With events spiraling out of control in Iran, it is probably a good time to ask ourselves what our country’s strategic interests are there and how different outcomes might impact them.
Iran is the prototypical crossroads, and it’s territory has been fought over for all of recorded history. Its trade routes are famous and its ports are strategic. It’s rich with oil and gas, and borders Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan (all of which are of particular interest to the United States). It also borders Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan, the Caspian Sea, and Turkmenistan. All of that is important. But, even more important, is Iran’s role as a threat to Israel.
When Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982, Iran began a long and complicated relationship with the people there. They exported Revolutionary Guards who mobilized the local Shi’a community and created what is now known as Hizbollah. Throughout the 1980’s the Iranians waged a proxy war with American intelligence services during Lebanon’s darkest days. Throughout the 1990’s, Hizbollah bled Israel dry before finally forcing their almost complete withdrawal. It is not important that we place the appropriate amount of blame on each side of the scale. What’s important is that Israel has come to see Iran’s sponsorship of Hizbollah as a major threat to their security. In 2006, Israel launched a second invasion of Lebanon to try to destroy Hizbollah’s ability to menace them. Israel failed.
This failure badly damaged the Israeli psyche, as they had never before been defeated in war. It made the Israelis feel more insecure and, thus, less willing to make concessions according to the Road Map or any other previous agreements. Meanwhile, a major split opened up between the Palestinians who support Fatah and the Palestinians who support Hamas. Hamas, which enjoys some support from Iran, won parliamentary elections in Palestine and subsequently took control of the Gaza Strip. From there, they began bombarding Israeli towns with rudimentary rockets. The rockets caused little damage and few fatalities, but the Israelis inability to stop them made them feel even more insecure and less inclined to make concessions.
The combination of the defeat in Lebanon and the ceaseless bombardment from Gaza, convinced the Israelis that peace was impossible so long as Iran was financing these efforts at resistance. Seeing Iran as belligerent and provocative, Israel also became extremely fearful of Iran’s efforts to enrich uranium, and began pressuring the United States to effect a regime change there before Iran mastered the nuclear fuel-cycle that can be converted for use in weapons.
It’s unclear just how much of a legitimate threat Iran poses to Israel. No doubt, their money and expertise is put to use killing Israelis. But it’s a big leap to thinking that Iran would confront them directly with their military or with nuclear weapons through proxy. It’s important to keep the facts straight about Iran’s capabilities and intentions, but it’s more important to deal with the plain fact that Iran makes Israel extremely nervous and provides them with an excuse not to restart the peace process. It has not helped, at all, that President Ahmadinejad has a proclivity for inflammatory Holocaust-denying sabre-rattling.
Every bit of this is of intense interest to the United States. The peace process is at the top, but Iran is important for our policies in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, the Caspian Basin, for oil and gas, and for the shipping lanes though the Persian Gulf. Even our policies towards Russia and China are heavily implicated.
The simplest way of looking at this is that on every piece of policy concern, we would prefer to have the reformists in Iran prevail. Musavi ran on a less belligerent foreign policy, and a possible opening to the West. That would have been nice, but we’re dealing with bigger fish now. An Iran that rids itself not only of Ahmadinejad, but the Mullahocracy, and that is willing to keep its nuclear program contained for energy purposes, is an Iran that the United States can deal with. It’s an Iran that no longer is trying to expand their revolutionary agenda throughout the Middle East, and one that no longer provides an excuse for Israel to postpone peace negotiations.
I understand that many people have sympathy for anyone who menaces Israel, and sees this as a defeat for those that resist the Israeli occupation. The fact of the matter is that the United States wants a peace agreement. Anything that stands in the way of that is not in our interests. For that reason, we should hope that the Reformers prevail.
We should not be under any illusions that a popularly elected Iranian government is going to abandon nuclear science or be pro-Israeli. But, we know that the status quo is an endless cycle of violence.
We don’t want or need to be enemies of Iran. We will always have our differences, but we can work them out if we get the right conditions. Those conditions are taking shape on the streets of Tehran, right now.
Yet, in spite of our interests in a Reformation in Iran, we should not step on the scales. The only really beneficial change will be a wholly indigenous one.
As usual, you’re giving us the bigger picture. That’s why I keep coming back to this site.
Indeed; this and the last couple of articles about Iran have been quite good.
