Looking over the vote in the House on the Stimulus Package, where almost all the Democrats and none of the Republicans voting for Obama’s proposal (despite his extremely visible outreached hand, meetings, compromises on more than one issue, etc.), I realized that the Republican (read Neo-Conservative) Movement was still in full swing. It was one thing to go up against a majority of American economists, a growing number of unemployed workers, lower-middle-class homeowners whose mortgages were about to et their homes… but it is strictly another thing not to have any Party consessions (like one or two votes in favor) to show that the attempts at bipartisanship by the President would be somewhat acknowledged.
So I was wandering around the intelligence base of the right and found an article in Forbes Magazine about the 25 Most Influential Liberals In The U.S. Media, and I found this definition of what a Liberal is:
Broadly, a “liberal’ subscribes to some or all of the following: progressive income taxation; universal health care of some kind; opposition to the war in Iraq, and a certain queasiness about the war on terror; an instinctive preference for international diplomacy; the right to gay marriage; a woman’s right to an abortion; environmentalism in some Kyoto Protocol-friendly form; and a rejection of the McCain-Palin ticket.
You know, aside from the “queasiness” on the War on Terror (I don’t think we’re at all queasy… we’re against “wars” that are unwinnable because there is no physically defined and geographically locatable enemy), I have to agree with Forbes.
What’s interesting to me is that, since the beloved Ronald Reagan – the first President elected on the grounds that the government he would lead was not worth having, strictly because it was “government” – these definitive things have been promoted by Republicans as negatives. As if absolute human rights could be negative! As if women should allow the despised “government” to control their bodies! As if cutting the carbon emissions from the atmosphere before we destroy our world-wide agricultural base is a lousy idea! As if McCain and Palin made sense last Fall!
Yet, taking this definition seriously, Forbes thinks Andrew Sullivan and Christopher Hitchens are definition Liberals. I guess this is because the first is a gay man who supports legalized gay marriage and the second is an acknowledged atheist. I can’t look at either as a Liberal, although I have great respect for Sullivan and think his support of Obama on his blog was a highly influential position for certain groups of Americans.
But I see myself as supporting these GOOD things and see them becoming more and more positive as the American mindset sees how necessary such concepts are in bringing us out of the absurd pit that Bush’s tax cuts and the corporate world’s polluting disregard of scientifically proven standards (in return for tremendous income to the top 1% of society) have brought us.
Maybe Forbes is trying to become a Liberal Magazine.
Maybe not.
I’m not just “queasy” I’m positively ill – heartsick to the point of no recovery – about the fucking thing.
MY COUNTRY has turned out to be a Fascist Monstrosity.
Fucking A right, I’m a LIBERAL!! And damn proud of it!
Hmm let’s parse those eh?
progressive income taxation – as opposed to what? Regressive income taxation, wherein rich people pay LESS than poor people?
universal health care of some kind – as opposed to what? Your right to a healthy life should be determined only by your income?
opposition to the war in Iraq – and this “war” is against whom exactly? Who is the enemy? What is the purpose of this war? Has anyone EVER defined it other than “looking for WMD”?
and a certain queasiness about the war on terror – no human being is a SUPPORTER of terrorism.
What makes people “queasy” is the way problems and risks are being ADDRESSED. I mean just the framing “war on terror” makes me personally queasy due to its being inherently grammatically nonsensical.
Cracking down on freedom (civil rights) in order to protect one from others (“terrorists”) who attack us “for our freedoms” is nonsense elevated to the extreme.
an instinctive preference for international diplomacy – let’s see here, “diplomacy” is when solutions are generally arrived at by finding compromises that work for all parties involved. Versus what exactly? Using war, inflicting starvation and force to bully countries into (briefly) submitting to one side’s will?
BTW this preference for diplomacy isn’t “instinctual”, it’s actually the most rational, logical course.
the right to gay marriage – there isn’t even a “right” to heterosexual marriage. There are several legal restrictions in place, including blood tests for communicable diseases, etc. What most of us believe in is the LEGAL OPTION of gay marriage.
a woman’s right to an abortion – this makes it sound like every woman has a coupon for one free abortion which she WILL get.
No, what most of us believe in is the right for a woman to CHOOSE what’s best for her and her body, not just in the domain of abortions but also things like pre-natal care, contraceptives, family planning as well as general healthcare.
environmentalism in some Kyoto Protocol-friendly form – the Kyoto protocol is essentially a cap on pollution limits. So the alternative is what? Yahoo, all systems go on unlimited pollution?
and a rejection of the McCain-Palin ticket – YES.
Pax
Agreed in principle on most points, including your corrections.
However:
“progressive income taxation – as opposed to what? Regressive income taxation, wherein rich people pay LESS than poor people?“
I believe that progressive income taxation is the system in which people with higher incomes pay a greater percentage of their income in taxes than people with lower incomes do. Not sure that this is really progressive, and quite sure it is not fair.
Oops, I misspoke (or mistyped hehe).
I meant to say wherein rich people pay LESS as a percentage of their income than poor people do.
I have absolutely no idea what the official definition of “progressive taxation” is. What I do know is that right now lower income people pay MORE as a percentage of their income on taxes than higher income people do. It’s not even close.
Pax
Well you know me, I can’t resist answering my own questions. Turns out there is a Wikipedia entry on what “progressive tax” is.
Looks like the majority of economists (today) and even “Wealth of Nations” founder Adam Smith were all for it. Don’t know why this is opposed by Forbes or as some kind of “liberal” benchmark though.
Pax
Hmmm, let me take the test: