If you haven’t noticed a new level of saber-rattling at Iran, you haven’t been paying attention. Just look at today’s Jerusalem Post. It’s in this context that columnist Joe Klein, who is Jewish, made a controversial remark:
The fact that a great many Jewish neoconservatives–people like Joe Lieberman and the crowd over at Commentary–plumped for this war, and now for an even more foolish assault on Iran, raised the question of divided loyalties: using U.S. military power, U.S. lives and money, to make the world safe for Israel.
In response, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) accused Joe Klein of anti-Semitism.
…The notion that Jews with “divided loyalties” were behind the decision to go to war is reminiscent of age-old anti-Semitic canards about a Jewish conspiracy to control and manipulate government….We are disappointed that a respected and thoughtful writer of your caliber you would resort to such stereotyping.
I was impressed with Joe Klein’s response:
…there is now, in my opinion, an even more dangerous tendency among Jewish neoconservatives to encourage a pre-emptive attack on Iran’s nuclear program. Their gleeful, intellectual warmongering—given the vast dangers and complexities of an attack on Iran–is nauseating….
I am disappointed, but not surprised, by your claim of antisemitism. But that’s what you do for a living, isn’t it? I find your “outrage” particularly galling because the people you defend are constantly spewing canards against those who favor talking to the Palestinians, or who don’t favor witless bellicosity when it comes to Iran. Their campaign of defamation has cost people jobs, damaged reputations and careers. I am very tired of having reasonable people accused of being “soft on terrorism” or “unpatriotic” or favoring “surrender”–Joe Lieberman’s favorite—by Jewish neoconservatives who seem to have a neurotic need to prove their toughness….
Imagine me defending Joe Klein!! But he really couldn’t have said it any better. There is always a risk of falling into casual yet harmful stereotypes when discussing Israel or Israel’s influence over American foreign policy. But there isn’t any question that Americans that are very concerned for Israel’s safety are more willing to sacrifice American lives and money to attack Iran than people who are very concerned with the safety of, say, the Ukraine. And the same was true with the authorization to use military force in Iraq. Christian Israelphiles and Jewish neo-conservatives were the driving force behind the Iraq War and they are the driving force behind the push to bomb Iran. That much shouldn’t even be controversial, but pointing it out results in accusations of anti-semitism. Is it anti-Semitic to point out that, say, Caroline Glick has some divided loyalties?
…Jerusalem Post deputy managing editor Caroline Glick [is] an American-Israeli with strong Zionist convictions…
…in nearly every dispatch, Glick conveys either a subtle or even strong sense of frustration with her Israeli and Jewish-American audiences that refuse to wake up to the dangers that loom in the Middle East. Her first book, a well-structured compendium of her columns, may sadly serve as a map for the road not taken in the fight against radical Islam.
The seemingly endless Palestinian war against Israel is perhaps the greatest source of frustration for Glick. Several of her most compelling pieces hammer home the fact that the “Palestinian goal today is genocide,” and their “central organizing principle is the physical elimination of the Jewish people.” This should be obvious to most readers of Middle Eastern affairs. Yet a majority of American Jews and even Israelis continue to hold out hope for peace.
The author soundly rejects the notion that even the sweetest US or Israeli incentives can prod the Palestinians toward peace. She observes that the Palestinian people receive “more aid per capita than any people on earth” but prefer “poverty, violence and war to prosperity.” This applies to all Palestinians; while Hamas is typically vilified for its gruesome acts of terror, we cannot forget that Fatah maintains “goals that are incompatible with the continued existence of the State of Israel.” In other words, it has become impossible to separate the “general Palestinian population from those involved in terrorism.”
She arrives at the sound conclusion that “Palestinian society itself must be transformed before there is to be peaceful coexistence.”
Glick sums up Israel’s security predicament succinctly: Israel must find the “courage to recognize that security, not peace,” is the ultimate goal. Yet, she observes that her country is suffering from a “lack of outrage,” and Israelis have “gotten used to being killed.” She therefore yearns for Israel to win its security through a show of force on the battlefield.