Although negotiations with Iran might be easier if reform occurs in Iran, US strategy must consider what to do if it does not. In that case, Obama will be pressed from the right to engage in (more intense?) covert destabilization of the regime. We thought that the example of failure in Vietnam would deter US policymakers from trying the same strategy again. We were wrong, as Iraq proves. We should not be complacent about an adverse outcome for the reformers because we will have to nip any tendency to interventionism in the bud with a Congress that was all too willing to grandstand with a Republican-generated resolution.
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The shocking seizure of the American embassy and its staff in Tehran on November 4, 1979, placed U.S.-Iran relations firmly in the deep freeze. Whatever hopes existed on either side for a rapprochement after the Shah’s departure at the start of the year were quickly doused. Twenty years later, the controversy over reestablishing ties rages on in both countries. Serious differences exist on strategic matters and regional policy, while public discourse is complicated by lingering images of blind-folded hostages and rhetorical invocations against “Global Arrogance”.
In the last two years, however, Iran’s political scene has become far more fluid. President Mohammad Khatemi’s surprise landslide victory in May 1997 reflected strong grassroots demands to rejuvenate Iran’s post-revolutionary policies, and the new moderate leader has responded, even reaching out to the United States with a compelling call for a “dialogue of civilizations”.
[See Top Secret documents now declassified – Oui]
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."
A couple of things are missing. There was a lot of under-the-table arms business done with the help of Israel during the Iran-contra thing, so before I presume the causation for some relationships I’d like some further clarification of that. I don’t think that that’s common knowledge even now and the players involved and their respective organizations within those countries are not about to be explicating anything.
Second, Israel’s got a rather large nuclear arsenal, the elephant in the room no one mentions. And Israel has the means of delivering those weapons throughout the Islamic world. Every intelligence service knows that.
My simple point is that Iran having an atomic weapon, and that’s still a longshot a long way off, is not the threat that Israel or its allies make it out to be.
I agree that the big change in Iran is a cultural one, one that is scary to all theocrats throughout the region. This story has been repeated throughout the world as the comfort of tradition and the strictures of religion are threatened by science, knowledge and the outside world. How can you keep ’em down on the farm now that they’ve seen Paree?
Under-the-table arms business. There were two instances. The first was negotiated by former CIA personnel before Ronald Reagan became president. That was an arms-for-hostages agreement to delay release of the hostages until after Reagan was president in exchange for US arms. Reagan fulfilled his side of the deal after taking office.
The second was the Iran-Contra deal in which arms were sold to Iran, and in secret that money was transferred to overseas accounts to support the Contras.
So ham-handed was this operation that Ollie North lost $10 million by keying in an incorrect bank account number at a Swiss bank while making a deposit. Or was it an error?
“Iran having an atomic weapon, and that’s still a longshot a long way off, is not the threat that Israel or its allies make it out to be.“
It is one of a long series of pretexts that Israel has used to avoid being forced into an agreement on the territories it occupied (and partially ethnically cleansed) in 1967, and began systematically colonizing in 1967 according to a plan developed by the two Moshes, Alon and Dayan, and which it has never had any intention of relinquishing, but on the contrary incorporating into the official territory of Israel (after gradually ethnically cleansing it, of course).
There is no real evidence that Iran has any intention of developing nuclear weapons in the foreseeable future, though it is plausible that they would like to do as Japan has done, and develop nuclear power with the potential for quickly developing nuclear weapons if deemed necessary for defence. And who in possession of the facts and a sense of reality could possibly blame them under the circumstances they face?
might be better stated as: Seeing Iran as belligerent and provocative, Israel also became extremely belligerent and provocative…
which this action by bibi today: Israel keeps Mossad chief on for Iran “shadow war”
it’s a two way street, and if anybody outside iran had a hand in fomenting the current turmoil, l’d suspect mossad a damn sight quicker than the cia, which has proven itself to be woefully inept in the ME.
imo, israel’s a much bigger part of the ME problem than iran.
but Israel is actually, you know, in Israel. Iran is a fifth of the way around the globe from them. Why isn’t Nigeria causing problems for peace in Israel?
Whether Israel deserves it or not, peace can only come on terms they are willing to accept. And Iran has been making those terms impossibly hard on the Palestinians.
Blame Israel more if you want, but Israel will not change while they are under constant harassment. See how wonderfully Intifada II worked out for the Palestinian Authority, for example.
“Israel under constant harrassment”?
Let’s see now–Israel invades Lebanon twice and is forced out by Hezbollah.
