You know, John Dickinson, I don’t need to hear your moral condemnation about my glee in seeing another Republican moralizer exposed as a hypocrite. I didn’t want to go to church and Sunday school, but I learned a few things while I was there.
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.” (Matthew 7:1-5 RSV)
“Beware of practicing your piety before men in order to be seen by them; for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. Thus, when you give alms, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by men. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your alms may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you. And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by men. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you.” (Matthew 6:1-6 RSV)
“Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and said, “Why do Your disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat.” He answered them, “And why do you transgress the Commandment of God for the sake of your tradition? For God commanded, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘He who speaks evil of father or mother, let him surely die.’ But you say, ‘If any one tells his father or his mother, What you would have gained from me is given to God, he need not honor his father.’ So, for the sake of your tradition, you have made void the word of God. You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me; in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.'” (Matthew 15:1-9 RSV)
The whole basis of Jesus’s teachings is that we shouldn’t listen to moral hypocrites, but should instead expose their hypocrisy and mock it.
For someone who went unwillingly to Sunday School, you absorbed more than the Christianists who want to browbeat everyone with their overweaning and self-indulgent sense of moral rectitude.
Erudite enough for the moralists?
Unconscious self parody the Onion would be proud of:
People like John Dickinson exist to make the rest of us appreciate unintentional comedy.
He doesn’t realize that we have a godly mandate to mock Sanford for his hypocrisy.
I don’t think this is the whole basis — what’s reported as Jesus’s words is a mashup of contradictory claims written by different people at different times, so there really is no whole basis.
That aside, I disagree that we should expose and mock hypocrites — wouldn’t that be going into “log in the eye” territory? Thing is, though, that when the likes of Sanford, Ensign, O’Reilly and the long list of other wingnut hypocrites use religious cant to impose their political power on the behavior of others, their own transgressions become more than fair game. Exposing them and humiliating them becomes a political duty in order to expose the mindless narcissism that their pious poses mask. In other words, to point out that their moral poses are, far from being qualifications for office, absolute disqualifications.
Since they’re all so fond of applying Bible quotes to politics and social control, here’s one from the same part they love to quote about the abomination of gay sex: “If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife–with the wife of his neighbor–both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.” Leviticus 20:10. I don’t see anything there about how apologies and whining about their “mistakes” changes the punishment. It’s absolute. It’s a must.
Maybe it’s time to do a trial run on biblical law starting with Sanford and Ensign, and then down the rest of the list. To do less would be to spit in the face of God, right?
Ah, you are missing the point.
First, Jesus morally condemned hypocrites for morally condemning other people. He didn’t see any contradiction, so why should we?
Second, despite the troublesome nature of sourcing biblical quotes, the NT is consistent in portraying Jesus as an enemy of putting the letter of the Law in front of the intent of the Law.
Thus, he healed people on the Sabbath and overturned the money-changers’ tables in the Temple and he hung out with loose women and tax-assessors and other riff-raff.
I think you are missing the point about Bible thumpers: they have no interest in Jesus except to use the brand as part of their con game. It’s Leviticus and its horror-story siblings that gets their little hearts going pitter-patter. You’ve no doubt notices that one of them ever agitates to put the Sermon on the Mount on the courtroom walls.
Although I get your point I think your parents should ask for their money back if you think the WHOLE BASIS of Jesus’s teachings is that we shouldn’t listen to moral hypocrites.
well, they probably thought I’d internalize that whole bit about no one gets to the father except through me.
But, really, the whole basis of his teaching was that you are not righteous just because you go to synagogue and give alms and keep the dietary and other laws if you are not righteous in your dealings with people.
This may be true: you are not righteous just because you go to synagogue and give alms and keep the dietary and other laws if you are not righteous in your dealings with people.
But many people go to the synagogue, give alms and keep the dietary and other laws and ARE righteous. Why? Because they obey the actual basis of Jesus’s teaching – love the lord your god with your whole heart etc. and love your neighbor as yourself.
Mocking doesn’t seem to fit in with the “love” part. There is a difference between exposing hypocrisy and mocking someone.
That’s why someone like, for instance, MLK who could speak against hypocrisy and yet truly attempt not to belittle any other person by mockery or other means, not even the hypocrites, is a special person.
you can parse the word ‘mock’ if you want. Yelling ‘you hypocrites’ at religious leaders seems mocking to me. And that doesn’t even touch going into the temple and upsetting their kickback arrangements.
Nowhere does it say he yelled the word hypocrites. Maybe he said it in sadness, shaking his head.
There is difference between losing your temper (righteous anger) and mocking someone (belittling someone). Any parent knows that you can love your child and have righteous anger against the actions of your child. But mocking your child? Not a good thing.
Mocking is not a nice thing to do. No matter if you are on the right side or not.
As I constantly remind myself when I am online …
actually, from the King James version on, there are exclamation points after ‘you hypocrites’ in Matthew.
Exclamation points don’t necessarily indicate increased volume. They can but the don’t necessarily indicate it.
And even increased volume doesn’t indicate mocking. There is no punctuation mark that indicates sneering or other forms of mockery.
You’ve used the whole Jesus mocked meme before – you like it. But I don’t think it’s grounded in fact. It’s something you want to read into the words.
He does, however, expose hypocrisy.
He never mocked, this is true, but he did condemn. Then too, He alone is able to condemn. Or forgive…
I think he mocked.
What we need is someone with access to the original greek texts and the ability to read and interpret them to tell us if the concept of Jesus mocking anyone is made explicit (in the way that it is apparently made explicit that the Roman soldiers mocked him). And whether exclamation points existed in ancient greek and what they meant.
But since probably neither of us gives much creedance to the Council of Nicea we probably should take a look at all the gnostic gospels too.
Then we’ll KNOW. 🙂
I read Greek and Hebrew, and there’s no mocking coming from Jesus. No condescension. No big “I” little “you” – the crux of mocking. There’s no there there.
well, my ancient greek is rusty, having not read any in about 14 years. but this isn’t about interpreting the language. It’s about what I consider mockery versus what you consider mockery.
For me, upbraiding a group of rabbis in public for their blatant hypocrisy and love of lording it over people is public ridicule and mockery which was probably the most significant reason why he was put to death. Maybe he really did go around claiming to be King of the Jews, but the more significant problem was that he kept telling the authorities that they were full of crap. And causing a scene in the temple did help his reputation.
As much as I want to validate your position, Matthew 23 won’t let me…
Jesus had some choice words for the Pharisees and the teachers of the Law…
But, Mary, since I agree with you that MLK is the holiest of Americans, I will provide you one of his most excellent sermons for your edification.
link
How does that refute my statement that he could expose hypocrisy while not mocking?
It was not offered as a refutation.
Then what was it offered to me as? How am I supposed to be edified?
I think just reading it is edifying. I’m not even a Christian, and I don’t think I disagree with anything he said.
(emphasis mine)
This text directly addresses the subject at hand…
Not exactly. Unless the seat of Moses is in the South Carolina governor’s mansion.
Not to the man himself as governor so much as to religious authorities in general when talking about the difference between actions and words. Jesus says that their words are valid even though their actions aren’t – and they will reap the reward that their actions deserve…
Maybe now Dickerson can get back to examining how well the Ten Commandments on the schoolhouse wall works for keeping students in line. Or how well abstinence-only works for kids. Neither seems to have worked well for a 49 year-old governor.
Does anyone know why Nancy Dickerson is buried in Arlington?
this is as good a reason as any:
google is your friend bob.