Glick is an American-Israeli, but it is hard to see any difference between her goals and obsessions and those of William Kristol or Joe Lieberman. They see the world in fundamentally the same way. The merit of that worldview doesn’t depend on the ethnicity or religious beliefs of the person holding it. That’s not the point. It’s not a defense to point out that some gentile in the Bush administration holds the same worldview. If attacking Iran is a dangerous, uncertain, and unjustified act, and you nevertheless go about advocating such an attack in a cavalier manner, then you’re a dangerous person. And if you happen to be a Jewish-American who is making that argument, you know for certain that, as Joe Klein said, you will “raise the question of divided loyalties: using U.S. military power, U.S. lives and money, to make the world safe for Israel.”
It’s impossible to read people’s minds. No one knows why Dick Cheney and Joe Lieberman agree so much on our policy towards Iran. No one would suggest that Dick Cheney divides his loyalties between Israel and America. For the same reason, it would be unfair to assume that the only explanation for Lieberman’s ‘witless bellicosity’ is his Jewishness. It may not be the only explanation. But it would be foolish to think that Lieberman isn’t thinking of Israel’s interests when he advocates a hard-line with Iran. Lieberman’s foreign policy ‘raises the question’, as Joe Klein said. You’d think that the ADL would understand this, particularly since their protest is based on the exact same kind of argumentative construct.
They worry about comments like Joe Klein’s because they are “reminiscent of age-old anti-Semitic canards about a Jewish conspiracy to control and manipulate government.” In other words, Klein’s comments created an appearance problem. How is that any different from what Klein said about Lieberman and other Jewish-American proponents of attacking Iran?
I grow weary of every foreign policy problem getting blamed by the left on the American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), but do you think we didn’t notice when Barack Obama made his first post-nomination appearance before AIPAC and said:
There is no greater threat to Israel – or to the peace and stability of the region – than Iran. Now this audience is made up of both Republicans and Democrats, and the enemies of Israel should have no doubt that, regardless of party, Americans stand shoulder-to- shoulder in our commitment to Israel’s security. So while I don’t want to strike too partisan a note here today, I do want to address some willful mischaracterizations of my positions.
The Iranian regime supports violent extremists and challenges us across the region. It pursues a nuclear capability that could spark a dangerous arms race, and raise the prospect of a transfer of nuclear know-how to terrorists. Its President denies the Holocaust and threatens to wipe Israel off the map. The danger from Iran is grave, it is real, and my goal will be to eliminate this threat.
Needless to say, the left in this country has more than one quibble with Obama’s characterization of the threat posed by Iran and his expressed foreign policy. For starters, the biggest threat to Israel is probably demographic and internal. The second biggest threat is their own policy, which seeks to avoid peace and rely in perpetuity on America’s good will and largesse. Their third biggest threat probably emanates from Pakistan’s nuclear weapons program. Iran does indeed hector Israel through its support of Palestinian resistance groups and through their occasionally bellicose rhetoric. And, if they were to actually produce a nuclear weapon sometime in the future, they would present the same kind of vague threat that Pakistan presents today. Obama exaggerates the threat posed by Iran as a way to reassure the AIPAC audience that he is serious about protecting Israel’s security. And that’s the problem. Pandering of this sort, when it distorts the facts and exaggerates the threats, winds up making American foreign policy fundamentally irrational. It creates the illusion that there is a bipartisan consensus that it makes sense to carry out a pre-emptive attack on Iran.
The worst error in all of this is the idea that attacking Iran will actually serve Israel’s interests. Did attacking Lebanon serve their interests? Did attacking Iraq serve their interests? The answer is no. What’s at issue here is more than appearances. There is a lobby for hijacking American foreign policy in the interests of Israel’s foreign policy, and that lobby is incredibly effective. And the problem is worse than a divergence between America’s and Israel’s interests. This policy doesn’t serve either country’s interests. Most American Jews will tell you that.
No one has done more to fan the flames of anti-semitism in the West than AIPAC, the Israeli right, and now the ADL. AIPAC’s propaganda reflects the views of a small minority of American Jews, yet it has won power far out of proportion to its constituency, largely through incessantly pimping out the Holocaust and screaming “anti-semite” at anyone who opposes it ironically neo-fascist agenda. It’s time to bring it down a peg.