Does Israel feel threatened because it can no longer freely invade its neighbors? Most people would view that as a positive rather than some issue that has to be patronized by the US in its dealings with Iran.
And daily, Israel threatens war with Iran, yet Israel is the nation constantly harrassed?
so, Israel isn’t constantly harassed? That’s a novel take on things.
If Israel doesn’t like being “constantly harassed” it can change its behaviour. Among other things it can give up its status as neighborhood bully, and stop constantly harassing and threatening the neighborhood – you know, like its daily violations of Lebanese territorial and airspace, terrorizing Lebanese and Palestinians with sonic booms over their heads, using children playing too near the border as target practice, stuff like that.
Oh yeah, and Israel could also release the maps of the many thousands of land mines it planted in Lebanon in rhw ’80’s, and that are still regularly killing and maiming children, adults, donkeys, sheep, and wildlife, and they can help clean up the cluster bomblets they maliciously carpeted southern Lebanon with AFTER the ceasefire had been signed, and which are still killing and maiming Lebanese, mainly children, who pick them up because they look kind of interesting, and kids, even Lebanese kids, are – you know – curious.
You say Israel will not change except on their terms. It’s also true that Israel can’t withstand a state of semi-war forever, and that it can’t conquer the whole region. The only one of those three realities that Israel can change is its own policies and behavior. If it continues its intransigence, its insistence on holding onto its post-67 landgrab, its only future is no future.
that is certainly true, but now that we have a White House willing to pursue peace at the outset, the time for making Israel feel insecure is certainly over, even if it is only a hiatus. We must work on improving the psychological conditions in Israel.
That would have to work both ways. I don’t see Israel cooperating. It could be that instead of trying to make them feel more secure, we’d do more for eventual peace by scaring them shitless over a real possibility of either ending the occupation now or finding themselves without allies in the world. Same with the Palestinians, who are surely smart enough to know that the ME tyrannies are not their friends.
The U.S. has to make them feel very insecure, but those that have been lobbing rockets and sending suicide bombers and making threats, need to stop to allow Israel to gain a sense of security.
Both have to work at the same time.
Nobody ever stops harassing the enemy in order to give them a sense of security. They stop because there’s something in it for them. What’s in it for the Palestinians? Beyond more plans and promises?
If the Palestinians do not get a state this time around, it may never happen. If they’re smart they’ll take advantage of this opportunity be recognizing that the two key audiences are the American voters and the Israeli populace.
LOL! Attempts to give Israel a sense of security have never stopped Israel from pursuing its goal of expanding its territory or made it more interested in making peace. If one takes a careful and honest look at its history one sees that if anything the opposite is the case. Oslo brought about a great escalation of land confiscation and colonization activity.
Notice how in BooMan’s world the onus is not on the theif to stop stealing, but on the victim and his allies to create the conditions that theoretically will make the thief want to stop stealing, and start returning the property he has stolen. Funny how it never works that way.
the intifada worked about as well as israel’s preemptive attacks on lebanon and syria, not to mention their continuing siege of gaza or the expansion of settlements. which is to say, it exacerbated the situation.
look, l get that there’s plenty of blame to go round, and certainly there are no heros here. but until israel is willing to go back to the 1967 boundaries, abandon the settlements, live with a two state solution for palestine, become involved in meaningful negotiations in lieu of the semantic games they play for the benefit of the u.s., as well as stop their overt, covert and bellicose actions against those whom dislike, they’re never going to have peace nor any semblance of security.
none of israel’s neighbors pose an existential threat to them, regardless of their protestations regarding same. israel, on the other hand, does pose an existential threat to some of them, especially the palestinians, and, one could reasonably argue, the iranians, who they’re jones’in to bomb the shit out of. so just how are we supposed change their paranoia?
who’s the sole nuclear power in the ME? who has a huge standing army, air force, and navy… with the very best made in america equipment our money can buy… that’s used indiscriminately at the slightest provocation?
they have become the exmplar of the old proverb, you reap what you sow. l’ve lost whatever sympathy l had for them because of their actions, and frankly, l’m tired of the meme of israel as the victim. at best they’re victims of their own actions and delusions.
and to pick a nit….l know where israel is, as well as iran, and it’s about 1000 miles, as the crow flies, from tel aviv to tehran…..try 4% of the way around the globe. one could draw some interesting parallels between the situation the ME, with that between mainland china and taiwan, albeit, on a different scale [btw, they’re only 100 miles apart] including, but not limited to, a proposed two state solution that’s been around for a while…at least they’re not killing one another over minor irritants… take that as you will.
an aside: l’m still trying to figure out what nigeria’s got to do with this…huh?
well, the point with Iran and Nigeria is that they are both non-Arab countries with plenty of Muslims in them. So, Nigeria could obsess about the Palestinian question with all the same justification as the Mullahs of Iran, but they don’t. And, therefore, we don’t really care who governs Nigeria, or how, when it comes to concluding a peace deal in Israel/Palestine, but we do care about that in Iran.
