaking impeachable-level stuff to the press and Congress. I haven’t been totally disappointed, although I have been surprised at the tenacity of the administration and their continuing ability to keep Congress on board. And I believe I now have an explanation.
The foreign policy establishment is in a vice. They are terrified of a withdrawal from Iraq, but they are particularly terrified of attempting it under the current administration. The Democrats in the establishment would greatly prefer to leave it to a Democrat to oversee the diplomacy and management of withdrawal and the Republicans want the bipartisan cover of leaving the withdrawal to the Democrats. The result?
What we see now. Damaging information is leaking out to keep Bush-Cheney weak and unable to escalate and worsen the situation. But absent a slam-dunk case for dual-impeachment, no one wants to force a withdrawal under this administration’s supervision. They simply can not or will not do the types of things necessary to limit the foreign and domestic fallout of a withdrawal…and that could screw up the whole imperial strategy they have developed in the post-Cold War world.
there is so much that I could comment on Boo but I will limit myself to one — when comparing what has been going on in Darfur to what is going on in Iraq is absolutely ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as kerrys’ position that we are there and thus can’t just leave.
Darfur is “genocide”. Iraq is “civil War”.
Darfur must be stopped at all costs and that includes and interjection of US supported troops with simple instructions- Stop The Killing of the defenseless!
Iraq must be vacated. Announce departure plan- notify all that any attempt to interere of harrass or attack will be met with horrendous punishment– just stand back and watch. Notification to the Iraqi government that future assistance can be negotiated but it will only be “NGO” type assistance.
Iraq requires pullout immediately
Darfur requires interjection immediately.
Kerry requires either shunning or dismissal immediately
that makes no sense to me. There is no solution to Darfur short of long-term foreign occupation. Why us? Why should we do it? Why should we pay for it? What on earth will compensate us for another unending costly occupation of a Muslim dominated country? I don’t care if you want to define it as an (unevenly matched) civil war or a simple genocide, we should only intervene if there is a solution. And an endless occupation is not a solution I’m willing to pay for. Sorry.
This is precisely the type of thinking that got us bogged down in Vietnam and in Iraq. It is, perhaps, our job to lead a coalition of free nations against anyone that would violate the territorial sovereignty of an United Nations member that is in good standing. If so, we shouldn’t pay more than our fair share for the costs. Let me see a solution to Darfur that doesn’t involve a long-term commitment of U.S. troops (with attendant costs and blowback) and I’ll consider supporting it. Until then, I’m one liberal that is sick and tired of the thankless and astronomically costly responsibility for policing the internal affairs of foreign nations.
we should only intervene if there is a solution
There is a solution, though no one seems to be discussing it, and that is partitioning the state along religious lines.
that’s enough to make my head explode.
Wiki:
From the footnote:
I used to feel that way about Bosnia, why was it our repsonsiblity? Ultimately I came to support Clinton’s policy, but only becuase it was obvious that it was carefully planed and thought out. Also, I was genuinely afraid of a Turkish/Russian confrontation.
Nothing good can happen while Bush is in office.
I ask myself a simple question. Why us? Why not Norway or China or Canada?
It could be because Norway, China, and Canada are not capable of significant force projection. Arguably, only the US, the UK, and France (in steeply descending order) still have the ability to intervene across oceans now that the Russian navy is moribund.
I think we should intervene in places like Darfur to save lives, and stop intervening where our only real motivation is to make a quick buck, like Iraq. Not every hard luck case warrants foreign intervention, but some do. Sudan should have been partitioned years ago.
It’s worth pointing out that without intervention, the former Yugoslav states might still be caught in a multi-way war, and had Europe and the US intervened sooner, we might not now still be excavating mass graves.
Isolationism simply breeds more bloodshed in the long run because it reinforces the self-absorbed tribalism that makes it possible for people to contemplate murdering their neighbors in the first place.
I pretty much agree with your assessment of the empire protection scheme. That’s not what prompts me to write this.
I agree that we shouldn’t be the world’s police force, and I argue that we can’t fill that role because of our actions in Iraq. I don’t buy the BS that people like Kerrey push saying we had to invade Iraq because of 9/11.
Wars of aggression constitute crimes against the peace and are considered war crimes. Had we produced a compelling case for invading Iraq, that is had we produced evidence of WMD’s and evidence of delivery systems and evidence of a plan to attack us or other peaceful nations, I believe the UN would have backed another invasion of Iraq and the US wouldn’t be open to crimes against the peace charges. When we invaded Iraq, we violated international law. The world will not trust us as its police force any more than we trust the Bush administration to uphold our laws and Constitution. As I wrote earlier, I agree with your assessment of our leaders motives, the question I don’t know the answer to is whether my countrymen agree with the policy of seeking power at the expense of justice…
We are losing far more credibility staying in Iraq than we will ever lose if we leave.
