What does John McCain know that we don’t know?
“I guarantee you that two weeks from now, you will see this has been a very close race, and I believe that I’m going to win it,” McCain told interim “Meet” moderator Tom Brokaw. “We’re going to do well in this campaign, my friend. We’re going to win it, and it’s going to be tight, and we’re going to be up late.”
McCain is no Joe Namath. However, with the GOP’s past history of stealing elections (see the recent disclosure that Bush told Tom Brokaw he would win Ohio just before election day in 2004) talk like this makes me nervous.
CNN just now running stories about touch screen failure which hopefully won’t end up saying to the people, why vote it won’t be counted anyway?
Just praying that this is more of Rovian math or that McCain will rip off his facial stitches and show himself as Baghdad Bob.
This go round the people themselves though are much more vigilant, the Floridians who noted that a touch on Obama’s name jumped to McCain’s.
And these incidences will keep happening all across our corrupt nation, you can be sure of that.
Funny that the counter reporting of the massive numbers of ABA volunteers, law students as well as Obama’s and probably McCain’s volunteers haven’t been brought up. It would be nice to hear how they are strategizing to help people out Nov. 4.
I’ll say this: if somehow McCain ended up in the White House, his enemies list within the GOP would be miles long. A lot of GOPers have staked their careers on John McCain’s losing this election… I’d trust their collective inside information before I’d listen to McCain’s desperate guarantees.
And there’s a lot of money spend on the Obama campaign by a lot of very wealthy people that Obama will win, as well as the hopes and dreams of us little people that their candidate will win.
Again, back to gambling. You say some GOP’ers are staking their careers on McCain losing, and I say many are staking their $$ on Obama or McCain winning. Lot’s of gambling going on here.
Republican New World Dictionary –
Win – To steal or acquire illegally using any method necessary.
Yeah, this all sounds like more of Karl Rove’s “new math” to me. But it’s not like I expect him to say “we’re going to lose and we’re going to lose big” – he has to stay on message that they’re winning, they’re closing the gap, the polls aren’t reflecting reality, etc. or else Republican turnout will get depressed.
I will say this though – don’t count on Ohio going for Obama. I think it’s going to be closer than ’04 was, and that means it will go to the Republicans. If it was a blowout like ’06 then I wouldn’t worry, but it’s not – the polls are way too close for comfort.
(I’m heartened a bit by the Obama signs in the ex-urban town up the road from me. There are actually Obama signs in yards there where in ’04 you could drive for a good long time without seeing a single Kerry sign. My suburban neighborhood has pulled about even in McCain and Obama signage – which is impressive considering that four years ago only the hippy family on the corner had a Kerry sign and it got vandalized within a week of them putting it out.)
Imho, positive declarations are also absolutely essential for the continual manufacture of reality — that is, political campaigning — that passes for GOP leadership since Bush’s manufactured victory in 2000 (& most especially since 9/11).
Btw, on the signage: here in the formerly blood-red Catskills of New York State, we’re seeing the same phenomenon: much more sign-support for Obama than there was for Kerry, with only one local theft so far.
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All candidates of every party always say they’ve got a secret plan to win no matter what the polls show. Hell, even McKinney and Barr and Nader won’t openly admit they’re going to lose.
McCain’s pseudo-optimism is just a crude mind game. The more we take it seriously the more he’s winning it.
He saw Republican wins here no one else did that year…and we all know how that turned out for the GOP.
My guess is that this is more of the same Rove bravado and insanity, although it did remind me of Bush’s certainty about Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004.
So then: where, this year, are the crucial precincts?
Oh, just the entire states of Florida, Colorado, Nevada, Virginia, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Missouri, etc. . . .
However, with the GOP’s past history of stealing elections (see the recent disclosure that Bush told Tom Brokaw he would win Ohio just before election day in 2004) talk like this makes me nervous.
Perhaps making progressive liberals nervous is the entire point of the exercise.
McSame certainly seems to be convinced that the polls are wrong because they are based on Democratic voter turnout assumptions that he thinks are faulty.
He seems to think that Obama’s record registration numbers won’t translate into actual votes for Obama and is guaranteeing a win because of it.
I wonder why that is.
Because state election offices are disqualifying voters by the tens of thousands, that why!
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/26/voter.suppression/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
Our lack of election integrity is an international travesty, and of course, shows how the elite in the US want to turn this nation’s 99% into another “3rd” world nation.
If the Democratic Party was really concerned with election fraud and Republican meddling with voters and their registrations, I think it would have been part of the first “100 days” of Pelosi/Reid’s agenda back in ’07. But it was not. There’s a conspiracy out there (gasp, I’ve now degraded my creds — I’ve used the “c” word) to keep the election systems across the nation a shambles of multiple rules, machines, and registration processes. If the Dems really wanted to win in ’08, you think they’d have revised HAVA (Help America Vote Act) or proposed that the states get their acts together over DRE’s (electronic machines), registrant verification, and challenge rules.