As for Israel, I care a little bit about the people who live there and want them to have peace and security, but I too have lost a lot of sympathy over the years. But it doesn’t matter. Our country and our security is heavily invested in a cessation of violence in the Middle East. We cannot expect to continue an alliance with Israel, with how they behave, and not think that we be under constant threat of reprisals which threaten our freedoms and cost us trillions to cope with. So, I long ago stopped giving a shit who started what and who deserves what, and only care about steps that advance peace.
That’s why I get so pissed off whenever Israel uses force outside their borders and why I have so little patience for moronic counterproductive rocket attacks, suicide bombers, and fiery rhetoric. That’s why I go off on the settlers.
They are all enemies of peace.
Oh, yeah. Israel’s historical intransigence is really the fault of everyone else who will not accede to terms Israel is willing to accept even though Israel always makes its terms utterly unacceptable to those who have something at stake.
And of course it is Iran, not Israel, that is making terms that are impossibly hard on the Palestinians.
It’s not that Israel has, from the beginning, been determined to make “Judea and Samaria” part of its territory and at times has explicitly said so, it is that Iran is making it impossible for Israel to stop its frantic confiscation and colonization of land – aka creation of “facts on the ground” intended to obviate the creation of a Palestinian state, and whose outline was planned by the Moshes Alon and Dayan in 1967 and refined since then.
“…the cia, which has proven itself to be woefully inept in the ME.“
The Mossad’s record is far from sterling. Their fumbling and bumbling and spectacular failures were legendary at one time. My focus has changed since around 2002, so don’t know how they are viewed today in Israel, but they were well on their way to laughing stock for a while there.
“israel’s a much bigger part of the ME problem than iran.“
No question whatsoever about that.
Booman :
You are so much saner than most it’s embarrassing to say you still haven’t ‘got it.’
Think back to the time prior to the invasion of Iraq. UN sanctions. What has been happening to Iran ? UN sanctions and bank account freezing, mistranslations of the president’s speeches, freezing of oilfield infrastructure supply…
Iraq and Iran were at war for many years. Who supplied arms to Iran’s foe and trained their dictator ( surely you’ve seen the pictures of Cheney shaking hands with Saddam ) ? Who caused an insurrection and installed a puppet dictator ? Who still has a puppet dictator next door – and a shitload of super bases nobody talks about ?
But….but…but…WMD ! Israel !
Shit. Shit. More shit.Back in the Day.
John Fitzgerald Kennedy was prince of the USA and the world had an Obama -like euphoria. Jackie was a fashion idol and the magazines couldn’t tell you enough of the glamorous Ms. Bouvier.
In Ankara, the US used a NATO installation to install missiles with nuclear warheads minutes from Russia.
The canny Georgian installed missiles in Cuba. Shoe pounding at the UN ensued. ‘We will bury you!’
Now, at this time we didn’t know the madman in charge of SAC was running nuke equipped bomb runs inside Soviet airspace on a regular basis. The Sovs were suddenly scary. Those who believed the swill of McCarthyism were still around in force.
Concessions were made. A blockade was put around Cuba.
An act of war…….Time passes. The Russians agree to sell Iran a nuclear powerplant which they need to keep domestic electricity generation up to snuff for such things as hospitals, water treatment and sanitation. They sign on to nuclear controls superior to those agreed to by any other nation – and even make an initiative towards supporting nuclear arms reduction.
Bad move. Suddenly the supplier of weaponry and nuke tech decides that inspections and controls aren’t good enough and that Iran is working in secret to learn how to do what the US has done for years.
A little diversion here. When North Korea was braced about nuclear explosions recently by the Security Council they were roundly condemned as hypocrites : they had conducted 2052 tests among them compared to their 2. Iran ? Zero.
