Sometimes I worry that the American people are too complacent and I wish they would go out in the streets and stir up some shit when they find out their government has been lying and stealing and committing other immoral acts. But then I see what real rioting is like, and I’m not so sure we haven’t made the right decision.
ATHENS: The violence in Greece by youths angry over the killing of a teenager by the police raged for a third day on Monday as thousands of police officers failed to contain some of the worst rioting in recent years.
A major street march through the center of central Athens quickly turned violent Monday night, as demonstrators threw concrete slabs, rocks and flaming gasoline bombs at police officers. A Christmas tree set up by the government in the center of the city was set on fire.
The rioting also intensified in the country’s second-largest city, Salonika, and for the first time spread to Trikala, a city in the country’s agricultural heartland.
Schools were shut in Athens, the capital, and high school and university students spilled onto the streets, leading to scattered violence throughout the day. But the evening demonstration, which had attracted thousands and was organized by the nation’s Communist Party, was accompanied by some of the worst of the violence of the past several days, and bystanders said they were growing more frustrated with the police’s inability to stop the riots.
I understand the anger at lethal police brutality, but three days of rioting? Torching the Christmas Tree? Forcing the closure of schools? Whatever happens, they better make some reforms that will make it all worthwhile.
If we don’t see immediate action the day after Obama takes office, and even the moderately bad scenarios play out as expected I don’t think we can expect to be riot free next year. Particularly with all the people who are armed and dangerously delusional about the real cause of our economic decline.
Arvosis is on record now as supporting the use of force against rioters by police.
From what I’ve read, there was no alternative for those who wanted to avenge the shooting. I’m thinking the government and police will think twice next time — an outcome that would not have been achieved by polite protest.
Yeah, this stuff hurts. The question is, does it hurt as much as letting the ruling class get away with their outrages. I suspect the US would have been a little better off if we’d had more of this.
sometimes three days of rioting are necessary.
Blame the powerful for pushing things so far that the weak finally rise up en masse.
I support the rioters. folks don’t riot cause they have nothing better to do. serious issues that have obviously been ignored.
We don’t have a riot in the US but there is a factory sit in, in Chicago of all places. Rude Pundit has a tame (for him) description.
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/
There is a huge amount of perfectly acceptable territory between people sitting on their asses and a three day riot.
I see, so excessive force by the state must not be met by use of force by the citizenry?
That’s interesting. Maybe Greece would be a more democratic place if the US hadn’t been propping up military dictatorships there for decades, not to mention all that BS about Operation Gladio, etc.
Maybe then the good people of Greece could fill out complaint forms in triplicate and get a few disparaging remarks in these officers’ employment record files.
Pax