Another collusion between the Reps and the Dems, I’m afraid. Pelosi/Reid and their Congressional cronies are not failures, they are co-conspirators.
One actually has to wonder: if collusion exists, as it apparently does, what’s in it for the Democratic Party? Is it a matter of retaining a profit-potential, or what?
Yes.
They are and will continue to be a part of this imperialist game. But games always end, gambling always creates more losers than winners.
McCain is trying to mitigate the effects of his loss on races downticket by acting confident so his base will turn out.
Exactly. Plus, he’s egotistical enough to think Americans will come round to recognizing that he’s entitled to the job. And we’d all rather lose a squeaker than a landslide, right?
yes but this year, no one should take FIX(FOX) News seriously when the predict a state for John McCain.
It reminds me of the comment W had on the airplane with his brother Jeb, that he will guarantee Florida for W.
(footage on farenheight 9/11)
It doesn’t surprise me that McCain’s talking like this. The question is, are any other Republicans? If so, I haven’t heard it.
The reason why I say so is that I have been perusing the conservative blogs and talk radio for YEARS and they all attribute Democratic victories to sophisticated urban and minority voter fraud operations as well. Virtually every right leaning voter in the country (including some that will vote for Obama) is absolutely convinced that the huge rise in Democratic registrations the past few years is due to ACORN signing up illegal immigrants, dead people, and Daffy Duck.
The truth is that all voter fraud can accomplish is to tilt close elections. Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004 were what they were because the margin was 15,000 people tops in the latter and 5,000 in the former. You can blame Katherine Harris, Ken Blackwell, Diebold, etc. all you want, but the truth is that they never would have had an opportunity to do whatever it is you believe that they did had the election not been so close, and the only reason why the election was so close was because of the bad campaigns of Gore and Kerry. I am not talking about their incompetent advisors or their lack of a message (which was true). I am talking about how party activists spent months begging and pleading for Gore and Kerry to invest more resources into their ground operations. Spending $500,00 more dollars on volunteers to get Cleveland and Cincinnati voters to the polls would have saved Kerry, $50,000 more on volunteers in EITHER Jacksonville or Orlando would have done so for Gore. Fortunately the Democrats now have a “community organizer” who knows the importance of, well, community organizing, which is why you guys have a shot no matter what games the Republicans try to play. (Unfortunately, it may not be getting much press, but McCain’s ground operation in key states is vastly underrated and underreported, and GOPers tend not to need such operations nearly as much as Dems do.)
All the Katherine Harrises, Ken Blackwells, Diebold executives, etc. in the world couldn’t save the GOP in 2006, couldn’t they? No, because the Democrats had a good message (Iraq, Katrina, the economy, corruption, fraud, incompetence) and a bunch of good candidates and as a result blew the GOP away. If Obama manages these last critical days well, then you guys won’t have anything to worry about. Instead, all the talk will be on Townhall.com, World Net Daily, Rush Limbaugh, etc. on how all of those hundreds of thousands of allegedly fraudulent voters that ACORN signed up made the difference.
Look, I still remember Florida A&M (a large black college) students claiming that their efforts to vote in election 2000 were suppressed and hindered and demanding a revote. A CNN talk show actually interviewed two such students who claimed that they saw a roadblock on the way to vote, got scared, and turned around, claiming that they had never seen a roadblock in Tallahassee before. But when I checked the number of people who voted in the precinct on FAMU’s own campus to service their several thousand students who live in its dormitories, it turns out that only a few hundred even bothered to show up. They weren’t suppressed or hindered or disenfranchised … they just didn’t go to the same gymnasium that thousands of them regularly turn out for parties, concerts, basketball games, etc. to vote against the brother of the fellow that ended affirmative action in their state. Had even 30% of the 4000 students that were living on FAMU’s campus at the time used the voting precint set up on their own campus, Gore would have won Florida and the election no matter what Katherine Harris and Jeb Bush tried to do. But this time around, nearly 1000 FAMU students showed up for the first day of early voting because their university president made sure of it by organizing a march. If that can be replicated nationwide on election day, then there won’t be any need to talk about Diebold or anything else.
Incidentally, the only swing states that have Republican governors this time around anyway are Indiana and Georgia (and it is significant that Indiana and Georgia usually aren’t swing states). Well, both of those are early voting states, and as of last week 350,000 blacks had voted already with a week of early voting to go. If that keeps up, there won’t be a thing that Georgia’s Republican governor or secretary of state can do about Obama’s pulling off a shocker. And since Obama has been redirecting get out the vote volunteers to Georgia, he seems to realize what Kerry and Gore did not in 2000 and 2004.
How many of those black voters voted for McCain, according to the machine?