The “credibility” argument is one shibboleth that needs to be put to rest. I heard the same arguments back during the Vietnam war era. Then, as now, we lost credibility by continuing the war, not by ending it. A weakened and overstretched military does far more to limit our credibility than staying in Iraq ever will. Not to mention the loss of soft power (diplomatic, economic, etc.) that Iraq has seriously damaged. When we leave Iraq is when we can start the process of restoring that power, which has always been a more effective use of our “strengths” as a nation than force of arms.
The reason these Armed Services folks are concerned is probably more a matter of “honor” or “pride” than rational conclusions reached after much soul searching and debate. I suspect the real fear driving their decision is the concern that they and the Democratic party will be labeled weak on defense, and tarred with having “lost” Iraq. That’s another bullshit issue but I don’t have time for it today.
The reason these Armed Services folks are concerned is probably more a matter of “honor” or “pride” than rational conclusions…
Gabriel Kolko has written about how the people who started a war respond to defeat:
these two explanations (mine and Steven’s) are not incompatible at all. But there is no way we can understand our current situation unless we understand that the establishment trust Bush to continue the war more than they trust him to navigate its ending.
I don’t think its a matter of trust at all. It’s simply avoiding responsibility. Congress could act, but they have chosen not to. They prefer any President, even one as foolish, inane, misguided, venal and corrupt as this one, making these decisions because they are afraid of the blame being assigned to them if they do act.
In some respects its an institutional loss of will and power on the part of the Senate. In other respects (for the Democrats, at least) its the cold political calculation that it’s better for Bush to fuck Iraq up, because 2008 will then be better for them in an electoral sense. But this has been going on for a long time now. The Senate has gone from being a major foreign policy player to being simply the rubber stamp for what the President wants to do. There are very few (if any) statesmen left in the upper house of our Congress.
I didn’t even see these as two different explanations. Yes, the foreign party establishment wants to stay in Iraq because leaving would be a serious blow to America’s mode of empire, but believing that desire can still be realized is not rational.
there is no way we can understand our current situation unless we understand that the establishment trust Bush to continue the war more than they trust him to navigate its ending.
I’m not sure how much insight this line of thought gives us into what is going on. If the establishment trusts Bush at all to continue the war, that is not rational, because every move he takes just makes things worse. Furthermore, the war is unwinnable, so that the longer the U.S. remains in Iraq, the more its interests are damaged. Therefore, it is not rational not to begin leaving now. And the means to do so are readily available: impeachment.
no one wants to force a withdrawal under this administration’s supervision.
Yes, that’s true, but I would put it like this. Given how intransigent this administration is, I think it’s clear to everyone that it is not possible to force the administration to withdraw. It’s not so much that the administration would do more harm if it started to withdraw under duress than it would do by staying as that taking measures to get it to withdraw would do more damage domestically than is now being done to the U.S. by the continued occupation.
I have the feeling that if Congress cut off funding, the only way to end the occupation at present other than impeachment, Bush would still not submit to the will of Congress. He would continue his war simply by brazenly breaking the law some more. I think that that’s what the establishment understands, not that Bush would do more harm by leaving than by staying.
The situation is like the following. Say you’ve got a teenage son that is hell bent on seeing his favorite group, which is about to give a concert. The only way he could get there, since he doesn’t have a car or a license and you don’t think that he should listen to that group, is by starting to drive there while you were giving him a driving lesson. So he gets on the freeway and starts driving at 90 m.p.h. At that point, there is nothing you can do, even though you pay all the bills. So long as the driver is in the driver’s seat, you cannot force him to drive where he does not want to drive. It is the same with a rogue president and a war.
As you have been arguing, the problem of ending the war has now become inseparable from the need for impeachment. So the real question is why the establishment prefers to continue the war, which causes more damage to everybody the longer it goes on, rather than bringing the carnage to an end and impeaching.
I think that the answer to this question is that if it turns out to be necessary to impeach a president in order to end a war, the extent to which the American political system is broken will become so revealed that it will be impossible for anyone to deny it. Impeaching Bush would destroy the current order.
Just yesterday, Nicholas Kristof wrote that “Even if a single-payer system isn’t politically possible right now, universal coverage is feasible through other mechanisms”. Well if it were politically possible to end the war by impeaching Bush, why shouldn’t it be politically possible to create a single-payer system? That is the fundamental reason why the establishment will not force this war to an end: it is so that what is politically possible continues to be what the wealthy and the corporations say it is. It is so that the government’s following the will of the people continues to be politically impossible.
Wow, a very thoughtful, insightful discussion. Thank you, BooMan, Steven and others.