Well, DUH….But let’s not let Ann Coulter suggest who we would attack.
Disclaimer: I know this is an absolute preposterous suggestion, and it would never happen, let alone the myriad of differences between this blatantly outrageous scenario and current events (or facts like Venezuela having all of that sweet, sweet oil and not needing to invade another country over, or the fact that Syria and Iran and Saudi Arabia and Iraq and Pakistan all have a very different history and interest or the fact that those interests don’t generally coincide with those of the US and yes, Saddam and Ahmadinejad and Hezbullah and Bandar and Musharraf are all different from our relationship with Mexico, or even Venezuela).
But it is in the same ballpark.
We certainly have economic and political interests in Mexico – right wrong or other. Cheap labor after NAFTA led to better corporate profits for those who have too much influence in how our government works. Illegal immigration here in the US from Mexico and a bit of a tiff going on now as to how best address this “matter”. And there was that brief “dust up” back in the mid 1800’s – just to throw in a bit of drama and history.
Chavez, of course, with his “new bestest friend, Iran”, is one of the leaders in the race for the new Public Enemy No. 1. And with Iran THISCLOSE to getting nukes (just ask Condi, she was right on the ball as National Security Advisor about Iraq and “smoking guns”), we can’t have an alliance where someone who invaded our neighbor (even if it wasn’t based on lies and deception) is buddies with someone who doesn’t have, may have an outside chance at having, could have, probably has, definitely, DEFINITELY has nukes.
And you just KNOW that Bush would never act like that wussy, skirt chasing Democrat (no, not Clinton) did when it came to WMDs being so close to the homeland. Of course, back then, the entire US military and National Guard weren’t off occupying another country and smuggling in nukes or other WMDs via the ports, air cargo holds or railways wasn’t so easy due to the lack of the ability, means, motive or complete lack of real Homeland Security. But that little factor is a story for a different day.
Jeez, the talking meatsticks would be way, um, “happier” than some of you were yesterday. “Leftist Chavez censors own media” (regardless of whether it is right or wrong) is shouted from the rooftops already. The Washington Post has already used the words “The Next Castro?” and “anti-Americanism” in an article just last year.
How far off would we be from “Anti-american communist Chavez in Nuke Deal with Iran”? Oh wait, we are already there too….
Would the US stand by and let this “Freedom hating, oil hoarding, Communist, Socialist, America hater” try and take over Mexico and ruin all of that cheap labor opportunity for Corporate ‘Murka™, and have even more of those terrible people who (GASP!!) don’t speak English flood our borders, steal more of the jobs that “Americans won’t do” and drain our economy further? And I bet they would support of gay marriage too.
Would Bush fund anti-Chavez Venezuelan factions and try to overthrow Chavez to install our own “preferred regime” and have access to more and more of that sweet sweet oil – all in the name of “freeing the Venezuelans? After all, it isn’t like we haven’t already heard that possibility being talked about.
Or would he stand firmly to make sure that his buddy Fox kept power, no matter what? Since, Mexico could always learn a thing or two about elections from this administration.
A third option could be to listen to the religious fundies and recognize the opportunity to have a “preferred religion” impact Mexico.
We could also train those who want to overthrow Chavez or even arm them against Chavez – or just not do it and say we did. Better yet, why not help Chavez with his own nuclear program.
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And to think, we haven’t been at war with Mexico for the past, oh, say, forever and have an issue with a foreign hated occupier who has blown off calls of assistance three times since 2001. Or doesn’t have thousands of refugees flooding their border (well, we do already have people who are more than willing to shoot ‘em all, one by one, as they cross the border. But we can debate whether Iran should have nukes, whether Syria is too involved in Lebanon, or that Mexico only has cheap labor and no sweet, sweet oil.
What country wouldn’t try to do something if they just were coming out of a multi-decades old religious war and saw the chance to influence it? What country would turn a blind eye to a complete disaster, civil war and genocide right over their border? Who wouldn’t be concerned if other neighboring countries were funding the opposition and it was being overlooked by the occupying country?
What country would sit on their hands when the occupying force blew off talks and then lied about it?
And none of this describes Chavez, Venezuela or Mexico. How stupid or evil are these people who dictate our foreign policy?
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And Boo, I really hope that
youyour friend is doing better.and if bulls flew, maybe chimpy would have gotten a good load of something more apropos in the rose garden the other day.
clammy, l usually look forward to, and enjoy your writing…but wtf inspired this?!
…”I know this is an absolute [sic] preposterous suggestion…“
yep
jezeus, there’s more than enough of this kind of bs floated in the right blogosphere, without any help from the progressive side.
l can’t even begin to organize any cohesive thoughts around this, other than to ask:
what’s your point? are you striving to become the “coultergiste” of the “progressives”, or are you just bored? there’s a lot going on out there that’s a damn sight more important than fantasies and “what ifs”, imnsho.
and btw, Felipe Calderon is the current president of Mexico…just to pick a nit.
l want a refund of the 3¢…this makes no ¢ at all.
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For starters, I know that Calderon is the current president – the link is to electoral shenanigans with Fox. That is why I left Fox’s name there. But I guess if you want to find a way to get a dig in, then it really doesn’t matter where it comes from.
Secondly, with all of there is out there to write about, and all that I do write about (around 5 posts every week for well over the past year), and all that I have been writing about, I felt like writing something different.
And I don’t need a lecture on what or how to write – I have more than earned the right to write about whatever I want without being insulted like you did. And I certainly have more than enough credibility that a post like this (as with one that I did about white Christians being burned as they left church in Boston) that takes the “what if” side to point out hypocrisy.
So you didn’t like it – your comments comparing me to Ann Coulter are way out of line and for all I contribute, it is quite an insult.
Tough room, or else a wingnut has invaded. Your point, clammyc, isn’t that difficult to comprehend. But you could have mentioned what our reactioncwould be to permanent Venezuelan military bases in Mexico, you know, for those that think a bit slower…..
War is peace, and we have ALWAYS been at war with
IranEastasia.exactly. I was almost surprised to not see another reply to my comment, being that I didn’t spell out the “this is what is happening with Iraq, Iran and the US now” line.
But oh well, it is what it is. Glad that every other person that read this diary (wherever it was posted) noticed the obvious…..
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