It is an extremely good sign. Good for Joe Klein, although I hold to my theory that this is nothing so much as a rat leaving a sinking ship.
AIPAC and the neo-cons are where the Soviet Union was in 1989, in the last throes.
Ironically, this is the same column in which Joe Klein inartfully stated (about The Surge):
With that kind of luck…
In calling out the ADL’s support of the neo-cons, Klein has (perhaps inadvertantly) called out Abe Foxman’s long-standing role in the (right-supporting) Israel Lobby. It is not just the ADL, but Foxman, who responds to Klein’s column. Using the “best defense is a good offense” strategy, Foxman attacks Klein rather than addressing his criticism. Indeed, considering Foxman’s long history, it’s no surprise that he wants to deflect attention from his role in the build-up to Iraq, not only his support of the neo-cons but his aggressive advocacy. Perhaps the FBI’s investigation of Rosen at AIPAC is making some other leaders of the Israel Lobby especially nervous on the subject of “dual loyalty.”
I think I have to agree with George Carlin’s theory for the warlike nature of America and it’s politicians: penis envy. Both Dick Cheney and Joe Lieberman have small dicks and are worried that Amanadinajad has a bigger one.
And now Obama is muscling in next to Joe and Dick and whipping his out to take measure.
I’m guessing that America will come up short again . . .
“Obama exaggerates the threat posed by Iran as a way to reassure the AIPAC audience that he is serious about protecting Israel’s security. And that’s the problem. Pandering of this sort, when it distorts the facts and exaggerates the threats, winds up making American foreign policy fundamentally irrational. It creates the illusion that there is a bipartisan consensus that it makes sense to carry out a pre-emptive attack on Iran.”
Quite. How unfortunate because AIPAC will hold Onama to deliver, unless of course he’s saved by BushCheney jumping the gun in October.
That said, you don’t need 50% to steer the ship in the direction you wish it to go. A boisterous 5% will do nicely. AIPAC’s money on The Hill bludgeons legislators into submission.
I have been completely appalled at Obama’s bellicosity toward Iran, based on the utterly unsupportable assumption that Iran is a threat to Israel. Either Obama is lying when he says Iran is a threat, which is very, very bad, or he is ill-informed enough to actually believe Iran is a threat, which is much, much worse.
Either way, day by day he confirms my decision to vote for a third party candidate who shares at least some of my values.
You noticed!
Bob Barr and Ralph Nader are looking real attractive.
Obama not only straddles but since clinching the nomination he has veered to the right... on foreign policy, the economy and social issues.
He’s all talk of change and being a different pol. Just disgusting. He criticized the Clintons but is loading up bringing their entourage on board.
Yeah, that’s another thing! Look at his new group of foreign policy advisers and you get deja vu all over again. Madeline Albright, who thought the price of the lives of 500,000 children under five (and that was early in the sanctions, and did not include children OVER five, of which there were hundreds of thousands who also were killed by the sanctions) was “worth it” (worth what, exactly?). Madeline Albright should have all those deaths on her conscience, but I doubt she does. And each of the others has something equally or more reprehensible in their history.
McCain might be worse than Obama, but Obama is no great gift. He is just another politician who will do or say anything to get into office, and once he is there will play the same sorts of games.
Haven’t they been implicated in espionage scandal after espionage scandal? How can a group, repeatedly involved in treason, still be a player in Washington?
that’s a major exaggeration. AIPAC was implicated in the spying scandal of Larry Franklin. Got another example that is specific to AIPAC?
One more thing….if most Jews vote democratic anyway….way did Gore need Lieberman on the ticket??
There is a site on the internet claiming quite a few government official has dual citizenship. What I want to know is did they take an oath to protect and by loyal to Israel above all else. When Americans get their citizenship they have to pledge allegiance to the United States. Can’t think it would be different for another country.
And the new Air Force Commanders, is a Jewish neo-con.
