Ever since I read Gene Lyons and Joe Conason’s The Hunting of the President: The Ten-Year Campaign to Destroy Bill and Hillary Clinton, I have known that Arkansas is a weird place that is not easily understood by outsiders. Even as the Deep South has purged itself of Democrats, Arkansas has held on. Currently the governor, Lt. gov, both U.S. senators, and all but one congressperson are party members. Expecting Hillary Clinton to be on the ballot in 2008, the GOP didn’t even bother to challenge Sen. Mark Pryor. But then the skinny kid from Illinois came along and won the nomination. Suddenly, the formula for success came into doubt. Two out the three Democratic House representatives decided to retire, and Blanche Lincoln’s reelect numbers took a nosedive.
It’s easy to posit that the party is suffering because of resistance to a black standard-bearer in the White House, but it’s harder to understand why the Democratic Party was doing so well prior to Obama’s emergence. Arkansas was the hatchery of Bill Clinton’s New Democrat movement, although it is also home to the Blue Dogs. The Democrats thrived there because they were a different kind of Democrat. What’s hard to explain is why this strategy worked so well in Arkansas even as it proved disastrous throughout the remainder of the South.
Yet, one thing is certain. The party Establishment down there is close-knit and protects their own. Bill Halter was already a bit of an insurgent when he won the lieutenant governor’s race. But the Establishment obviously feels endangered, which is why a couple of congressmen opted to retire rather than try to win in this election cycle. It’s almost like they’re stuck in a tar pit. Someone may come along a thousand years from now and do an excavation. They’ll find the Democratic Arkansas Establishment frozen with their death masks. It’s almost ironic that someone in the White House chose to accuse progressives and unions of flushing their money down the drain in their effort to nominate Halter because the Democrats in Arkansas are already circling the drain.
Could Halter have changed things? Could he have saved the day? I don’t think so. It’s true that Blanche Lincoln made some missteps and angered most Arkansans at some point over the last year and a half. And it’s true that Halter would have brought a clean slate and some new energy into the fall race. But this primary split the party, perhaps fatally. Half of Arkansas Democrats are already considering reregistering as Republicans and the other half voted for the loser last night. The Establishment would rather lose the seat than lose control of the nominating process. The progressives won’t lift a finger to help the Establishment. Either way the election went last night, it looks to me like the party’s dominance is over.
So, was it worth it to invest in a challenge to Blanche Lincoln? Was it money well spent? I think the unions and progressives did the right thing. If we can’t get a vote on the Employee Free Choice Act when we have 60 senators then someone needs to be punished. And it was Blanche Lincoln who broke her promise to support the EFCA, making cloture impossible. She also broke her promise to support a public option, even going so far as to promise to filibuster one instead. She brought this challenge upon herself and it caused her tremendous pain. If she was going to stand with Republicans on key issues, there was little reason to lament the loss of the seat and, thus, little downside to taking a chance on a challenger. Besides, the polling said she was going to lose anyway.
I don’t think the message will be learned in Arkansas because they make a living down there by not accepting this kind of message. But the message will breakthrough in other places that saying one thing and doing the exact opposite has consequences.
Some history to remember (August 13, 2008):
There is no indication of a political connection to the murder but it came in the midst of the 2008 campaign.
The current chair of the Democratic Party of Arkansas is Todd Turner.
It is hard to say what change this made in the Arkansas Democratic Party’s effectiveness.
I doubt that had that much of an impact.
It’s a combination, in my opinion, of two things.
I mean folks in Arkansas just aren’t all that different culturally than people in Mississippi. So, the state party has a hard time supporting the national party when it is in power.
Arkansas = tar pit. That about says it all.
I blame the media for Halter’s defeat because for weeks they were saying that Lincoln was toast. People don’t like hearing that, and they rallied to Lincoln’s side. But what was great seeing is Ed Schultz traveling to Arkansas, expecting a Halter victory, and ended up with egg on his face. You can tell he was in shock, both him and Rachel Maddow. Now it’s time to pull for Blanche Lincoln. Let’s see if the progressives will actually do it.
they won’t. And, in fairness, Lincoln’s folks wouldn’t have supported Halter, either.
Well, Democrats now have a choice to make. do they want 50% of something, (Lincoln), or 100% of nothing, (Boozeman)
Hardly a message to energize voters.
Except Lincoln has a 0% chance of victory. Halter at least had something like a 30% chance. Supporting Lincoln NOW really WOULD be throwing money away.
What makes Halter more electable than Lincoln? I don’t like Lincoln, but at least she got the black vote.
Can you read a poll, son?
yes, now it’s time to pull for Blanche Lincoln, because if a republican wins arkansas, there goes the support for EFCA, a public option, and all sorts of progressive priorities.
oh wait, you mean blanche didn’t support that stuff either? Never mind.
Listening to voter comments on Cspan, there were enough Republicans who switched sides to vote for Lincoln to take on the sound of an organized campaign. The reason was always the same: she’d be easier to beat. Somewhere on Fox or the Net or the robocalls, that message was being pushed. I don’t know the state’s registration system, but apparently a lot of voters felt they could switch for the runoff without penalty.
Our broken electoral system at work yet again.
I don’t think the message will be learned in Arkansas because they make a living down there by not accepting this kind of message. But the message will breakthrough in other places that saying one thing and doing the exact opposite has consequences.
I hope you are right.
Right now though Obama looks like a possible one term President to me. The wave of excitement for him in 2008 won’t be there in 2012. Too much alienation of his base of support, too much compromising. I knew we were in trouble when Rahm was selected as his Chief of Staff.
His base came out last night–for Blanche Lincoln. Despite your exaggerated sense or importance, his base is African Americans, and they voted for Blanch Lincoln. And where the Black vote is decisive, we can and showed last night we will play the same games white progressives can. We’re going to stand with the President. Let the Democratic house divide and fall.
Any link to support that. This is a serious question, not an attack. I’d like to see the breakdown.
It’s pretty obvious that black voters are more faithful to Obama (and the Democratic Party in general) than white liberals. This isn’t news. The netroots was never the ‘base’.
Quite frankly ‘the base’ is similar to ‘real America’- a small group that thinks they’re the sh*t, but they’re not.
And if what you say is true, why did they? Just because The Big Dog came and stumped for her? Or they don’t care that she’s lied to them a lot? Do they not care that Lincoln has stabbed the President in the back repeatedly?
‘Stabbed in the back’ is a pretty dramatic statement. Lincoln and Halter are both blue dogs. The only difference between the two is that Halter supported a public option.
I guess you missed the statements Lincoln and Clinton made these past two weeks .. they did stab labor in the back
Did they take out knives? I didn’t see the photos. Don’t most Ark. union members vote Republican anyway?
Accept the loss for what it is. It’s not academic. To put it straight no chaser, some shit you just can’t fuck with. It’s like trying to explain to outsiders how Marion Barry could win in DC after emerging from jail for a crack cocaine conviction. No, allegiance to legendary politicians known mostly for their flaws doesnt’ make sense, but it is what it is. And if you choose to chase that proverbial windmill you’re going to get cut. Competing against Bill Clinton in Arkansas would be akin to challenging Teddy Kennedy in MA, the Daleys in Chicago, Huey Long in LA, hell, even George Wallace in AL. It might be the righteous thing to do, but you’re not going to win, not in votes anyway.
and I’m not trying to parrot RNC talking points. The corporate wing (Lincoln) went head to head with the labor-progressive wing (Halter) of the party and the corporatist won. The WH knows they need both sides firing on all cylinders to win in November. Presumably somebody in the WH is workign to put the pieces back together, but I’m not holding my breath.
In order for the GOP to really succeed in November they need Labor to sit on its hands, like they did in 94 after the NAFTA debacle. Given Rahm’s obsession with the missteps in Clinton’s first term on healthcare, presumably he’s at least learned this lesson as well that pissing off labor is a great way to guarantee defeat. Again, I’m not holding my breath since the NAFTA-labor angle of the 94 mid terms is a glaring ommission in the village conventional wisdom on the subject.
“Given Rahm’s obsession with the missteps in Clinton’s first term on healthcare, presumably he’s at least learned this lesson as well that pissing off labor is a great way to guarantee defeat.”
I don’t know if I agree with this. i’d bet my bottom dollar the anonymous senior white house official saying labor “flushed ten million dollars down the toilet” was rahm emmanuel.
You are right. After all, who called Democratic activists, “Fucking idiots” in the past year(or so)? Rahm hates the unions. Can it be any more obvious?
Of course Rahm is the ‘boogeyman’. Why take Politico’s bait? Ya’ll always take the MSM bait.
my point is that if the WH is really obsessed with not repeating 94 all over again, the “don’t piss off labor” part is pretty hard to miss. the reality is Obama won’t get another term without labor and progressives fighting hard for him, so all this stuff just strikes me as rank stupidity, regardless of whether you support Rahm or not. If Rahm made this remark, he should probably resign, and I’m not sayign that because of the fact that it shows he’s anti labor and anti progressive. That’s sort of obvious. Its because he’s dumb, needlessly picking fights with the base when screwing them over in backrooms would be perfectly doable. If he’s our guy who’s cutting these huge deals, I want my moneyback because he’s clearly not the brightest bulb in the room.
‘Progressives’ meaning white liberals who sit on blogs. They never had Obama’s back.
Having Rahm resign over a comment that he might not have even made….man, it’s hard to take ‘liberals’ seriously.
Not as hard to take seriously as somebody that thinks Obama or the Dems are going to win on the black vote. If white liberals didn’t have Obama’s back, who did? White wingnuts? I don’t know whose ax you’re trying to grind, but your loopy “analysis” is neither useful nor coherent.
Obviously if he didn’t say the remark then he shouldn’t resign. But there’s a good chance he did. And obviously if someone else at the WH can find a way to lessen the damage from this remark than its not a fireable offense. But in 94 we saw what happens when labor feels like its getting dissed by the WH and sits one out out of spite. I was just drawing the distinction between a WH that is obsessed with proving they learned the “don’t overreach or go to far left” lesson of 94, but seem oblivious to the other important lesson of “don’t piss off labor”
Again, not too controversial stuff. I made it clear that he should resign out of incompetence not because of his anti-labor agenda or any other ideological differences.
I don’t see Rahm as that dumb in that particular way. Plus, he’s usually willing to go on the record. This alleged statement is not really the problem. The damage was done by Obama and the Dem establishment backing a turncoat loser. They could have just stayed out of it and let Halter win. Now they’ve got the dirty old whore on their backs like a parasite they have to keep feeding. How they thought backing a corporate bagperson was the smart move in this climate is beyond me.
that she tapped into to beat Halter. That being said, the DNC and Obama should have cut her loose and made an example to future turncoats.
How would the GOP have dealt with a turncoat like Lincoln? History provides us with a delicious example: In 2000 Sen Bob Smith of NH ran for president as an independent, bashed the party and generally made an ass of himself. He was coaxed out of the race (which could have ended badly for everyone) with a committee chairmanship and then in 2002, the party establishment supported Sununu in the GOP primary, stabbing Sununu in the back right when he was desperate for the GOP establishment to fight for him. True gangsters, and Sununu went on to win the general against a well funded former governer, Jeanne Shaheen (who eventually won in the rematch in 2008). The GOP sent a powerful message to turncoats AND got a more electable candidate.
Anyway, if Rahm is supposed to be our Democratic machiavelli, the cutthroat guy who gets results, I want my money back.
Democratic President’s always have ‘turncoats’- it’s a big tent.
Democratic Presidents always have senators from their own party threatening to filibuster one of their main campaign promises? I value and respect dissent within the party and hope that Senators do vote their conscience on substantive votes. Procedural votes are the price of admission to the caucus, however. If you want to run with an “R” or an “I” next to your name, good luck to you.
rahm is happy to stick the shiv in anonymously.
BS. Healthcare, stimulus, a lot of mainstreet stuff that labor is supposedly ‘fighting’ for got passed. Sitting on hands? Puh-lease. Petty. Incredibly petty.
And then he did NAFTA and things sort of blew up. Are we approaching ’94 levels of labor apathy? Not yet. My only point was Obama needs to keep labor in the fold for the midterms. Smarter political people than me are tasked with doing that. All I’m saying is its dumb to openly alienate your base- not really controversial stuff so I’m surprised you’re calling BS.
The ‘base’ turned up for Lincoln last night.
The problem is that the message WON’T breakthrough in other places. If the establishment could they would silence each and every single progressive and union member in the party. They will see one thing:
They went up against them and Lost.
Their attitude? Fuck you. You lost. You’re nothing.
It doesn’t matter if the loss was 4 points or 40, a loss is all they will see.
Which means fighting primary campaigns will continue.
Union members aren’t necessarily progressive. Many vote Republican.
The main thing that liberals should takeaway from last night is that the black vote DOES matter.
And who was campaigning for Lincoln last week? .. Bill Clinton!! So enough with your nonsense already .. Clinton saved her bacon .. which is par for the course for the DLC
The black vote saved her bacon.
You’re killing me, kid. I don’t know what kind of division you’re trying to sow but you’re obviously new at this. Word to the wise: I can pretty much assure you that you will be ignored henceforth – there are enough of us hereabouts to contextualize the Black Vote, a poseur with an axe to grind is fairly obvious to all…
No surprise. White liberals always ignore black people.
I don’t know what site directed you here, but if think the white bloggers on this blog ignore black people there are plenty (all) of readers that I am sure will be willing to disabuse you of that notion.
Got to give him credit – he stayed on-message. It was an idiotic message, but he stayed on it with a tenacity that I’ve only seen from the GOP.
The takeaway:
Black voters matter. They put Lincoln over-the-top.
The media seems to be going heavy on the “Obama still has strong coattails” spin — that this is a win for Obama. Which strikes one as odd, considering their usual eagerness to minimize his effectiveness. But then you see the timebomb: Obama fought for her and now the stinking albatross is stuck to his coattails like pus. Obama and the Dems will have to put on a show of going all-in for her in November, wasting resources on a turncoat loser and further cementing their image as punching bags for every backstabbing piece of dirt that comes along regardless of party. And then losing miserably.
It’s getting hard to hold on to any of the optimism from 18 months ago. I still think Obama wants the right things, but does he know how to go after them? He could have stayed out of this primary. That might have changed the result. Instead he chose to violate the Chicago Rule: Don’t back no losers. I have to wonder if he’s as politically savvy as we all once thought.
I spent a lot of hours in the last two elections on the phone for MoveOn, mostly trying to get out the vote for distasteful Dems — the ones that led to the “veto proof majority”. I wonder if MoveOn and the rest of the coalition will bother next time. I know I won’t. I’m sick of being on the wrong side no matter which side I’m on. If progressives and labor in AR had any sense, they’d see that now is a perfect time to run a populist progressive for senator in Arkansas. If we have no power to create maybe we just have to settle for demonstrating our power to destroy. Coming in second ahead of Lincoln would deliver the lesson that our primary loss could not.
Halter wasn’t a progressive. He’s barely a populist.
Neither is Clinton. What’s your point? We could have had a candidate with some debt toward the left of the party and to the unions. Instead, thanks to Clinton and the Dem establishment, we got a corporate shill of the worst kind. And a loser to boot. It’s no wonder the best the Dems could do in all those decades was a Clinton.
Too many hopes pinned on Halter. ‘Progressives’ project too much.
Who wouldn’t have won the general in any case, which makes the whole exercise pointless and stupid. I admit it was fun to see Ed Schultz’s head (almost) explode.