Some menace. Some country deserving of international sanctions for trying to show an example.
No good deed goes unpunished.
But. They are a potential nuclear menace because the country pissed off already by deployment of missile systems in Eastern Europe ( abrograting the treaty which caused the USSR to remove occupying forces from Eastern Europe ) has supposedly supplied the means to be a nuclear menace to its neighbour : one hell of a lot closer than the USA.
You can’t even make plutonium into a bomb if it’s treated properly ! Let alone material for reactors – a separate technology. But hey, this is the scenario attested to by the same people who made a menace out of Nigerian fertilizer that was lying all over Iraq anyway. Yellowcake.
Read what the Arms Control Wonk says about that stuff. It’s embarrassing.
Almost as embarrassing as believing people who blew the cover of the CIA NOC in charge of the Middle East WMD threat desk and Brewster Jennings cover – so nobody could say Cheney was so full of shit it was a wonder he could breathe !
Not done. Fire up YouTube. Cheney. Play the 1993 explanation of why George Sr. didn’t invade Iraq.
Then read http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB207/index.htm It’s not that long.
It’s just a war game projection : nothing remarkable.
Except : track the arc of events as they occurred and compare them to the projection.
Iraq – was just a warmup. Carrier Groups – plural! – have been in the Persian Gulf for years. Nobody talks about the military bases in Iraq.
Look up Bagram. It’s just one of over a hundred.
Bu…but…Obama. Not Bush!
I nearly lost my coffee up my nose when I read this one – because it was so right.
‘Exchanging a black skunk with white stripes for a white skunk with black stripes is not progress.’
What progress is there ? Well, targeting has changed from Iraq to shooting up people in their homes in Pakistan and Afghanistan and using GI Joe toys turned deadly for remote control targeting of humans from the air in the comfort of one’s sofa using a PS3 joystick.
Ain’t Progress Wonderful ?
We know the SAS ran ops in Iran. We know al Qaeda ( yep. no shit. the CIA still uses them. Don’t ask about f’ing long dead and gone Saudi prince and friend of George Bush bin Ladin – your head will explode. That would mean going into 9/11 ‘conspiracy’ and I’m not qualified ) is running mercenary ops in Iran for foreign masters. Bush bluntly said Iranian military and government were targets.
So. If Iran doesn’t get power…cholera, disease,etc. Why ? Just look at Iraq or Somalia.
Guys. The PNAC is not a conspiracy theory. It was the frank declaration of guys who stole the US government from the people about what they were going to do.
Nobody argues with Big Oil.
Two Texas oilmen took the country through the Middle East on a killing spree and it’s just stupidity and bad decisions?
Tell it to the people who were occupied by their ‘Liberators’ and had to live under Bremer’s 100 Orders
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=42948
I haven’t nearly finished with the Reality Check that needs to be brought to people. But I’m done here and now.
The French and Soviets sold Saddam almost all of his weapons, and it was Rumsfeld, not Cheney, who shook Saddam’s hand.
Here’s a decent article on who armed Saddam.
Factcheck: By “the canny Georgian” I assume you mean Nikita Khrushchev. But he was not Georgian, he was Ukrainian. Stalin was Georgian, but he died in 1953.
This entire argument rests on the faulty premise that the main impediment to peace at the moment is Israel’s genuine fear of Iran. It does not take into account Israel’s true intentions and plans toward the OPT, which date back well before 1967, not to mention, of course, its illegitimate de facto annexation of the Golan Heights and its continued occupation of the Sheb`a farms area, which both Syria and Lebanon consider Lebanese territory.
Iran is only the latest in a series of pretexts that allow Israel to gobble up other people’s land. If Iran goes away as a pretext they will, as they always have, find or create another.
“When Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982, Iran began a long and complicated relationship with the people there. They exported Revolutionary Guards who mobilized the local Shi’a community and created what is now known as Hizbollah.“
This is factually incorrect history. It distorts reality in a very unfortunate way that is obviously self-serving to the bomb bomb Iran crowd. It also rather insults the Lebanese Shi`as who were and are NOT pawns of Iran, and who created and developed Hezbollah to serve their own interests, not anyone else’s. They certainly did not need someone to come from outside to “mobilize” them.
I do not have time right now to write more than this, but will try to post more when I do have time, perhaps on the sidebar.
PS In fact, this false history sounds like something that comes straight out of a Hasbara Talking Points Memo.