From Jim Lobe on Glick:
Iran is not now, and has never been a threat to anyone, let alone Israel.
In summary, Iran is no threat to Israel or to anyone else, and those who claim it is in order to justify an attack on Iran are being disingenuous.
You know, becoming a blogger has really helped him out a lot. I mean, after the initial lambasting he took in his first columns (now you must register to post) I would have expected him to take his ball and go home or become even more obstinate. Instead he seems to have learned and become more open to points of view outside the beltway.
I’m not calling him a lefty blogger, but he seems to be a bit more honest these days.
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John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt
Jewish Americans have set up an impressive array of organisations to influence American foreign policy, of which AIPAC is the most powerful and best known. In 1997, Fortune magazine asked members of Congress and their staffs to list the most powerful lobbies in Washington. AIPAC was ranked second behind the American Association of Retired People, but ahead of the AFL-CIO and the National Rifle Association. A National Journal study in March 2005 reached a similar conclusion, placing AIPAC in second place (tied with AARP) in the Washington `muscle rankings’.
The US form of government offers activists many ways of influencing the policy process. Interest groups can lobby elected representatives and members of the executive branch, make campaign contributions, vote in elections, try to mould public opinion etc. They enjoy a disproportionate amount of influence when they are committed to an issue to which the bulk of the population is indifferent.
Defense Policy Influence – Douglas Feith
● Obama and AIPAC
● Dutch Documentary ‘The Israel lobby – The influence of AIPAC on US Foreign Policy’
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."
Great diary, thanks.
Jim Lobe is a must read especially his older essays where he links Freedom’s Watch, Sheldon Adelson (one of AIPAC’s biggest contributers), Glick, Bush and all the rest of the neo-cons that have taken over our government’s policies. I believe Rove’s over there now, too.
http://www.ips.org/blog/jimlobe/
Also, Israeli politicians were at the UN this week showing Secret intelligence against Iran. They won’t quit.
Israel gives UN watchdog secret briefing on Iran
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/996713.html
And what about that AIPAC trial?
http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2008/06/court_narrows.html
Even more money for Israel….as if they need it:
US Congress approves Israel aid increase
AFP
Published: Friday June 27, 2008
Jun 25, 2008
Israel home to 1000 new millionaires
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1214132682326&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
No matter the source its nice to see someone ANYONE take on Israel. Republicans and Democrats refuse to speak out on the brutality inflicted on the Palestinians for 60 years. Now we embrace the most radical foreign policy in support of Israel. What the hell is going on? Its not rational. The christian rights embrace has put Israel over the top in political influence. Its shortsighted. Having your country attacked and or occupied makes for a bitter population. Bitter lasts a long time not four or eight years. You bomb and you sow the seeds hate for your children and your children’s children.
Boo, It doesn’t matter if you hate Joe Klein. (I find I agree with you about most things, it’s just that I never read Klein and have never paid any attention to him, so I don’t really have my own opinion, though I know he’s widely despised by the left blogs.) Nevertheless, I think Klein deserves more credit than you give him. Damn it, that was one of the most totally perfect comebacks to AIPAC I’ve ever read in my life. Few lobbies need to be told where to shove it more than AIPAC does — very few people even try. Klein just did it. The fact that this came from not merely a Jew but from Joe Klein, not one of the usual lefties, gives it all the more impact. They can try to ignore it, but they can’t, because Klein has just articulated, loud and clear, a sentiment very widely held across the American Jewish community.
Caroline Glick’s comments about the “Palestinian war against Israel” is pure bulls***. It is, in fact, Israel that has waged and endless genocidal war against the Palestinians, who are viewed as, among other things, a “demographic threat”.
Anyone, including many Israelis, who has studied the history of the conflict can see very clearly that the creation of Israel as The Jewish State necessitated massive ethnic cleansing by one means or another, and this is exactly what the Zionists/Israels undertook in 1947-48, and have continued in a more gradual manner until today both inside Israel and in the Occupied Palestinian Territories, and, in their most successful ethnic cleansing to date, the Golan Heights. Read, for starters, Israeli historian Ilan Pappe’s The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine.